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” Bhagavad-gita is the widely read theistic science summarized in the Gita-mahatmya Glorification of the Gita There it says that one should read Bhagavad-gita very scrutinizingly with the help of a person who is a devotee of Sri Krishna and try to understand it without personally motivated interpretations. The example of clear understanding is there in the Bhagavad-gita itself, in the way the teaching is understood by Arjuna, who heard the Gita directly from the Lord. If someone is fortunate enough to understand Bhagavad-gita in that line of disciplic succession, without motivated interpretation, then he surpasses all studies of Vedic wisdom, and all scriptures of the world. One will find in the Bhagavad-gita all that is contained in other scriptures, but the reader will also find thing's which are riot to be found elsewhere. That is the specific standard of the Gita. It is the perfect theistic science because it is directly spoken by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Sri Krishna.

Discussing and analysing bhagavad Gita

People are interested in Bhagavad Gita. They want to read the entire book and find some solace in it. Actually it has been introduced as a part of the famous Indian epic known as maha bharatha. Even then it is being considered as separate book by eminent scholars. I think if we want to read the entire book on the rate of one verse per day it will take more than two years to complete that task.

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So many commentaries were already written for Bagavad Gita by notable commentators includes:

1. Shankaracharya
2. Ramanuja
3. Madhvacharya
4. Abhinavagupta 
5. Anandagiri
6. Shridhara Swami
7. Nimbarka
8. Vallabha
9. Dyaneshwar
10. Bal Gangadhar Tilak 
11. Mahatma Gandhi,
12. Sri Aurobindo
13. Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan
14. Swami Vivekananda
15. Swami Sivananda
16. Paramahamsa Yogananda
17. A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
18. Swami Chinmayananda
19. Swami Sukabodhananda

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Swami Vivekananda, the follower of Sri Ramakrishna, was known for his commentaries on the four Yogas - Bhakti, Jnana, Karma and Raja Yoga. He drew from his knowledge of the Gita to expound on these Yogas.

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Before we get involved with the Bhagavad gita , we better go through the back ground of the works as the reason of it's development.

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We simply know that it has been told to Arjuna by Krishna in the battle field. Who is this Arjuna and why it has been told to him in such a situation?

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Great epic ‘Mahabharata' was fully centered on the Maha Bharatha war which continued for days. Currently we too hate the war. We shout for peace in this world and not to wage war. Similarly Arjuna too hated war at the time it was ready to be started. He realised that it is a sin to kill his own relations in the name of war. His chariot driver happened to be lord Krishna who insisted on the war to be carried on.

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Arjuna refused at this juncture, saying it is not proper to kill his own kith and kin. Krishna explained that this war is being waged to maintain Dharma forever. His explanation went for hours and it was the birth of Bhagavad Gita in the battle field insisting to continue the war.

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 Maha Bharatha was written by Great sage Vyasa, who is the grand father of our Arjuna. Original name of Vyasa also Krishna. He was born on an island in the middle of the river Ganges. His mother from the fishing community. His father was a renowned sage famous for his astrological and astronomical knowledge. When the father sage found a holy time gathering because of the planets position, he got the idea of having a child born at that time that will become more famous and serve the world spiritually.

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Sage parasara converted the boat woman instantly into a beautiful woman and named her as ‘Parimala ganthy' (fine aroma) from her original name ‘Machcha ganthy' (fishy smelling), who gave birth to a black coloured child. Hence his name ‘Krishna dvypayana' (black, born on an island.)

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Here you can see the identical name of Krishna had been used to identical children of black colour. They are the1. Lord Krishna, 2. Sage Vyasa 3. Draupathy, who became the wife of Arjuna and all other five pandavas.

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Vyasa's mother became the queen with the boon granted by the sage parasara. Her children born to the king had no children. She got her eldest son Vyasa to provide children on behalf of them. They are the children named Paandu and Dritharashtraa born to the queens. A further child was given to a lady attendant named vithura.

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Now we have a bit of the back ground for the Maha bharatha and the Bhagavad Gita, for the full details better go through the entire Maha Bharatha is the good way.

In short Bhagavad Gita shows the way to live a full life in this world and finally achieve wisdom. It insists on doing one's own duties without attachment. You just remain as a witness only. There are several paths to achieve wisdom as shown in Bhagavd gita but many people prefer the devotional as the easiest. This devotional part had been introduced in only one book before Bhagavad Gita but in Bhagavad Gita it is fully described for the first time.

We will discuss all these from here onwards.

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Dharma kshetre Kuru shetre samaveta yuyutsavah

mamakah Paandavaas caiva kim akurvata Sanjaya

Here is the transliteration of the first verse of the first chapter of the great Bhagavad Geetha.
it is not possible to give the sanskrit characters here.

Here the King Dhrutha Rashtra inquires his assistant about the war situation at the Kurukshetra. the king is blind.

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dhrutharashtra - same

uvacha - said

sanjaya - same

akurvata kim - what did

mamakah - my sons

yuyutsavah - desirous of battle

cha - and

pandavah - sons of pandu

eva - do after

samavetah - assembling

dharma kshetre - holy land of righteousness

kurukshetre - same

names have been described as same

these are the meanings of the sanskrit  words

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Dhrutharashtra said: O! Sanjaya, what did my sons desirous of battle and the sons of paandu do after assembling at the holy land of righteousness, which is kurukshetra?

Here is the english version of the sanskrit verse

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The word dharma-ksetra (a place where religious rituals are performed) is significant because, on the Battlefield of Kuruksetra, the Supreme Personality of Godhead was present on the side, of Arjuna. Dhrtarastra, the father of the Kurus, was highly doubtful about the possibility of his sons' ultimate victory. In his doubt, he inquired from his secretary Sanjaya, “What did my sons and the sons of Pandu do?” He was confident that both his sons and the sons of his younger brother Pandu were assembled in that Field of Kuruksetra for a determined engagement of the war. Still, his inquiry is significant. He did not want a compromise between the cousins and brothers, and he wanted to be sure of the fate of his sons on the battlefield. Because the battle was arranged to be fought at Kuruksetra, which is mentioned elsewhere in the Vedas as a place of worship-even for the denizens of heaven-Dhrtarastra became very fearful about the influence of the holy place on the outcome of the battle. He knew very well that this would influence Arjuna and the sons of Pandu favorably, because by nature they were all virtuous. Sanjaya was a student of Vyasa, and therefore, by the mercy of Vyasa, Sanjaya was able to envision the Battlefield of Kuruksetra even while he was in the room of Dhrtarastra and so, Dhrtarastra asked him about the situation on the battlefield.

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” Bhagavad-gita is the widely read theistic science summarized in the Gita-mahatmya Glorification of the Gita There it says that one should read Bhagavad-gita very scrutinizingly with the help of a person who is a devotee of Sri Krishna and try to understand it without personally motivated interpretations. The example of clear understanding is there in the Bhagavad-gita itself, in the way the teaching is understood by Arjuna, who heard the Gita directly from the Lord. If someone is fortunate enough to understand Bhagavad-gita in that line of disciplic succession, without motivated interpretation, then he surpasses all studies of Vedic wisdom, and all scriptures of the world. One will find in the Bhagavad-gita all that is contained in other scriptures, but the reader will also find thing's which are riot to be found elsewhere. That is the specific standard of the Gita. It is the perfect theistic science because it is directly spoken by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Lord Sri Krishna.

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“try to understand it without personally motivated interpretations”

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I agree with that Dave-
quite a “divien” comment1
Although I find it interesting -I am
looking for the applications in the now.

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Both the Pandavas and the sons of Dhrtarastra belong to the same family, but Dhrtarastra's mind is disclosed herein. He deliberately claimed only his sons as Kurus, and he separated the sons of Pandu from the family heritage. One can thus understand the specific position of Dhrtarastra in his relationship with his nephews, the sons of Pandu. As in the paddy field the unnecessary plants are taken out, so it is expected from the very beginning of these topics that in the religious field of Kuruksetra where the father of religion, Sri Krishna was present, the unwanted plants like Dhrtarastra's son Duryodhana and others would be wiped out and the thoroughly religious persons, headed by Yudhisthira, would be established by the Lord. This is the significance of the words dharma-ksetre and Kuruksetre, apart from their historical and Vedic importance. ”

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The topics discussed by Dhrtarastra and Sanjaya, as described in the Mahabharata, form the basic principle for this great philosophy. It is understood that this philosophy evolved on the Battlefield of Kuruksetra, which is a sacred place of pilgrimage from the immemorial time of the Vedic age. It was spoken by the Lord when He was present personally on this planet for the guidance of mankind.

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Among purifying forces I am the wind; among warriors, Rama. Of water creatures I am the crocodile, and of rivers I am the Ganges.

I am the beginning, middle, and end of creation. Of all the sciences I am the science of Self-knowledge, and I am logic in those who debate.

-Bhagavad Gita 10:31-32

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Sri Krishna: With your mind intent on me, Arjuna, discipline yourself with the practice of yoga. Depend on me completely. Listen, and I will dispel all your doubts; you will come to know me fully and be united with me.

I will give you both jnana and vijnana. When both these are realized, there is nothing more you need to know.

-Bhaghavad Gita 7:1-2

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That devotee who looks upon friend and foe with equal regard, who is not buoyed up by praise nor cast down by blame, alike in heat and cold, pleasure and pain, free from selfish attachments, the same in honor and dishonor, quiet, ever full, in harmony everywhere, firm in faith–such a one is dear to me.

-Bhagavad Gita 12:18-19

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As for those who seek the transcendental Reality, without name, without form, contemplating the Unmanifested, beyond the reach of thought and of feeling, with their senses subdued and mind serene and striving for the good of all beings, they too will verily come unto me.

-Bhagavad Gita

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As a man abandons worn-out clothes and acquires new ones, so when the body is worn out a new one is acquired by the Self, who lives within.

-Bhagavad Gita 2: 22

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Considering your dharma, you should not vacillate. For a warrior, nothing is higher than a war against evil. The warrior confronted with such a war should be pleased, Arjuna, for it comes as an open gate to heaven. But if you do not participate in this battle against evil, you will incur sin, violating your dharma and your honor.

-Bhagavad Gita 2:31-33

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Death means the attainment of heaven; victory means the enjoyment of the earth. Therefore, rise up…resolved to fight! Having made yourself alike in pain and pleasure, profit and loss, victory and defeat, engage in this great battle and you will be freed from sin.

-Bhagavad Gita 2:37-38

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Both renunciation of action and the selfless performance of action lead to the supreme goal. But the path of action is better than renunciation.

-Bhagavad Gita 5:2

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After many births the wise seek refuge in me, seeing me everywhere and in everything. Such great souls are very rare.

-Bhagavad Gita 7:19

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Behold, Arjuna, a million divine forms, with an infinite variety of color and shape. Behold the gods of the natural world, and many more wonders never revealed before. Behold the entire cosmos turning within my body, and the other things you desire to see.

But these things cannot be seen with your physical eyes; therefore I give you spiritual vision to perceive my majestic power.

-Bhagavad Gita 11:5-8

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As for those who seek the transcendental Reality, without name, without form, contemplating the Unmanifested, beyond the reach of thought and of feeling, with their senses subdued and mind serene and striving for the good of all beings, they too will verily come unto me.

-Bhagavad Gita 12:3-4

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As long as one has a body, one cannot renounce action altogether. True renunciation is giving up all desire for personal reward. Those who are attached to personal reward will reap the consequences of their actions: some pleasant, some mixed. But those who renounce every desire for personal reward go beyond the reach of karma.

-Bhagavad Gita 18:11-12

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Neither gods nor sages know my origin, for I am the source from which all the gods and sages come. Whoever knows me as the Lord of all creation, without birth or beginning, knows the truth and frees himself from all evil.

-Bhagavad Gita 10:2-3

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Pleasures conceived in the world of the senses have a beginning and an end and give birth to misery, Arjuna. The wise do not look for happiness in them. But those who overcome the impulses of lust and anger which arise in the body are made whole and live in joy. They find their joy, their rest, and their light completely within themselves. United with the Lord, they attain nirvana in Brahman.

-Bhagavad Gita 5:22-24

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Sometimes, because we were friends, I rashly said, “Oh, Krishna!” “Say, friend!”, casual, careless remarks. Whatever I may have said lightly, whether we were playing or resting, alone or in company, sitting together or eating, if it was disrespectful, forgive me for it, O Krishna. I did not know the greatness of your nature, unchanging and imperishable.

-Bhagavad-Gita 11:41-42

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In Bhagavad Gita (4.38), Lord Krishna says,

na hi jnanena sadrisham
pavitram iha vidyate
tat svayam yoga-samsiddhah
kalenatmani vindati

“In this world, there is nothing so sublime and pure as transcendental knowledge. Such knowledge is the mature fruit of all mysticism. And one who has become accomplished in the practice of devotional service enjoys this knowledge within himself in due course of time.”

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Those who know this truth, whose consciousness is unified, think always, “I am not the doer.” While seeing or hearing, touching or smelling; eating, moving about, or sleeping; breathing or speaking, letting go or holding on, even opening or closing the eyes, they understand that these are only the movements of the senses among sense objects.

-Bhagavad Gita 5:8-9

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When a person is devoted to something with complete faith, I unify his faith in that. Then, when his faith is completely unified, he gains the object of his devotion. In this way, every desire is fulfilled by me. Those whose understanding is small attain only transient satisfaction: those who worship the gods go to the gods. But my devotees come to me.

-Bhagavad Gita 7: 21-23

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Through lack of understanding, people believe that I, the Unmanifest, have entered into some form. They fail to realize my true nature, which transcends birth and death. Few see through the veil of maya. The world, deluded, does not know that I am without birth and changeless. I know everything about the past, the present, and the future, Arjuna; but there is no one who knows me completely.

-Bhagavad Gita 7:24-26

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But truly great souls seek my divine nature. They worship me with a one-pointed mind, having realized that I am the eternal source of all. Constantly striving, they make firm their resolve and worship me without wavering. Full of devotion, they sing my divine glory.

-Bhagavad Gita 9:13-14
 

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He who knows me as his own divine Self breaks through the belief that he is the body and is not reborn as a separate creature. Such a one is united with me. Delivered from selfish attachment, fear, and anger, filled with me, surrendering them selves to me, purified in the fire of my being, many have reached the state of unity in me.

-Bhagavad-Gita Gita 4:9-10

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He who shirks action does not attain freedom; no one can gain perfection by abstaining from work. Indeed, there is no one who rests for even an instant; every creature is driven to action by his own nature.

-Bhagavad Gita 3:4-5

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 This is a fine advice to be adopted during the time of death for anyone.

“Remembering me at the time of death, close down the doors of the senses and place the mind in the heart. Then, while absorbed in meditation, focus all energy upwards to the head. Repeating in this state the divine Name, the syllable Om that represents the changeless Brahman, you will go forth from the body and attain the supreme goal.”

-Bhagavad Gita 8:12-13

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Nirvana of Brahman, self realization and establishing  forever in the supreme state are all the same but stated in different terms.
“Healed of their sins and conflicts, working for the good of all beings, the holy sages attain nirvana in Brahman. Free from anger and selfish desire, unified in mind, those who follow the path of yoga realize the Self and are established forever in that supreme state.”

-Bhagavad Gita 5:25-26

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  Attending to their duties without any involvement

” The awakened sages call a person wise when all his undertakings are free from anxiety about results; all his selfish desires have been consumed in the fire of knowledge. The wise, ever satisfied, have abandoned all external supports. Their security is unaffected by the results of their action; even while acting, they really do nothing at all. Free from expectations and from all sense of possession, with mind and body firmly controlled by the Self, they do not incur sin by the performance of physical action. ”

-Bhagavad Gita 4:19-21

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Realize the supreme Lord

(At the time of death)

“The Lord is the supreme poet, the first cause, the sovereign ruler, subtler than the tiniest particle, the support of all, inconceivable, bright as the sun, beyond darkness. Remembering him in this way at the time of death, through devotion and the power of meditation, with your mind completely stilled and your concentration fixed in the center of the spiritual awareness between the eyebrows, you will realize the supreme Lord.”

-Bhagavad Gita 8:9-10

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“The six months of the northern path of the sun, the path of light, of fire, of day, of the bright fortnight, leads knowers of Brahman to the supreme goal. The six months of the southern path of the sun, the path of smoke, of night, of the dark fortnight, leads other souls to the light of the moon and rebirth.”

-Bhagavad Gita 8:24-25

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Better indeed is knowledge than mechanical practice. Better than knowledge is meditation. But better still is surrender of attachment to results, because there follows immediate peace.

-Bhagavad Gita 12:12
 

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“The Supreme Reality stands revealed in the consciousness of those who have conquered themselves. They live in peace, alike in cold and heat, pleasure and pain, praise and blame.'

-Bhagavad Gita 6:7

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The cold and the heat
The praise and the balme
But not the pleasure or pain ,
for me anyway ,yet.
Because although I can do the
peace within the pain thing ,
I confess to feelings of lonliness and
sometimes a longing for human contact.

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A poem by a poet, make lonliness into solitude, thereby achieve the spreme.

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The wisdom they have acquired in previous lives will be reawakened, Arjuna, and they will strive even harder for Self-realization. Indeed, they will be driven on by the strength of their past disciplines. Even one who inquires after the practice of meditation rises above those who simply perform rituals.
-Bhagavad Gita 6:43-44

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As the sun lights up the world, the Self dwelling in the field is the source of all light in the field. Those who, with the eye of wisdom, distinguish the field from its Knower and the way to freedom from the bondage of prakriti, attain the supreme goal.

-Bhagavad Gita 13:33-34

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Those who are deluded by the operation of the gunas become attached to the results of their action. Those who understand these truths should not unsettle the ignorant. Performing all actions for my sake completely absorbed in the Self, and without expectations, fight! - But stay free from the fever of the ego.
-Bhagavad Gita 3:29-30

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it is easy to be free of such fever ,
though i have not heard it called that before ,
i have observed it raging amongst too many others.

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There are medicines available for almost all kinds of fevers but not for this so far.

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no treatment except for a good hard dose of reality

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I was especially inspired and educated by the “Essays on the Gita” written by Sri Aurobindo in 1922. I read them first in 1986 and continue to be inspired and instructed by these great insights of founder of Integral Yoga who started as political revolutionary.

Thanks!

Albert

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Lot of thanks for the guidance.

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“Those who live in accordance with these divine laws without complaining, firmly established in faith, are released from karma. Those who violate these laws, criticizing and complaining, are utterly deluded, and are the cause of their own suffering.”
-Bhagavad Gita 3:31-32

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  remember me at the time of death

Those who remember me at the time of death will come to me. Do not doubt this. Whatever occupies the mind at the time of death determines the destination of the dying; always they will tend toward the state of being. Therefore, remember me at all times and fight on. With your heart and mind intent on me, you will surely come to me. When you make your mind one pointed through regular practice of meditation, you will find the supreme glory of the Lord.
-Bhagavad Gita 8:5-8

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lets things come and go as they

He is dear to me who runs not after the pleasant or away from the painful, grieves not, lusts not, but lets things come and go as they happen.

-Bhagavad Gita 12:17

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The Bhagavad Gita is universally regarded as the single most influential philosophical text shaping spiritual thought and life. Spoken by Lord Krishna to his devotee Arjuna, the Gita's seven hundred verses provide an ultimate guide to self-realization. It reveals the essential nature of man, his environment and his relationship with the Almighty, like no other work. The teaching of the Bhagavad Gita is said to free you from all sense of limitation.

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I (God) am easily attained by the person who always remembers me and is attached to nothing else.

-Bhagavad Gita 8:14

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Yet hazardous and slow is the path to the Unrevealed, difficult for physical man to tread. But they for whom I am the supreme goal, who do all work renouncing self for me and meditate on me with single-hearted devotion, these I will swiftly rescue from the fragment's cycle of birth and death, for their consciousness has entered into me.

-Bhagavad Gita 12:5-7

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Bhagavad-Gita As It Is

Of all editions of this immortal classic, this one by Swami Prabhupada, founder of ISKCON, conveys Lord Krishna's profound message as it is, with the original Sanskrit text, Roman transliteration, English equivalents, translation and elaborate purports. A good introduction and a glossary make it even handier!

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Under my watchful eye the laws of nature take their course. Thus is the world set in motion; thus the animate and inanimate are created.

-Bhagavad Gita 9:10

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VERSE IN SANSKRIT

Yada yada hi dharmasya
Glanir bhavati bharata
Abhyutthanam adharmasya
Tadatmanam srjamy aham
~ Bhagavad Gita (Chapter IV-7)

TRANSLATION

Whenever and wherever there is decay
of righteousness, O Bharata,
and a rise of unrighteousness
then I manifest myself!

or
Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice, O descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of irreligion at that time I descend myself.

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Bhagavad-Gita: Swami Prabhavananda

This is regarded as one of the best English translations of the Gita. Aldous Huxley provides a brilliant introduction to the 'Perennial Philosophy' that lies at the base of all major religions. Swami Prabhavananda and Christopher Isherwood translate the themes with élan.

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After many births the wise seek refuge in me, seeing me everywhere and in everything. Such great souls are very rare. There are others whose discrimination is misled by many desires. Following their own nature, they worship lower gods, practicing various rites.

-Bhagavad Gita 7:19-20
 

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The Teaching of the Bhagavad Gita: by Swami Dayananda

Without getting lost in a rigid verse-by-verse translation, Swami Dayananda plunges with great verve and energy into the central theme of the Gita, picking and choosing key verses to highlight its message. Sure to appeal to every modern mind.

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When you make your mind one-pointed through regular practice of meditation, you will find the supreme glory of the Lord.

-Bhagavad Gita 8:8

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The Gospel of Selfless Action:

The Gita According to Gandhi

In this translation and commentary on Arjuna's battlefield conversation with Krishna, presented to his followers at prayer meetings over a nine-month period in 1926, Gandhi addresses the concerns that most directly affect the spiritual lives of common people.

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As rivers flow into the ocean but cannot make the vast ocean overflow, so flow the streams of the sense-world into the sea of peace that is the sage. But this is not so with the desirer of desires.

-Bhagavad Gita 2:70

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Bhagavad Gita and Its Message:
by Aurobindo
Rishi Aurobindo is a master of Vedic philosophy and he wrote extensively on the Gita. In this commentary and exposition, he analyzes the causes of human problems, and how to achieve peace. His interpretation of the Gita is unmatched!

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Well -I think I am doing pretty good for a chick-
though I don't understand the WORD Gita????

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It is actually 'Geetha' in Sanskrit pronunciation, which means 'song'. So it actually means 'song of the God'. There are several other 'Geethas' but this one got more prominence.

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Those who abstain from action while allowing the mind to dwell on sensual pleasure can not be called sincere spiritual aspirants. But they excel who control their senses through the mind, using them for selfless service.

-Bhagavad Gita 3:6-7

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Maharishi Mahesh Yogi on the Bhagavad-Gita

Maharishi's translation and commentary on the first six chapters of the Bhagavad-Gita is meant to be “a complete guide to practical life that is needed to raise the consciousness of man to the highest possible level.” A useful pocket edition!

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He alone sees truly who sees the Lord the same in every creature, who sees the Deathless in the hearts of all that die. Seeing the same Lord everywhere, he does not harm himself or others. Thus he attains the supreme goal.

-Bhagavad Gita 13: 27-28

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Bhagavad Gita (Penguin Classics)
This edition by Juan Mascaro, a sensitive Sanskrit scholar, is aimed “to give, without notes or commentary, the spiritual message of the Bhagavad Gita in pure English.” A good translation that speaks clearly to the first-time reader.

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In this world there are two orders of being: the perishable, separate creature and the changeless spirit. But beyond these there is another, the supreme Self, the eternal Lord, who enters into the entire cosmos and supports it from within.

-Bhagavad Gita 15:16-17

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The Bhagavad Gita: Eknath Easwaran
A translation by an author who thinks the Gita is “a handbook for self-realization and a guide to action” that “offers something to every seeker after God, of whatever temperament, by whatever path. The reason for this universal appeal is that it is basically practical.”

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The Bhagavad Gita Translated by Edwin Arnold [1885]

The Bhagavad Gita is technically part of Book 6 of the Mahabharata, although it is known to be a later accretion to the saga, which stands on its own merits. It is a dialog between the God Krishna and the hero Arjuna, taking place in a timeless moment on the battlefield before the climactic struggle between good and evil. The Gita (which can be found in hotel bedstands throughout India) is a classic summary of the core beliefs of Hinduism. It has had a significant influence far beyond Hinduism. Robert Oppenheimer apocryphically recited the verse (from Chapter 11) 'I [have become] Death, Destroyer of Worlds”, just before the first test of the atom bomb, which ironically has a much different meaning in context.

This has now been cross-referenced with the Sanskrit text.

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I feel very happy tocome across this. I never expcted someting like this. I wish to congatulate you for this. I wish , you will carry on this forever.

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To those steadfast in love and devotion I give spiritual wisdom, so that they may come to me. Out of compassion I destroy the darkness of their ignorance. From within them I light the lamp of wisdom and dispel all darkness from their lives.

-Bhagavad Gita 10:10-11

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The Bhagavad Gita : A Walkthrough for Westerners
Translator Jack Hawley uses everyday prose to walk the Western reader through the difficult concepts of the Gita, covering a wide range of topics, from healing inner pain to celebrating life. Engaging even for the cursory reader!

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Nearly two hundred years ago the first English translation of the Bhagavad-Gita was issued in London. This work by the distinguished Orientalist, Sir Charles Wilkins, was published under the authority of the Court of Directors of the East India Company of which he was Senior Merchant, at the recommendation of Warren Hastings, then Governor General of India. The latter during his tenure of office was indefatigable in encouraging all public servants to master the native languages, including Sanskrit, in order that they might better understand the sacred literature of the Hindus.

James A. Long

Pasadena, California, June 21, 1969

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“Wherever is Krishna, the Master of Yoga, wherever is Partha, the archer, assured are there glory, victory and prosperity, and there also is the immutable Law of Right.”

- Sri Aurobindo's Bhagavat Gita: Chapter: Xviii: Renunciation and Moksha: verse: 78.

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Our Most Dear Friend: Bhagavad-Gita for Children
This unique version by Jean Griesser employs a simple story line, coupled with photographic montages and colorful paintings to illustrate the concepts of the Gita for children above 4.
A great way to introduce your children to the eternal values and virtues.

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You and I have passed through many births,

Arjuna. You have forgotten, but I remember them all.

My true being is unborn and changeless.

I am the Lord who dwells in every creature.

Through the power of my own maya,

I manifest myself in a finite form.

-Bhagavad Gita 4:5-6

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Observing the Armies on the Battlefield of Kuruksetra - THE DESPONDENCY OF ARJUNA

As the opposing armies stand poised for battle, Arjuna, the mighty warrior, sees his intimate relatives, teachers and friends in both armies ready to fight and sacrifice their lives. Overcome by grief and pity, Arjuna fails in strength, his mind becomes bewildered, and he gives up his determination to fight. -  Bhagavad Gita : Chapter 1(DLS)

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By loving me he comes to know me truly; then he knows my glory and enters into my boundless being. All his acts are performed in my service, and through my grace he wins eternal life.

-Bhagavad Gita 18:55-56

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CHAPTER 2.

Contents of the Gita Summarized - THE YOGA OF KNOWLEDGE

Arjuna submits to Lord Krishna as His disciple, and Krishna begins His teachings to Arjuna by explaining the fundamental distinction between the temporary material body and the eternal spirit soul. The Lord explains the process of transmigration, the nature of selfless service to the Supreme and the characteristics of a self-realized person.

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CHAPTER 3.

Karma-yoga - THE YOGA OF ACTION

Everyone must engage in some sort of activity in this material world. But actions can either bind one to this world or liberate one from it. By acting for the pleasure of the Supreme, without selfish motives, one can be liberated from the law of karma (action and reaction) and attain transcendental knowledge of the self and the Supreme.

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CHAPTER 4.

Transcendental Knowledge - THE YOGA OF RENUNCIATION OF ACTION IN KNOWLEDGE

Transcendental knowledge – the spiritual knowledge of the soul, of God, and of their relationship – is both purifying and liberating. Such knowledge is the fruit of selfless devotional action (karma-yoga). The Lord explains the remote history of the Gita, the purpose and significance of His periodic descents to the material world, and the necessity of approaching a guru, a realized teacher.

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CHAPTER 5.

Karma-yoga – Action in Krishna Consciousness - THE YOGA OF ACTION WITH RENUNCIATION

Outwardly performing all actions but inwardly renouncing their fruits, the wise man, purified by the fire of transcendental knowledge, attains peace, detachment, forbearance, spiritual vision and bliss.

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CHAPTER 6.

Dhyana-yoga - THE YOGA OF MEDITATION

Astanga-yoga, a mechanical meditative practice, controls the mind and senses and focuses concentration on Paramatma (the Supersoul, the form of the Lord situated in the heart). This practice culminates in samadhi, full consciousness of the Supreme.

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CHAPTER 7.

Knowledge of the Absolute - THE YOGA OF KNOWLEDGE AND REALIZATION

Lord Krishna is the Supreme Truth, the supreme cause and sustaining force of everything, both material and spiritual. Advanced souls surrender unto Him in devotion, whereas impious souls divert their minds to other objects of worship.

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Delusion arises from the duality of attraction and aversion, Arjuna; every creature is deluded by these from birth. But those who have freed themselves from all wrongdoing are firmly established in worship of me. Their actions are pure, and they are free from the delusion caused by the pairs of opposites.

-Bhagavad Gita 7:27-28

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For aspirants who want to climb the mountain of spiritual awareness, the path is selfless work; for those who have ascended to yoga the path is stillness and peace. When a person has freed himself from attachment to the results of work, and from desires for the enjoyment of sense objects, he ascends to the unitive state.

-Bhagavad Gita 6:3-4

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The Bhagavad Gita is one of the world-scriptures today. It guides the lives of people all over the world. Mahatma Gandhi regarded it as the “Mother”, to whom the children (humanity) turned when in distress. Sri Swami Sivananda wants us to study daily at least one discourse of the scripture, so that its great lessons are ever fresh in our memory. - DLS

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CHAPTER 8.

Attaining the Supreme - THE YOGA OF IMPERISHABLE BRAHMAN

By remembering Lord Krishna in devotion throughout one's life, and especially at the time of death, one can attain to His supreme abode, beyond the material world.

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CHAPTER 9.

The Most Confidential Knowledge - THE YOGA OF SOVEREIGN SCIENCE AND SOVEREIGN SECRET

Lord Krishna is the Supreme Godhead and the supreme object of worship. The soul is eternally related to Him through transcendental devotional service (bhakti). By reviving one's pure devotion one returns to Krishna in the spiritual realm.

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CHAPTER 10.

The Opulence of the Absolute - THE YOGA OF DIVINE MANIFESTATION

All wondrous phenomena showing power, beauty, grandeur or sublimity, either in the material world or in the spiritual, are but partial manifestations of Krishna's divine energies and opulence. As the supreme cause of all causes and the support and essence of everything, Krishna is the supreme object of worship for all beings.

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CHAPTER 11.

The Universal Form - THE YOGA OF THE VISION OF THE COSMIC FORM

Lord Krishna grants Arjuna divine vision and reveals His spectacular unlimited form as the cosmic universe. Thus He conclusively establishes His divinity. Krishna explains that His own all-beautiful humanlike form is the original form of Godhead. One can perceive this form only by pure devotional service.

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I rejoice in seeing you as you have never been seen before, yet I am filled with fear by this vision of you as the abode of the universe. Please let me see you again as the shining God of gods.

-Bhagavad Gita 11:45

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Self-important, obstinate, swept away by the pride of wealth, they ostentatiously perform sacrifices without any regard for their purpose. Egotistical, violent, arrogant, lustful, angry, envious of everyone, they abuse my presence within their own bodies and in the bodies of others.

-Bhagavad Gita 16:13-18

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CHAPTER 12.

Devotional Service - THE YOGA OF DEVOTION

Bhakti-yoga, pure devotional service to Lord Krishna, is the highest and most expedient means for attaining pure love for Krishna, which is the highest end of spiritual existence. Those who follow this supreme path develop divine qualities.

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Honor and cherish the devas as they honor and cherish you; through this honor and love you will attain the supreme good. All human desires are fulfilled by the devas, who are pleased by selfless service. But anyone who enjoys the things given by the devas without offering selfless acts in return is a thief.

-Bhagavad Gita 3:11-12

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Reshape yourself through the power of your will; never let yourself be degraded by self-will. The will is the only friend of the Self, and the will is the only enemy of the Self.

-Bhagavad Gita 6:5

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I am the power of discrimination in those who are intelligent, and the glory of the noble. In those who are strong, I am strength, free from passion and selfish attachment. I am desire itself, if that desire is in harmony with the purpose of life.

-Bhagavad Gita 7:10-11

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CHAPTER 13.

Nature, the Enjoyer, and Consciousness - THE YOGA OF DISCRIMINATION OF THE KSHETRA AND KSHETRAJNA

One who understands the difference between the body, the soul and the Supersoul beyond them both attains liberation from this material world.

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CHAPTER 14.

The Three Modes Of Material Nature - THE YOGA OF THE DIVISION OF THE THREE GUNAS

All embodied souls are under the control of the three modes, or qualities, of material nature: goodness, passion and ignorance. Lord Krishna explains what these modes are, how they act upon us, how one transcends them, and the symptoms of one who has attained the transcendental stage.

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Sanmugan,

I continue to be inspired especially by comments of Vivekananda an Sri Aurobindo.

B. Gita is one leading source of capturing life for me in toto.

Thanks for your ongoing presentation of ancient scriptures.

Albert

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Thanks a lot for reminding. I just continue this for reminding my self and all the others interested in these. Recently my son got interested in Bhagavad gita and disscussing with me about the verses,

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Here is my most humble token of gratitude to you for this thread :

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Thank you so much for the discussion on Bhagwad Gita

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Both submissions are more powerful than the ordinary ones. In fact , I started this by chance. A friend of mine in Gaia requested me to teach Bhagavad gita . I replied that I am not in a position to do so. Then I thought this way all of us can discuss on Bhagavad gita , which will be far more better. Actually we need not go through the entire book, just select a verse suitable  acccording to our preference and practice it in the life. That would be more than enough. Once we practice, all the scriptures of this world can be easily understood without going thro them. 

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God has no form except the light. People who died and returned back to life have issued statement like such. Ramalinga Vallalar of south India was a saint and his body turned into light , it was so brilliant , others were unable to look at him. He used to cver his entire body with a cloth except face,  hands and feet. Every one of us have the inner light. It is our duty to practice to merge with that light, 

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CHAPTER 15.

The Yoga of the Supreme Person - THE YOGA OF THE SUPREME SELF

The ultimate purpose of Vedic knowledge is to detach oneself from the entanglement of the material world and to understand Lord Krishna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead. One who understands Krishna's supreme identity surrenders unto Him and engages in His devotional service.

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CHAPTER 16.

The Divine And Demoniac Natures - THE YOGA OF DIVISION BETWEEN THE DIVINE AND THE DEMONIACAL

Those who possess demoniac qualities and who live whimsically, without following the regulations of scripture, attain lower births and further material bondage. But those who possess divine qualities and live regulated lives, abiding by scriptural authority, gradually attain spiritual perfection.

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My highest nature, the imperishable Brahman, gives every
creature its existence and lives in every creature as the adhyatma. My action
is creation and the bringing forth of creatures. The adhiyajna, the supreme
sacrifice, is made to me as the Lord within you.
-Bhagavad Gita 8:3-4
Excerpted from The Bhagavad Gita, translated by Eknath
Easwaran, copyright 1985. Reprinted with permission from Nilgiri Press,
www.nilgiri.org. To order the book, please call 1-800-475-2369.

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Bhagavad Gita with Sankara Bhashya
Translated by Swami Gambhirananda

Presented here is the Bhagavad Gita with the commentary of Sri Adi Sankaracharya translated by Swami Gambhirananda.
This is one of the most important and revered works of Sri Sankaracharya along with his commentaries on Brahma-Sutras
and Upanishads. Together called as “Prastana Traya” bhashya, these commentaries by Sankaracharya forms the central basis
for the Advaita philosophy that he propounded.
http://www.sankaracharya.org/gita_bhashya.php

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What is action and what is inaction? This question has confused the greatest sages. I will give you the secret of the action, with which you can free yourself from bondage. The true nature of action is difficult to grasp. You must understand what is action and what is inaction, and what kind of action should be avoided.

The wise see that there is action in the midst of inaction and inaction in the midst of action. Their consciousness is unified, and every act is done with complete awareness.

-Bhagavad Gita 4:16-17

Excerpted from The Bhagavad Gita, translated by Eknath Easwaran, copyright 1985. Reprinted with permission from Nilgiri Press, www.nilgiri.org. To order the book, please call 1-800-475-2369.

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As rivers flow into the ocean but cannot make the vast ocean
overflow, so flow the streams of the sense-world into the sea of peace that is
the sage. But this is not so with the desirer of desires.-Bhagavad Gita 2:70
Excerpted from The Bhagavad Gita, translated by Eknath
Easwaran, copyright 1985. Reprinted with permission from Nilgiri Press,
www.nilgiri.org. To order the book, please call 1-800-475-2369.

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The infinite joy of touching Brahman is easily attained by
those who are free from the burden of evil and established within themselves.
They see the Self in every creature and all creation in the Self. With
consciousness unified through meditation, they see everything with an equal
eye. -Bhagavad Gita 6:28-29
Excerpted from The Bhagavad Gita, translated by Eknath
Easwaran, copyright 1985. Reprinted with permission from Nilgiri Press,
www.nilgiri.org. To order the book, please call 1-800-475-2369.

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I (God) am easily attained by the person who always
remembers me and is attached to nothing else.
 
-Bhagavad Gita 8:14
 
Excerpted from The Bhagavad Gita, translated by Eknath
Easwaran, copyright 1985. Reprinted with permission from Nilgiri Press,
www.nilgiri.org. To order the book, please call 1-800-475-2369.

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You have the right to work, but never to the fruit of work. You should never engage in action for the sake of reward, nor should you long for inaction. Perform work in this world…as a man established…

- Bhagavad Gita 2:47-48

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When you keep thinking about sense objects, attachment comes. Attachment breeds desire, the lust of possession that burns to anger. Anger clouds the judgment; you can no longer learn from past. - Bhagavad Gita 2:62-65

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Every selfless act…is born from Brahman, the eternal, infinite Godhead. He is present in every act of service.

- Bhagavad Gita 3:15

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Sri Krishna: With your mind intent on me, Arjuna, discipline yourself with the practice of yoga. Depend on me completely. Listen, and I will dispel all your doubts; you will come to know me fully. - Bhaghavad Gita 7:1-2

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The process of offering is Brahman; that which is offered is Brahman. Brahman offers the sacrifice in the fire of Brahman. Brahman is attained by those who see Brahman in every action.

-Bhagavad Gita 4:24

Excerpted from The Bhagavad Gita, translated by Eknath Easwaran,  www.nilgiri.org. 

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I pervade the entire universe in my unmanifested form. All creatures find their existence in me, but I am not limited by them. Behold my divine mystery!

- Bhagavad Gita 9:4-5

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Those who follow the path of service, who have completely purified themselves and conquered their senses and self-will, see the Self in all creatures and are untouched by any activity they perform.

- Bhagavad Gita 5:7

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Perfect renunciation is difficult to attain without performing action. But the wise, following the path of selfless service, quickly reach the Brahman. - Bhagavad Gita 5:6  

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When you make your mind one-pointed through regular practice of meditation, you will find the supreme glory of the Lord.

- Bhagavad Gita 8:8

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Even if you have already read the Gita I think you will find this information interesting. Bhagavad Gita is an amazing book. Even if you were to read the entire book every day of your life, every day you will still find new inspiration in it.

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Firstly I would like to offer my respectful obeisances to my spiritual master,because without the knowledge he has most mercifully given us I would still be completely in darkness as far as spiritual knowledge is concerned. It is only because of his mercy that I can say anything of value.

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Bhagavad Gita contains the essence of all spiritual knowledge spoken by the Supreme Personality of Godhead Krishna. Because Bhagavad Gita is spoken by the Supreme Personality of Godhead, one need not read any other spiritual literature. One need only regularly and attentively hear and read Bhagavad Gita.

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At the present time mankind is so absorbed with day-to-day activities related to simply surviving in this world that he does not have the time to read all the Vedic literatures. But that is not necessary, this one book Bhagavad Gita is sufficient.

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Bhagavad Gita appears within the Mahabharata. Mahabharata means the “the history of Greater India.” So the conversation we hear between Krishna and Arjuna actually happened. It is history. And if you would like to understand everything that happened before and after this conversation, that is available also, in the Mahabharata. However Bhagavad Gita is the very essence, the very nectar of the Mahabharata. So simply studying the Gita is sufficient.

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What is the spirit of Bhagavad Gita? Arjuna was the first student of the Gita, so we can understand the spirit of the Gita by seeing how Arjuna relates to Krishna, how he accepts Krishna and the instructions given by Krishna.

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Arjuna accepts Krishna as the Supreme Personality and he gives evidence to that also, by saying that all the great authorities in the past also accepted Krishna as the Supreme Personality and Krishna also establishes Himself as such in the Gita. Therefore we should take Bhagavad-gita in this spirit. Understand it as Arjuna understood it from Krishna.

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THE GITA Jayanti, or the birthday of the Bhagavad Gita, is celebrated throughout India by all the admirers and lovers of this most sacred scripture on the eleventh day (Ekadashi) of the bright half of the month of Margaseersha (December-January), according to the Hindu almanac. It was on this day that Sanjaya narrated to King Dhritarashtra the dialogue between Sri Krishna and Arjuna, and thus made the glorious teachings of the Lord available to us, and to people of the world, for all time.

The Gita Jayanti marks one of the greatest days in the history of mankind. Nearly six thousand years ago on that day a dazzling flash of brilliant light lit up the firmament of human civilization. That flash, that marvellous spiritual effulgence, was the message of the Bhagavad Gita, given by the Lord Himself on the battlefield of Kurukshetra. Unlike ordinary flashes of light which die away after a split-second, this brilliant flash of that memorable day has continued to shine through the centuries, and even now illumines the path of humanity on its onward march to perfection.

The Gita is the most beautiful and the only truly philosophical song. It contains sublime lessons on wisdom and philosophy. It is the “Song Celestial”. It is the universal gospel. It contains the message of life that appeals to all, irrespective of race, creed, age or religion.

http://www.divyajivan.org/bhagawad_gita/index.htm