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Foreign policy questions

Peggy J [no longer around] said Nov 3, 2008, 9:52 AM:

 

Albert said Sep 12, 9:31 PM:

As European I am especially interested in future foreign policy Obama and his government will initiate.

What about:

Europe,
Caucasus,
Mideast,
BRIC Countries

Who will be his core advisors and what can be said right now already about programmatic intentions.

Are there papers avaialable?

Best,

Albert

  Albert  : ~

Re: Foreign policy questions

Albert said Nov 6, 2008, 7:06 AM:

 

See this synopsis from SPIEGEL ONLINE. After Barack Obama was elected now:



OBAMA'S GLOBAL CHALLENGE

 A Crash Course for the New President


Barack Obama had hardly been confirmed as the winner in the US presidential election before the first provocation arrived – Russia's announcement of new missile deployment plans. It is clear that the new president will have little time to hone his skills as a global politician. By Claus Christian Malzahn more… [

 Forum 
] SPIEGEL-NRC Handelsblad Live Chat: Will Life Be Better after Bush?
 Good Morning, Mr. President: What Europe Wants from Obama
 From Russia with Love: Rockets and Best Wishes for Obama
The World Reacts to Obama's Victory: Global Leaders Hope for American Cooperation

  Keith : Gentle Soul

Re: Foreign policy questions

Keith said Nov 6, 2008, 3:41 PM:

 


Let us not forget that we are still under a Republican administration till around mid-day January 20th.

I do suspect this was done while the US was otherwise “distracted”.  But from what I'm reading and my feelings are that this is more a repudiation of Bush and the last eight years of his disastrous administration than a “test” for President-Elect Obama.

  Albert  : ~

Re: Foreign policy questions

Albert said Nov 9, 2008, 11:49 PM:

 

Agreed.

  Michael : catalyst-producer

Re: Foreign policy questions

Michael said Nov 23, 2008, 2:41 AM:

 

Agreed indeed … BUT in the context of Barack Obama's selection of Hilary Clinton as Secretary of State elect,  IT IS NOW Barack Obama's first ACTION of RESPONSIBILITY, during the transition period, to DO a great deal more to move his foriegn policy agenda forward, by collectively utilising ALL the RIGHT CONNECTIONS between Bill Clinton's and Tony Blair's “charity set”, as well as Don Beck's consultancy group, to provide Hilary Clinton & Cherie Blair with a focus to collaborate with Julia Hausermann to bring to the attention of The Peoples Republic of China, their avowed intent to come in line with the objectives of Rights and Humanities Priciples of Responsibility.

Perhaps THREE WOMEN V The PRC will suffice to DO THE JOB ?

  Albert  : ~

Re: Foreign policy questions

Albert said Nov 23, 2008, 2:46 AM:

 

Michael:

100 Perecent d“accord!


3Cheers to UK Wisdom and Genius on Gaia.)


Albert

  Michael : catalyst-producer

Re: Foreign policy questions

Michael said Nov 23, 2008, 2:53 AM:

 

I THANK YOU KIND SIR, with all humility, for your support in THIS matter.

michael

  Albert  : ~

Re: Foreign policy questions

Albert said Nov 23, 2008, 9:36 AM:

 

As we have elections in 2009 in UK and Germany we can now focus on developing momentum for emerging new European leadership.

This Leadership is abolutely necessary in power, vision, leverage, strategic imagination and valaues based change for Europe as it is for the world in toto.

We cannot leave it to chosen leaders in poltics.

Citizen Power at the cutting edge is now a historic call to push Europe to new frontiers of its evolution.

Overcoming the very bad Venus/Mars analogies between US and Europe.

  Michael : catalyst-producer

Re: Foreign policy questions

Michael said Nov 24, 2008, 12:48 AM:

 

Patience IS indeed a virtue but there comes a time in the moment by moment  journey of life, when the RESPONSIBLE ACTION of the people has to be considered rather than the perspective of responsible action adopted by our “glorious leaders”.

  Albert  : ~

Re: Foreign policy questions

Albert said Nov 24, 2008, 1:02 AM:

 

And this RESPONSIBLE ACTION is multi layered. No size fits all.

The more integrated in all complexity this action is the more impact.

The more sustainability.


The more global relevance.

 

Re: Foreign policy questions

cHAngeL [no longer around] said Nov 25, 2008, 5:14 AM:

 

The layer in politics that is frequently forgotten can be built into the nest.
 
The egg of hope, remains…

Children's involvement:

When the Obama administration adds a children's ambassador to it's cabinet,  and a child representative to advise that ambassador, it will be just about perfect. The children will inherit this earth and the peace movement they deserve should be created and started by them with a song sung in every language all over the world.

Time for a children's UN.

Blue-Green Egg

Together children of the sapphire sea,                  
Feel  the love, with dolphin glee.
Bring the children water now,
Mast of hope, and peaceful bow.

Oh-oh, here we go 
Oh- oh here we go

Together children tears no cry,                            
Bless-ed trail one lullabye.
Clean air, clouds, a piscis tale,
Message in blue bottles sail.

Oh - oh here we go
Oh - oh here we go.

Together children of time and sand,                   
Turtle dance and all hold hands.
Bring the children food to eat,
Loving harvest waving wheat.

Oh - oh here we go
Oh - oh here we go.

Together children of colors all,                               
Stand united rainbow call.
Kindness in our hearts survive,
Generations now one tribe.

Oh - oh here we go
Oh - oh here we go.

Together children of  whispering moon,           
Listen, hear, and whales sing soon.
Hawks, dragon-flies and all,
Nourish blue-green egg so small.

Oh -oh here we go
Oh -oh here we go.

Together children of the butterfly                                                
Share the wisdom all can try.
Wolf howls children we are loved,
Mittens on our hands the gloves.

Oh -oh here we go
Oh -oh here we go

Together children of kosmic wind,                                   
Bring the children wellness in,
Many wheels and many ways,
Fleur de leis in spring will sway.

Oh -oh here we go
Oh-oh here we go.

Together children of  lessons learned
Great bear join the dance re turn.                                       
Bring the children blossoms, doves.
Whale and dolphin anchor love.

o-o here we go
o-o here we go.

Peaceful, whisper blow…… (child toots native american flute)



Jane H. Lake  11/11/2008

  Michael : catalyst-producer

Re: Foreign policy questions

Michael said Nov 25, 2008, 2:35 PM:

 

In the light of Janie's comment perhaps the children's ambassador should be Dr. Suzuki. She could then become “the fourth woman” to join with Hilary Clinton, Cherie Blair and Julia Hauserman, to be selected by Barack Obama, with George Bush's blessing if appropriate, as envoys to speak with the Peoples Republic of China about the Tibet issue.

A child representative to advise these ambassadors, would indeed be perfect and in accordance with the same values of responsible ACTION requested, of our global leaders, by Severin Suzuki in her address to the 1992 Rio Earth Summit.

 

Re: Foreign policy questions

cHAngeL [no longer around] said Nov 25, 2008, 5:25 PM:

 

Brilliant idea Michael. I so admire her.

  Michael : catalyst-producer

Re: Foreign policy questions

Michael said Nov 26, 2008, 1:14 AM:

 

LET US ALL hope and pray that this particular IDEA will get an airing at the highest levels of the transitional Obama Camp, as well as some RESPONSIBLE ACTION in response.

  Keith : Gentle Soul

Re: Foreign policy questions

Keith said Nov 26, 2008, 4:10 PM:

 

Sorry … sorry … straying a bit here …

If this doesn't help with Foreign Policy … I don't know what will …

In an effort to do what is right, to be the change, to demonstrate to his two daughters and to the rest of the world that we are, in fact, who we've been waiting for … President-Elect Obama and the new First Family …

Made a surprise visit on Thanksgiving Eve to a local food bank on the South Side of Chicago.

  Michael : catalyst-producer

Re: Foreign policy questions

Michael said Nov 29, 2008, 2:14 AM:

 

IN the context of Obama's team apparently taking on a hawkish attitude to the world, WE MUST continue to remember Obama's words …

What we are going to do is combine experience with fresh thinking

as well as David Axelrod's recent confirmation that …

Mr. Obama was NOT looking for people to give him a vision. He's going to put together an administration of people who can effectuate his vision

WE must take cogniscence of an appropriately applicable understanding of how important the acknowledgement of the concepts of  Spiral Dynamics Integral are !

  Albert  : ~

Re: Foreign policy questions

Albert said Nov 29, 2008, 2:21 AM:

 

Exactly!

Executing a vision in the midst of burning fire is ONE part of the real challenge.

Not for the fainthearted…..

We must do the same job. No matter what our talents, amount ot accountibility, responsibiltiy and capability is.

Its not about dreaming about singularity and 2012 and Maya Calendar..

Its about ACTION NOW!

  Keith : Gentle Soul

Re: Foreign policy questions

Keith said Nov 29, 2008, 12:05 PM:

 

I suppose my addition above has to do more with Foreign Relations than with Policy, very indirectly of course.  But felt it important to demonstrate the type of individual we have chosen as our next leader.  Very important.  He is not fiddling while Rome burns.  This is a “roll up the sleeves and find something helpful to accomplish” soul.

One of our former presidents, Teddy Roosevelt, is famously quoted that the US [Foreign Policy] should be ”Speak softly and carry a big stick”, with the phrase originally coming from West Africa.  The US has used this philosophy over the ensuing years time and time again.

Foreign Policy of the present US administration (and perhaps several previous administrations as well) utilizes Preemptive War or Preemptive Strike, i.e., striking an enemy in anticipation of a future conflict or waging war to gain strategic advantage.

From a purely materialistic perspective, this makes sense.  Global oil reserves dwindling?  No problem!!!!  Simply take over an oil-rich nation!!! 

There are problems with this policy, however, not the least being that on a gut level … it simply feels “wrong”.  Then there are the legal ramifications

On a practical, day-to-day level, the policy has been found to be polarizing

… “The Bush doctrine is angry, irrational, immoral, and merciless.”

And it does not take a brain surgeon to see what kind of atmosphere this type of doctrine engenders …

    The culture of fear is not a spontaneous reaction by the public to a truly dangerous world. The worldwide anthrax panic sparked by a handful of anthrax-related deaths in America shortly after 9/11 was not caused by a genuine and widespread mortal danger facing US and European citizens. Our propensity to panic about everything from child abductions to mobile phones does not come from the fact that modern life contains more risks than ever before - on the level of everyday reality, the opposite is the case.

    The culture of fear comes from the top down. It comes from society's leaders, and their inability to lead.

Picture, if you will, an angry father who has just punished you … for something you haven't done!  You may have “thought” about acting, but you never did.  How would your family life be after this?  Would you not live in constant fear that the next “thought” may send him over the edge again?

Is it any wonder the US over these past eight years has been viewed with such loathing by the world?
 
We have become the world's abusive, irrational father.

Time for the pendulum to swing to the other direction.  We need to have the nurturer step forward.

  Michael : catalyst-producer

Re: Foreign policy questions

Michael said Dec 16, 2008, 1:44 AM:

 

The culture of fear comes from the top down. It comes from society's leaders, and their inability to leadABSOLUTELY

Is it any wonder the US over these past eight years has been viewed with such loathing by the world? …
NO

We have become the world's abusive, irrational father …
YES

Time for the pendulum to swing to the other directionSO BE IT


We need to have the nurturer step forward.




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  Albert  : ~

Re: Foreign policy questions

Albert said Apr 24, 6:30 AM:

 

its silent on this thread since Obama is doing his job.

And this reflects the olds saying that campaigning is poetry and doing the job is prosa.

its damn tough job. Its focused on crisis managment for the next time. The same as in Europe and elsewhere.

So NOW is the moment to meshwork and convert conversations which matter to action with impact. With sustainable impact. And clear responsibilties.

Lectures have to be learned and mastered as much in top down clusters AS in grassroots. Anew form of evolutionary poltical intelligence which does not confuse spirituality and natural design. Poltical pragmatism and idealism. Stratified cultural realties and impulses of Utopia. Not about THE SHIFT but diverse transitions and transformation in most complex settings.

Foreign policy questions alway reflect something about the center of gravity in the cultures and societies.

Taking only Afghanistan, Pakistan and Middle East shows how weak most approaches are. And prayers of change are in no way sufficient.