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    <pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:45:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: IPCC 4th Assessment Report (SPM) is Out!</title>
      <author>http://my-head.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 14:45:04 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;      Perhaps the &lt;em&gt;inconvenient truth&lt;/em&gt; is that - &lt;strong&gt;the vast majority of Nobel Prize winners live in Geneva &amp;amp; that Al Gore has aspirations to do so as well ?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Re: IPCC 4th Assessment Report (SPM) is Out!</title>
      <author>http://my-head.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2007 13:08:55 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;      &lt;a href="http://craig-photography.blogspot.com/2007/02/effort-is-only-solution.html#links" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;EFFORT&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; is indeed the only solution - but  &lt;strong&gt;MIND-SET&lt;/strong&gt; has to change before this can happen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was trained as a meteorologist as well as an air traffic controller - before we had any concept about &lt;a href="http://my-head.zaadz.com/blog/1988/6/volcanos_earthquakes_and_climate_change" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;plate tectonics&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &amp;amp; its effect on climate change - and used to fly Pan American over the pole to San Francisco well before I regularly started flying to the West Coast via Iceland, Greenland, Saskatchuen &amp;amp; the Rockies.  My own personal experience of these journeys was that the ice was melting at an increasingly rapid rate before the &lt;a href="http://my-head.zaadz.com/blog/2007/2/in_their_quest_to_communicate" target="_blank"&gt;IPCC&lt;/a&gt; published their 1st Report.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Anyone who has any doubts about the issues/problems HOMO SAPIENS faces - including climate change - can do no better than read Colin Mason&amp;#39;s &lt;a href="http://my-head.zaadz.com/blog/2006/8/a_short_history_of_the_future" target="_blank"&gt;perspective&lt;/a&gt; and his proposed solutions.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From my own &lt;a href="http://my-head.zaadz.com/blog/2006/6/original_and_featureless_face#comment_41142" target="_blank"&gt;perspective&lt;/a&gt; I can not say more than -  &lt;a href="http://my-head.zaadz.com/blog/2006/8/just_add_water" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;just add water&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;   - because we sure as hell won&amp;#39;t be running out of that for some time to come ! &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>IPCC 4th Assessment Report (SPM) is Out!</title>
      <author>http://coolmel.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>~C4Chaos</dc:creator>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Feb 2007 18:12:52 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;      &lt;br /&gt; The summary for policy makers (SPM) of the &lt;a href="http://www.ipcc.ch/"&gt;IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) 4th Assessment Report&lt;/a&gt; is now out. You can check out the SPM &lt;a href="http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. I think it&amp;#39;s bound to start another round of controversy between the &lt;a href="http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/about_us/meet_us/roger_pielke/hp_roger/debate.html"&gt;Cassandras and the Dorothys&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; For example, there&amp;#39;s &lt;a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,2004230,00.html"&gt;this news&lt;/a&gt; in The Guardian that, &amp;quot;scientists offered cash to dispute climate study.&amp;quot; The blogosphere is already &lt;a href="http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&amp;amp;q=IPCC"&gt;buzzing&lt;/a&gt; with interpretations of the SPM.  Here&amp;#39;s one from &lt;a href="http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2007/02/the-ipcc-fourth-assessment-summary-for-policy-makers/"&gt;RealClimate.org&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&amp;quot;First of all, given the science that has been done since the Third Assessment Report (&amp;quot;TAR&amp;quot;) of 2001 - much of which has been discussed here - no one should be surprised that AR4 comes to a stronger conclusion. In particular, the report concludes that human influences on climate are &amp;#39;very likely&amp;#39; (&amp;gt; 90% chance) already detectable in observational record; increased from &amp;#39;likely&amp;#39; (&amp;gt; 66% chance) in the TAR. Key results here include the simulations for the 20th Century by the latest state-of-the-art climate models which demonstrate that recent trends cannot be explained without including human-related increases in greenhouse gases, and consistent evidence for ocean heating, sea ice melting, glacier melting and ecosystem shifts. This makes the projections of larger continued changes &amp;#39;in the pipeline&amp;#39; (particularly under &amp;quot;business as usual&amp;quot; scenarios) essentially indisputable.&amp;quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; And here&amp;#39;s a more gloomy reporting from &lt;a href="http://environment.guardian.co.uk/climatechange/story/0,,2004768,00.html"&gt;Guardian Unlimited&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&amp;quot;The authors have reached some pretty depressing conclusions: that human activity has contributed to climate change, and that even if we change our behaviour today, the planet will become a more dangerous place.&amp;quot;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; Since the media will have different interpretations of the IPCC report due to &lt;em&gt;political bias&lt;/em&gt; or &lt;em&gt;plain ignorance&lt;/em&gt;, it would be hard for lay people (like me) to get an accurate understanding. Even if I read the IPCC report myself, a lot of the language, terminology, and scientific studies cross-referenced in the report will be alien language to me because I&amp;#39;m no expert. That&amp;#39;s why I&amp;#39;d still depend on &amp;quot;experts&amp;quot; to interpret the report. Hopefully, the experts I would turn to will have less bias. And that&amp;#39;s where the element of trust and certain &amp;quot;beliefs&amp;quot; will kick in. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; But when everything is said and done about Climate Change, I&amp;#39;d still stick to my own gut feel: to treat &lt;a href="http://pods.zaadz.com/climate_change/discussions/view/27792"&gt;Climate Change &amp;quot;as if&amp;quot; it&amp;#39;s a myth&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;So what do you think? Feel free to discuss.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;In other related news, &lt;a href="http://www.bloggernews.net/14320"&gt;Al Gore has been nominated&lt;/a&gt; for the Nobel Peace Prize and his film &lt;a href="http://www.breitbart.com/news/2007/01/23/D8MR39K01.html"&gt;may also win an Oscar&lt;/a&gt;. Nice. &lt;/p&gt;

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