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Communication by word.Ian Gardner said Mar 25, 2007, 4:10 AM: |
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Communication by word is by speech or writing and I believe that we all wish to communicate exactly what we mean. However, to accomplish this wish how many of us are willing to put in the effort? |
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Re: Communication by word.Kiso [no longer around] said Mar 25, 2007, 11:20 PM: |
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e.e. cummings might disagree with you a bit. Communication by word also requires additional cue to humanize it. For the written word, this is different from this, which is different from this. Even the humble emoticon serves this function. What if I were to follow the previous sentence with : ) instead of : ( ? Human communication requires human emphasis. Tempo and rhythm, creative misuse of words, tone of voice, facial gestures, metaphor and simile…these all act to complete that which is intended to be communicated because they are the accents that give word and language life, making them more comprehensible. In my Tai Chi class, I will tell students to take sideways steps toward the left, turning the body toward the left as they place their weight onto the left foot, turning the body to the right as they step in and down onto the right foot. As they repeat the stepping, I ask them to hold their hand in front of them, letting them float up/down in opposite directions as the step and turn. It yields some kind of movement. All correctly explained. But the moment I tell them that this stepping is called “Wave Hands Like Clouds,” to imagine someone would get the impression of a cloud moving through the sky merely be watching them, what was “only” movement now gives way to gracefulness. |
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Re: Communication by word.Shep said Mar 27, 2007, 12:41 PM: |
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I'm glad this subject has been brought up. Jiddu Krishnamurti put it simply and beautifully: the word is not the thing. The word is not the thing. In fact, in examining what language actually is, we find it is a technology, a discovery no more than about 25 - 30,000 years old according to pure linguists. Spoken language consists of units of sound woven together, sounds that have been agreed upon to represent something. Written language is nothing more than the spelling of the name of the thing which is being represented!!! There are layers between what words are attempting to represent and the thing itself into which all manner of ambiguity and distortion have woven themselves in, making communication an increasingly challenging enterprise as the world grows more complex. |
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Re: Communication by word.Kiso [no longer around] said Mar 28, 2007, 6:08 PM: |
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I'm not sure that there is a need to change the “technology,” not that I consider language to even be that at all. Language has a way of changing organically anyway, so trying to define and control the technology (in the long run) doesn't seem to be useful. But if someone has something important to say, they will attempt to say something about it. Whether they are understood or not depends in part in the listener's desire to understand. |
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Re: Communication by word.Ian Gardner said Mar 30, 2007, 12:52 AM: |
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Yes, guys, I do not disagree with what you say but I must remind you that my comment was in relation to “communication by word” and one cannot be more specific than that! |
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Re: Communication by word.Ian Gardner said Mar 30, 2007, 1:20 AM: |
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I have spent some time looking for a suitable place to make this comment but could only find this thread. It seems to me that in the case of written communication IT has increased the quantity but decreased the quality. |
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Re: Communication by word.Kiso [no longer around] said Apr 1, 2007, 8:50 AM: |
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Can you give examples of “word sets” that fail and succeed as being what you consider as written communication? |
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Re: Communication by word.Ian Gardner said Apr 2, 2007, 12:59 AM: |
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Hi Kiso, |
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Re: Communication by word.davie said Mar 30, 2007, 10:18 AM: |
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What if… and this is CWaZY- I know! But… what if… words come into being in a mind as a finite entity- and then this word which is finite and limited on its outside goes into circulation. This word picks up connotations… structures… history… etc. The word influences the way a culture thinks and at the same time is influenced. The word expands…. Forget the spellin’ n’ whatnot fer a moment. Cuz- surely those of ya readin here can quite rightly understand what the hella I’m a talkin bouts. Mark Twain’d be proud. Words come into being. Brings to mind… Logos. Words are not THE ‘thing’ but they are surely things themselves. Things which evolve and take on a life of their own. Things with their own funninesses and goofierly uses. Just the difference between the French derived and Germanic derived words and their uses in the English (modern) language are amazing. What if this entire universe is a Word which when spoken was finite and boundaried. This word expanded internally (still finite from the outide in form and structure) and encompasses the meaning of the all? Woot!
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