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  mita : Awake-catalyst

Imagine your ideal dream economy and new currency here~

mita said Feb 26, 2008, 8:55 PM:

 

Hello my friends. Our collective creative thoughts and dreams can energize the intention of this pod and give the collective intention experiment set in motion here a boost.
 
Tune into your power to imagine….give it a free reign here and jot down a few lines or phrases that comes up now in this present moment…

Note: See and feel what you like to see and experience instead of what you do not like and release it openly like zaadz seeds.

I imagine living in a healthy whole new economy where …..


My dream currency have these features …


Thanks so much for your attention and help. I'm getting goose bumps writing it!!!

Peace & Joy
mita

  peter : ______

Re: Imagine your ideal dream economy and new currency here~

peter said Feb 27, 2008, 10:12 AM:

 

Below some ideas and resources:

http://reinventingmoney.com/library.html
http://circ2.home.mindspring.com/
http://www.timebanks.org/

  mita : Awake-catalyst

Re: Imagine your ideal dream economy and new currency here~

mita said Feb 28, 2008, 6:37 AM:

 

Great to hear from you Peter and thanks for the links.

Just took a little visit to your site, see much new material. Hope to browse a few like your section on economics.

i'm most interested in people's personal reflections, and wishes that grow out of their unique journey…since you seem to be doing a lot of that. You also seem to have travelled a lot and seen much.

So please jot down a few pithy reflections that comes from your heart here .

Thanks for sharing.

Peace

  peter : ______

Re: Imagine your ideal dream economy and new currency here~

peter said Apr 11, 2008, 8:47 AM:

 

Thanks Susmita.

It's very simple: free banking (non-regulated) with private currencies. Most likely people will settle with 100% banking (warehouse) with some commodity metals but are not limited to those if they prefer to use something else. Naturally electronic banking and cards can be used so not much needs to change in that front.

Henry Hazlitt fits here (see the full article)

Private Coinage; Notes Fully Redeemable

Let us see where this leads us: Governments should be deprived of their monopoly of the currency-issuing power. The private citizens of every country should be allowed, by mutual agreement, to do business with each other in the currency of any other country. In addition, they should be allowed to mint privately gold or silver coins and to do business with each other in such coins. (Each coin should bear the stamp, trademark or emblem of its coiner and specify its exact round weight–one gram, 10 grams, or whatever. It would be preferably referred to by that weight–a goldgram, say, and not bear any more abstract name like dollar or ducat.) Still further, private institutions should be allowed to issue notes payable in such metals. But these should be only gold or silver certificates, redeemable on demand in the respective quantities of the metals specified. The issuers should be required to hold at all times the full amount in metal of the notes they have issued, as a warehouse owner is required to hold at all times everything against which he has issued an outstanding warehouse receipt, on penalty of being prosecuted for fraud. And the courts should enforce all contracts made in good faith in such private currencies.

At first glance this proposal would seem to be much more restricted and hampering than the Hayek scheme. But it would, in fact–if it could be achieved–lead to an almost revolutionary monetary reform. The competition of foreign currencies and of private coins and certificates would bring almost immediate improvement in most national currencies. The governments would have to slow down or halt their inflations to get their own citizens to continue to use their government's money in preference to the most attractive foreign currencies, or to private gold or silver certificates.

But something far more important would happen. As the use of the private currencies expanded, a private gold standard would develop. And because of the restrictions placed on it, it would be a pure, a 100 percent, gold standard. The government fractional-reserve gold standard–which was the “classic” gold standard–was finally stretched and abused to the point where, in my opinion, it can never be restored by any single nation or even by a “world authority.”

Worthy of Trust

But this, when one comes to think of it, will be ultimately a tremendous boon. For though people will probably again never trust a fractional-reserve gold standard, they will trust a full gold standard. And they will trust it the more if it is no longer in the exclusive custody of governments–consisting of vote-seeking politicians and vote-seeking officeholders–but also in private custody. The gold reserves will no longer be held solely in huge national piles–subject often to the overnight whim or ukase of a single man (Franklin D. Roosevelt or Richard Nixon). Gold coins will circulate, and be held by millions, and the gold reserves will be distributed among thousands of private vaults. The private certificate-issuers would not be allowed to treat–as governments have–this gold held in trust as if it had somehow become their own property. (In the U.S., that engine of inflation known as the Federal Reserve System would of course be abolished.)

Permitting private gold coinage and private gold-certificate issues will allow us to bring the world back to a pure gold standard. This has hitherto been considered an utterly hopeless project. As long as we were operating on a fractional-reserve gold standard, any attempt to return to a pure or 100 percent gold standard would have involved a devastating deflation, a ruinous fall of prices. But now that not only the United States, but every other nation, has abandoned a gold standard completely, the former problem no longer exists. The beginning of the new reform would bring a dual system of prices–prices in gold, and prices in the outstanding government paper money. In the transition period, prices would be stated in both currencies, until the government paper money either became worthless, or the issuing government itself returned to a gold standard and accepted its outstanding paper issues at a fixed conversion rate. (An example of this was the German acceptance of a trillion old paper marks for a new rentenmark–and finally gold mark–after 1923.)

Subsidiary Coinage

Government-issued money did supply a uniform subsidiary coinage. It is hard (though not impossible) to see how a private currency could solve this problem satisfactorily. Perhaps governments could be trusted to continue to mint a uniform subsidiary coinage and keep a 100 percent gold reserve at least against this.

But apart from such comparatively minor problems, I can see no great difficulties in the way of a private money. The main problem is not economic; it is political. It is how we can get governments voluntarily to repeal their legal tender laws and to surrender their monopoly of money issue. I confess I cannot see how this political problem is going to be solved. But it is the urgent and immediate goal to which every libertarian, and every citizen who can recognize the great jeopardy in which we all stand, should now direct his efforts.”

  mita : Awake-catalyst

Re: Imagine your ideal dream economy and new currency here~

mita said Apr 12, 2008, 4:56 AM:

 

Thankyou Peter for putting your thoughts together and your contribution. I am going out soon and it will take me some time to digest. Hope to respond in near future.

BTW, yesterday I had a spirited conversation with Chris Lindstorm of unMoney Convergence coming up in Seattle April 14-16. Unfortunately I cannot go, as I am trying to wrap up things and get my ducks in line before leaving for India soon (may 2- June 9th) .

If you or anyone in this group is interested to participate via Skype, Chris said there will be opportunities to do so in both days. Also you may share your ideal currency idea there.
All the best.

Three Cheers
for unMoney Convergence

PS. Also I would love to have additional moderators for this POD, if you or anyone is interested to keep this Pod moving in the right direction. Chris mentioned about Cooperative banking in Spain (nondragon?)

  mita : Awake-catalyst

Re: Imagine your ideal dream economy and new currency here~

mita said Dec 24, 2008, 8:48 AM:

 

Hi Peter

Hope all is well with you. I have not posted here for long as I was busy with my DEEP CONSCIOUS CAPITALISM blog, which I am framing more from my buddhist perspective which sees all the problems and sufferings coming from dualistic mind set and some people have taken advantage of that. The gold standard
has to go because there is simply not enough gold to meet the needs of exploding commerce relying on debt-based usury based fiat currency.

I am reading the book 'web of debt' by Ellen H. Brown, J.D. and she gives the fascinating currency history behind all revolutions and wars both in United States and other countries around the world (compiled from many sources of course).  Her book is endorsed by Bernard Lietear, author of Future of Money and developer of EURO.

She explodes the myth that fiat money production is regulated by GOvernment. ” Our money system is not what we have been led to believe. The creation of money has been “privatised”, or taken over by a private money cartel (see Amero in my blog). Except for coins (3% of our money supply), all our money is created as loans advanced by private banking institutions, including the “private” Federal Reserve. Banks create the principal but not the interest (componded) to service their loans. To find the interest new loans must continually be taken out, expanding the money supply, inflating prices and robbing you of the value of money.” She explores a workable alternative , on ethat was tested in colonial America and is grounded in best economic thought, including the writings of  Benjamin Franklin, Thimas Jefferson, and Abraham Lincoln.

My view is that currency itself is non-dual and we need a common definition and shared understanding of currency taking the interdependence of all life into account ..one that takes us off the path of divisive conflict and public private debate. I'll add more in my blog next year.  Somwhere here in the POD  I addressed why we need to get off gold standard and the commodity notion of money, especially in view of the current US and global financial market crisis.

 Thanks for your participation.

Cheers
mita