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Mediation ThreadSandra said Dec 7, 2007, 9:38 AM: |
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I'm starting this thread, rather than a new board because I feel we have too many boards already. This thread will always stay at the top of the Tree House, so you can find it easily. |
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Re: Mediation Threadquietlaughter said Dec 7, 2007, 5:27 PM: |
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Thank you for this Sandra. I appreciate that you would take the time to create this thread… I don't know about the private exchanges, but it is a good idea to have a safe place to voice 'issues' … I don't want to seem like I have any - though I have been a bit confused about some of the threads here… I am getting the hang of things I think… alot of rules |
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Re: Mediation ThreadSandra said Dec 8, 2007, 4:45 AM: |
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Thanks Leigh-Anne! |
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Re: Mediation ThreadEarthdweller said Dec 9, 2007, 1:27 AM: |
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Thanks Sandra I was feeling bummed tht no one really commented on me but reading others stories and poetry is helping me find new ways to explore my past memories and put them ina format I have some ideas but getting the memories out is first when i post something here i am exercising my writers voice it could be years before i am a writer of a novel or short stories i know it helps to write andd go back and reread i have a journal i was writing before my boyfriend passed that i know will be helpful in getting feelings out and adding conversation thanks again i told you youd teach me something :) |
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Re: Mediation ThreadSynerjyz said Dec 9, 2007, 6:18 AM: |
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“Open is the magic gesture of the heart ready for deeper love Holding this space open for Deep Listening is like a magic gesture waving us to move fearward, toward rather than away from, the uncomfortable stings in our own learning. Conflict and dis-ease is so ripe with nutrient rich soil, acting as the manure we need – I hear you asking us to aerate it into our garden so that those stubborn, dormant seeds can burst with life. I don’t mean to be preachy here but I was inspired by your post Sandra. Not just because you have created a thread where we can ‘mediate it out’ (so to speak) but because you always call us, so beautifully yet powerfully, to dive a little deeper, to dive into the dark, to dive where it is not so warm and fuzzy, diving deep enough to cause us to gasp for air. I really love that about you and your leadership. This is what I love about DD too! I remember the beginning - when we laughed at our own awkward attempts to get naked, when we celebrated each fumble or not so brilliant move toward a deeper spot on the grid. I remember your comments nudging me to reveal more, highlighting my guard, calling me out, - to show my slip (undergarments) as if my gifts were hidden there. Being radically honest in this thread calls us to courageously step out of the dressing room -in plain view- with nothing but our undergarments on, fighting for that deep gasp of air (validation) with nothing more than the soft armor of our beliefs, wants and personalities. Public nakedness for our private scares to catch some rays of healing! Wow This could be miraculous! But the potentiality of miracles lives in our authentic gestures of trust! I have sensed the influence of your involvement with ‘the fall-out from the Seed System’ for quiet some time now and I honor your consistent commitment to co-create a place where trust acts as the weed eater for unexpected growth. I love the growing pains of Zaadz and DD right now because passing through these darker alleys of mistrust and conflict is calling us all toward the light. I imagine the DD crew diving deep enough to pop up inside these little cave pockets far beneath the surface where the cool air of old energy serves to freshen our lungs and the healing stirs us toward an intimacy rarely possible on the surface. I am here. |
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Re: Mediation ThreadTom said Dec 9, 2007, 10:32 AM: |
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Undergarments? Darn. |
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Re: Mediation ThreadMaya said Dec 9, 2007, 12:01 PM: |
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Oh Holy Brother Ya Ya |
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Re: Mediation ThreadSynerjyz said Dec 9, 2007, 1:51 PM: |
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Awe my dear ya ya hai master, I love you too! Syn |
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Re: Mediation ThreadSandra said Dec 9, 2007, 12:45 PM: |
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Syn, Starseed, everyone, |
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Re: Mediation ThreadSynerjyz said Dec 9, 2007, 2:05 PM: |
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Sandra dear, you should know how I do it since you do it to me too! Like here… Love yall |
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Re: Mediation ThreadSandra said Dec 10, 2007, 6:56 AM: |
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I don’t know who that is but I heard it the other day and earnestly told him to shut the hell up, |
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Re: Mediation ThreadNono said Dec 9, 2007, 2:13 PM: |
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Absolutely wonderful thread, yes to it! |
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Re: Mediation Threadjenni said Dec 9, 2007, 4:44 PM: |
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hello. I am glad you started this as well. not only can I say what i feel but I can read other's thoughts as well. I know how starseed feels about few to no comments. I think we all feel bad about that and it makes us gun shy. sometimes from my point of view, I don't always comment because I am not sure what to say. It doesn't always mean that works are not being read. Sometimes I have to go back and read again. I will make an effort to comment more. Hopefully everybody will. I think one time Sandra said something about commenting a couple every times when you post. I do want to say for myself that I am hesitant to post on the poetry board. I feel like I don't know enough about the poetry process to actually be there. I love poetry and maybe I need to get over that and just write without a concern. Why do i care so much anyway. |
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Re: Mediation ThreadMaya said Dec 9, 2007, 5:46 PM: |
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Hi Jenni |
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Re: Mediation Thread - SUGGESTIONNono said Dec 9, 2007, 10:14 PM: |
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Dear Sandra & Mods, |
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Re: Mediation Thread - SUGGESTIONSandra said Dec 10, 2007, 7:03 AM: |
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I believe Jim took it up under the seeds discussion that zaadz could add the counter of how many reads a posting has. |
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Re: Mediation Thread - SUGGESTIONNono said Dec 10, 2007, 8:02 AM: |
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It's there now, on that Think Tank pod. Go support the idea, go! We can make a difference. |
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Re: Mediation ThreadSandra said Dec 10, 2007, 7:16 AM: |
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Oh and Jenni: I do want to say for myself that I am hesitant to post on the poetry board. |
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Re: Mediation Threadjenni said Dec 10, 2007, 6:01 PM: |
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I had thought about that, thanks sandra. I just posted one on poetry, before I wrote this, but next time. thanks jen |
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Re: Mediation Threadquietlaughter said Dec 10, 2007, 4:26 PM: |
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Hello everyone,
I have not been ‘present' here as much as I would like to be these days - I am very busy at work at the moment, however, I still am trying to take the time in the evening to read and catch up on the day's posts. The “issue” of commenting is one, I have to be honest, I have wrestled a bit with how to address it with the group… there is a definite structure and expectation for DD, and I find it kind of restrictive. I don't like to comment just for the sake of commenting. I definitely recognize that the purpose of posting here is to get some feedback (good bad or ugly) and to be fair to everyone, commenting is important, but it is useless to me to give out a comment that is forced or hollow - I feel that many of mine have been because I cannot give my energy to them the way I would like to. There is a lot of pressure to comment, and while it has been very helpful for me the feedback I have received so far, but it is certainly not something that I expect. I have pieces go for weeks no being commented on, one even has never been commented on… I don't take it personally, why should I? I don't want to become attached to the comments or the expectation of getting them - it's not very helpful to me. The feedback that I have gotten on my own things has been authentic and truthful, and what I needed to hear at that particular time. I am truly grateful for those comments. If no comments come, then nothing does. It just isn't the right time for it - that is what I believe anyway. I personally don't want to write for comments, I want to write to move deeper into the art of writing and into myself… writing comments for other people's work is different. I can comment about the structure or the elements of the writing - no problem, but instinctively I want to go deeper than that, in a way that isn't just coming off as praise… and, being sensitive to the needs of others, if something just doesn't work for me, I am very hesitant to include that into my response (partly that has to do with being new here, and not knowing everyone terribly well enough to be able to give constructive criticism that won't be taken the wrong way… the energy of late has been kind of dicey and I wouldn't want to misstep) Anyway - I guess the challenge for me right now is more about the writing itself. I am not too concerned with things that I have posted going without response/ recognition or views (it happens not just in Zaadz but elsewhere). I treasure the comments that people have left for me, and I hope that I will be able to comment in a constructive way that will be seen less as the number of comments made, and more in the light of their quality instead. Well sorry for the blahblah - just wanted to take the time to write about it while it was top of mind |
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Re: Mediation ThreadTom said Dec 10, 2007, 6:35 PM: |
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quietlaughter: No worries on the floaties. We will save you. That is to say we won't let you drown. |
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Re: Mediation Threadquietlaughter said Dec 10, 2007, 6:55 PM: |
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aww you know Tom, I could just hug you right now for writing this. I so appreciate the extended hand to keep me from drowning, the kindness and understanding that you've shown me. I have never been a part of a writing group before… DD is my first, and every day I am understanding more and more that I have chosen the right place to become braver in my writing. |
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Re: Mediation ThreadSandra said Dec 11, 2007, 12:22 PM: |
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Dear Leigh-Anne– |
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Re: Mediation Threadquietlaughter said Dec 11, 2007, 4:19 PM: |
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Sandra, Thank you for your reassurance and encouragement… I need a good swim in the ocean, and as much as I love the surf… there are caves down in the depths that I would like very much to explore. Hugs to you! (we are getting freezing rain here tonight - I need the warmth from a hug I think!) xo la |
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Re: Mediation ThreadAmazume said Dec 14, 2007, 11:02 PM: |
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Hi everyone, |
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Re: Mediation ThreadSandra said Dec 16, 2007, 7:36 AM: |
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Nell.. welcome, and thanks so much for sharing this - I think it's a really wonderful point, how the 'content' or subject matter can be triggering – and what to do about this. For me it sounds like you handled it beautifully - i.e. was there 'for' Mary as a writer and for her work, leaving aside your own issues on the content. |
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Re: Mediation Thread - On Not Being Commented UponSandra said Dec 16, 2007, 7:40 AM: |
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On Not Being Commented Upon Starseed raised this issue again here, and there have been some wonderful responses to her. I particularly liked Syn's piece and I'm going to copy and paste it here so it doesn't get lost: —————
I've often raced back to the pod after posting with intense anticipation of what attention or comments my latest post has attracted and to my hungry ego's surprise it sits there just as I left it - no comments / no way to tell if anyone has even read it. and I must admit that I've even felt a tiny bit of panic when I see my post leave the first or second page of most recent - thinking it is sinking for ever without attention. and some have sunk -some were revived long after posting and I am learning to trust. ~Trusting my ability to validate and be with my own work, independent of comments. ~Trusting that the activity and attention of a post has more to do with the reader (the way the piece calls to people) and little to do with me and what I need as a writer. ~Trusting that what I need as writer will come right on time, in just the right way. ~Trusting that interest is something my writing attracts rather than something for me to hold. This journey of writing, especially the diving deeper writing as a process, can be a winding road, often traveling around the bends and curves without a clue of what we will find, left hungry & dissatisfied if we don't find what we expected. [so I'm giving up my expecting and its working-most of the time ~lol] I wonder if relaxing into it would help to enrich your writing experience. I wonder if you could gift yourself with what you seek from others and listen for your own constructive criticism about your work. I wonder what you would find if you engaged your work as the reader, detaching yourself a bit from the writer. I am so glad you are writing and sharing it here. DD is more about writing than comments. DD is about diving, deeper and deeper into your own voice. The deeper the dive the deeper the voice, the stronger the connection with others who are submerged in deep dives, their own and each others. DD may not be the place to ask to be offended; I hope you can trust that divers here are not known to hold back when they are moved to say their piece. Comments are often ripe with the green algae many starving artist (me) seek to feed on but algae tends to grow where it grows and isn't very rich when it is manufactured for the masses. Relax, my friend, and simply allow yourself to sink deeper into your writing and let the comments be like non-essential footnotes, placed purposefully along the edges. :) I am holding for your highest good Starseed. and I hope my long-winded, slightly preachy post has found it's way to your heart where I intended it as my gentle gift of encouragement. I behold you posting unattached, loving each dive for the gift it has for you. Nameste' Syn ——————— |
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Re: Mediation ThreadRichieRich said Dec 16, 2007, 8:16 AM: |
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I will endeavor to do my best to comment here on people's work. It is very very hard as I do not wish to offend or give empty praise (echoing other poster's sentiments). But it is something I do want to do. |
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Re: Mediation ThreadSandra said Dec 16, 2007, 8:49 AM: |
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:-) Richie. I love what you say. Yes :-) “I found myself once or twice during the read pulling on my editorial hat and then I realized, holy shit, the free fall method of writing applies to reading too! You have to take off the editorial hat even when you're reading, go completely nude-head, bare-head naked, so the words don't have time to lodge in your brain but sail right into your heart. Then you can read it true. If the editorial voice butts in during the first read, you lose the magic. You have to give up control as a reader too, let the song of the sound carry you where it will. Judgement kills, not only teenager's egos, but artistic communication between souls. You judge art by living it and you can only live it if you let it in.”Love, Sandra |
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Re: Mediation ThreadSandra said Dec 16, 2007, 8:56 AM: |
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Oh I missed Nono's post above re her post to the Think Thank for a counter on our threads…yes lets all go and give the thread our 'yesses'. |
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Re: Mediation ThreadRasa said Dec 16, 2007, 2:45 PM: |
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i am listening….the O factor.us…..seems to be directing me deeper and deeper into ONESELF…….and here i am sharing the balance of the archetypes in play….experiencing the SPACE of that meditation always here and now …the beautiful pure perfect love …THE LOVE in playful active meditative dance…blessings |
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On the Art of Being Offendeddavie said Feb 27, 2008, 9:03 PM: |
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Truth be told, I ain't offended. Factually, ma'am, I was athinkin of postin somethin a so offensive that it'd rot the nose hairs offa coyotey. But, stretchin the limits of ma cro-magnon capabilities (so, some might say) I can't athink of a single danged thing. So be it. |
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Re: On the Art of Being OffendedSandra said Feb 28, 2008, 7:55 AM: |
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! well I have to more or less agree with you david ..but hey man you had too many espressos or something writing this??! oh, it's that matcha tea of course… |
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