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Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 7, 11:58 AM: |
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Ok, I'm going to shut my eyes tight and post this, from my first day. Gotta start somewhere… |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)Sandra said Nov 7, 1:54 PM: |
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There is something absolutely riveting - beguiling, is that what I mean? - about this Ruth. The juxtaposition of lyrical, deep, tormented, circling, powerful, inner dialogue with the moments of almost hilarious interaction with the man …You, he teased, and reached across her. Is this your tanning lotion? |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 7, 3:02 PM: |
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Maybe not flat, I think flat was what I was thinking after the first couple of days when nothing more wanted to come… Don't know, it makes me uncomfortable somehow, not sure why. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)ayla said Nov 7, 3:18 PM: |
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Flat? Are you serious? This is so lyrical it reads like a poem, a song. It's almost eerie and yet it's soft and lush and and sad and and …circling and …I don't know - so unique! If it were to be a prologue, I would read it and feel sure that I had a very special treat in store. I would be very anxious for Chapter One although not anxious for the prologue to end, does that make sense? |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 7, 3:37 PM: |
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Hey Ayla, thanks. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)Gabriele said Nov 8, 11:18 AM: |
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Ruth, everything Sandra and Ayla said. I'm pretty amazed at what you posted here, within sentences a universe of a character unfolds with psychological depth, precison and abundance of sensuous detail. I get a sense of doom hanging over this young woman, oh so vulnerable in her longing for |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)drechanteuse said Nov 8, 9:25 PM: |
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Can I just add that this is immensely beautiful? Really. And even with the circular pattern of the writing, the flow is so absolutely clear and gripping. Lovely, lovely. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 9, 12:01 PM: |
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Gabriele, Andrea, thanks so much for reading and commenting, appreciating. I'm feeling a bit differently about the writing of this now, thanks to y'all. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 9, 12:20 PM: |
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Day 2 (took me a while to get up the courage :) |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)Sandra said Nov 9, 2:14 PM: |
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I'm so so glad you posted, Ruth. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 9, 3:29 PM: |
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I was wanting some of the told events to be 'shown' and I also wanted to hear them exactly as they were written, as in this way I felt more and more inside the I character, almost irrevocably so. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)ayla said Nov 9, 4:53 PM: |
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I don't know, Ruth. I can see what both you and Sandra mean, the way this voice is coming out is different and it takes a minute to get used to but I wouldn't say that it was looseness. That doesn't feel like an apt description. It's different and in the end that's what I especially like about it. What's wrong with a unique style of writing? (I was even asking myself, does Ruthie always write like this, trying to remember). It's magical. That's what it is. Magical. My only worry, if I were to be writing this, would be if I could keep it up. If there came a change it would have to be slight, carefully done and maybe just here and there for clarity. Personally, I hope you can keep to this voice. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)quietlaughter said Nov 9, 6:05 PM: |
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I thought both of these were just incredibly beautiful pieces of writing Ruth. I was drawn in by the first, and felt spit out by the second - spit out in the sense that I felt very raw and emotional after reading it. I cried too. I can't see clearly to pick out my favorite lines, but just wanted to tell you that I am in awe. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)debyemm said Nov 9, 11:32 PM: |
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Ruth, |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)Sandra said Nov 10, 9:44 AM: |
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Ruth - just wanted to add, is that what I feel is happening here is a kind of hovering, a circling that has to happen before the big dive. Not that there's not been diving here, there has. But I really do feel you are on the 'right' track. You'll know when it's time to move more into showing. It's already started to happen here. Everything you have written feels 'necessary'. Whether or not it ends up in the book is irrelevant right now. Something big is pulling, and you'll know when the right time is to tug on the line. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)drechanteuse said Nov 10, 11:48 AM: |
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Ruth, what is mentioned here is what I feel is such a challenge when writing a novel, the showing versus telling. I think if this were not Nanowrimo, it could be easier to show more, but it is something, for me at least, about the word count that creates a pressure that comes out in my writing as telling when I want to be showing. Yet, with both excerpts of yours, I was drawn in completely, willingly, wanting to go through the highs and the lows with your character. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 10, 1:13 PM: |
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Ayla, Leigh-Anne, Deb, Sandra again, Andrea: |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)Sandra said Nov 10, 2:02 PM: |
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Ruth: And part of me is concerned with thinking that if I'm going to do this already then I should make it as true as possible, and yes, I know that sort of thinking is a block in itself… |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 11, 6:22 PM: |
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Hmm, yes, and I'm coming from having heard but not actually witnessed much of what happened, and wanting to get it 'right' regardless. Like a mystery, working back from some event that was the culmination of everything that came before, trying to piece together a jigsaw puzzle life. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 11, 6:45 PM: |
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from Day 10 |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)ayla said Nov 12, 6:45 AM: |
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What a surprise that Mahmud really did just want to talk. As I read, I was just thinking, “uh huh, a hotel room to just talk, sure!” I'm curious about the relationship between the I-characters sister and Mahmud in their younger days …hoping for a flashback? What were these sisters like as teens or very young women? What was their relationship like then? Were they always so close? (I don't have a sister and am always fascinated to know more about how sisters interact and love). And these marriages …lots to work with here, Ruth. Certainly leaves me wanting more! |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)Gabriele said Nov 12, 7:29 AM: |
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Ruth, I read the third, new piece this morning, while checking my email. Only wanted to have a short look but got hooked immediately and had to read the whole thing. Loved it. Great interaction, first the Mahmud scene, then the two siserters. Loved everything, the dialog, the themes, the undercurrent, especially in the second piece. That sister and her fatal dream! Oh boy! VERY interesting stuff. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)drechanteuse said Nov 12, 7:54 AM: |
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Oh, yay! Lately when I want to comment on the prose threat, it has been freezing so I have to close my browser and try again. So, I did, and here I am. I want to say I agree with everything that Ayla and Gabriele said. Oh, those control issues that the men have. It tells me that both of these women may be in trouble. I should know. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 15, 11:38 AM: |
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Thanks, you guys, for reading, commenting, encouraging. I have to say I liked writing this part because in spite of undercurrent, etc, it seemed less emotional, nice to get out of the intensity sometimes. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 14, 1:26 PM: |
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from Day 13 |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)Sandra said Nov 14, 1:33 PM: |
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Ruth. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)jenni said Nov 14, 3:11 PM: |
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dear rudyan. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)ayla said Nov 15, 6:40 AM: |
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Dear Ruth, |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 15, 11:43 AM: |
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Hey Jen, thanks for reading day 1 and for your detailed comment, telling me how it made you feel, what you identified with. It is always good to have your feedback. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)rudyan said Nov 15, 11:39 AM: |
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Sandra, Ayla, some part of me always cringes at posting stuff like this. You guys are so good at reassuring me… And I know that sometimes there just aren't words to say. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)Gabriele said Nov 19, 12:35 PM: |
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Ruth, I came back tonight to read your last bit here. I remember I had started it some time ago but left it for later, because it seemed like something very complex and intense that would need my full capacity of taking it infinally. Now 'later' has come and I'm glad I read it. I don't think you need to worry about sentimentality. Heartbreakingly well written, about things so painful and emotional true and without a grain of sentimentality in it. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)jenni said Nov 19, 3:33 PM: |
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I could have sworn I commented on this, but I can't find it so I am not sure what happened to it. maybe it is buried down there somewhere. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)quietlaughter said Nov 19, 5:26 PM: |
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oh I am so glad that I decided to take some time tonight to read and catch up on people's excerpts… I've read all of yours again - three times now, Ruth, and each time I find them more and more touching… well, no wait, it is more that they touch me more and more on a deep level. Achingly beautiful. I love the exchange with Mahamud, the desire, the sisters, the letter, so many other things… I felt like I was being transported into this world, like floating on water. I also really like the theme of the sun and the first day. It's very intense for me to read the last excerpt - I love reading your writing, and I hope that you will keep posting excerpts. I can't wait to read more. |
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Re: Capricorn's Moon (NaNo excerpts)Sandra said Nov 20, 1:54 PM: |
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ditto to Ayla. I was just coming here, thinking, I'd like to read some Ruth. |
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