Deceit of the Selfish Mind?

Are we running on old programing that is inherently selfish?  In a religious sense it is required that you give 10% as a dynamic exchange to the organization to receive up to a 10 fold return.

I work on a donation basis system where you pay the most you can.  Some pay way more, some pay way less.  But does this system work because of the selfishness in the human condition, that is a passed down trait learned before the age of two?

Or does letting the giving and receiving flow operate, in a universal aspect, to create its own economy?   I guess I am wondering will people really pay the most to receive the most, or will they inherently choose to pay the least  to receive the most, when given a choice?

Re: Deceit of the Selfish Mind?

I think people first see that they are secure. It can't really be called selfishness. It's perhaps more like being reasonable according to them. Then if they still have more, they think of the society. That is why people donate, even if less.

Some people really want to help the most they can. While some people don't feel secure enough with the same amount of money.So they'd want to rather keep more with them. Also, they may differ in their requirements. It probably depends on how much money at-least they think they require (although they actually might require less). And even sometimes, someone who is a millionaire donates $1,000 and someone whose has $10,000 donates $10. Even though the former has given much more, both have donated 1/1000th from what they have. So it doesn't really make either one of them more selfish or selfless than the other.

And even though the first thought may be of security, and the second of society…the third is probably of profitability/selfishness. If two things provide the same amount of security and service to society and one costs more than the other, people will prefer the one that costs less as it profitability becomes the deciding thought.

Then again, there are things like hoarding which produces a large profit, but in doing so significantly affects the society (economy). Maybe when the profit exceeds a certain amount for a person, he forgets about the society, and sometimes even of his security. And for some people the value of profit never reaches their value of society. :)
So maybe it just depends from person to person.

Re: Deceit of the Selfish Mind?

Recently I have begun to recognize that the fundamental egoic self-perception is of the one who experiences the senses and responds to them, motivated by a dualism inherent in one who lacks an internal standard such as may be granted by the divine core. Children are not blank slates, and are not so heavily influenced by their environment, as agreeing by selfish will to join the mutual project of the rest, as they all uphold one another in a false society of shallow tolerance of maximum grabbing for all. With the spiritual aspirants an additional useful element comes in, for they begin attaching value to appearing on the saintly end of the visible human spectrum, where notoriety attaches to a certain distance from the brute accumulation of objects.

These people are building pseudo-personalities from their reactions to the senses, that are not like the divine persona which the Self or Atman upholds. I call them pretend people. They have substantial mental power, but the body’s movements and ordinary speech are easily mastered even from the lower spiritual states such as rajas. It is because the faculties of speech and action are so easily mastered, that human beings appear fairly similar unless you can look close, with the eyes of intense discrimination. If you can do this, vast gulfs begin appearing, the spiritually powerful are more attuned to reality.

Everyone brings a mind capable of assigning some meaning to every word in the English language, but there are huge practical differences in interpretation. It is my submission that the idea of exchange can only arise in a dualistic mind. A unified mind will not be able to think about the exchange of goods, because it can quickly apply the Golden Rule, which reveals that if you withhold something necessary from another unless he brings something in exchange, it is a type of cruelty. The early system of bartering and its modern monetary counterpart, are the result of ego, plain and simple. Further, if there were unified minds in existence on this planet, and they decided to gather to form a society, they would not be able to communicate easily with those who continued to barter or exchange, in the “other society.” They would only look at them baffled, perhaps saying, “You deny them things, so you can get things. That is very unfriendly.”

If humans are pretend people, then it follows that they cannot be approached by actual people, if any such exist. From this it follows that all the religious revelations given heretofore, have been inauthentic, not honest communication from the heavenly realms where unified minds must exist, if nowhere else. No authentic revelation has ever been given to a pretend person, because they are not capable of receiving it. Their personalities are not real, they are only collections of reactions to sense experience with selfish motive.

My point is the unified mind will not even be able to think about giving and receiving. That is dualism. It won’t even be able to think about sharing. Instead from independent power it thinks about contributing to society motivated by the joy this action will allow others to step into and experience, as their fundamental needs are met wisely and well. As I say, such a mind is incapable of thinking of a return for its efforts, but at the same time it would find it to be bizarre, if others do not think similarly and out of this similar thought a wonderful congruence arise. This is living in the spirit and a higher rational truth.