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  Apollia : Microdonations is my Favorite Word

Sent pod email isn't in my sent maibox; & questions re: rules,etc

Apollia said Nov 15, 2007, 9:31 PM:

 

Hi, I recently tried to send two mailings to my pod.  It seemed like it worked - there was the usual message about how “it may take a while to reach all pod members”.

But, the messages aren't in my sent mail box, which makes me wonder if it worked.

The messages I tried to send were these:
http://pods.zaadz.com/microdonations/discussions/view/206293
http://pods.zaadz.com/microdonations/discussions/view/206375

Which leads me to my next question. :-)

Since asking for money on Zaadz is now against the rules, what exactly should I do with many of the posts on my pod?  I already went through them to edit out people's PayPal addresses and so forth - is that enough to be compliant with the rules?

I also noticed
in the Zaadz Terms of Use that commercial stuff on Zaadz is a lot more restricted than I thought it was.  Should I completely delete all classified ad-like posts?

Anyhow, I understand that you can run Zaadz any way you please, and I'm not going to altogether leave Zaadz, but, I would like to say I think these restrictions are a great pity and they leave me no option but to restart my group elsewhere.

So, I'm disappointed, but I still wish Zaadz all the best.  Thanks for everything.

Apollia

  ~Matthew : Youthful Maturity

Re: Sent pod email isn't in my sent maibox; & questions re: rules

~Matthew said Nov 16, 2007, 8:23 AM:

 

Hi Apollia,

It is unfortunate that we had to make a change in the terms of use.  It came about because a member was scammed on Zaadz into wiring a Nigerian con artist a good deal of money.  Many on Zaadz are kind-hearted folks, and that makes them a good target for these cons.  Therefore, we had to make a rule that it's not just against our terms to ask for money but to send money as well.  We're just trying to protect the innocent.  That, unfortunately, affects your wonderful pod, too. 

My suggestion would be to make a note in your pod, on the home page, explaining this and linking to your other website (like you did in that discussion post above).  I don't think you need to worry too much about deleting posts and things.  But maybe you'll want to lock the threads up, so people know it's closed.  It's up to you.

Hugs,
~M

P.S. as for the pod message you sent out, check your sent items folder now, and let me know if it still hasn't showed up.

  Apollia : Microdonations is my Favorite Word

Re: Sent pod email isn't in my sent maibox; & questions re: rules

Apollia said Nov 17, 2007, 2:45 PM:

 

Thanks for your most helpful reply. :-)

Quote:
Hi Apollia,

It is unfortunate that we had to make a change in the terms of use.  It came about because a member was scammed on Zaadz into wiring a Nigerian con artist a good deal of money.  Many on Zaadz are kind-hearted folks, and that makes them a good target for these cons.  Therefore, we had to make a rule that it's not just against our terms to ask for money but to send money as well.  We're just trying to protect the innocent. 


Oh, well, I understand.  My preferred approach has always been to encourage people not to be gullible, to use their own judgment in deciding what to do, but, I can understand wanting to just ban any activity which might conceivably be at all troublesome for anyone.

I myself have worried at times about “what if a scammer shows up at my pod and people send money to them?”, even though I did go out of my way to point out to people in my pod's “How To Use This Pod” thread that no one's stories or identity is verified, and to watch out for scams.

However, judging by how few of even the Featured Recipients in my pod actually received anything, I would have to say most people are actually quite cautious about sending money to people they only know over the internet - even in cases where the recipient has been very forthcoming about who they are, possibly has their own website, and/or has contributed so much to Zaadz over such a long period of time that the presence/identity they've established for themselves on Zaadz is probably far too elaborate for most scammers to even bother going to so much trouble.

Still, I have long thought that what would be much better than simply telling people to use common sense would be to be able to do some form of concrete, reliable verification of people's identities and stories.  With my meager financial means, this wasn't really feasible for me to do, however (and I'm not even sure yet what the best way to go about doing that would be anyhow).

Anyhow, hopefully someone with the resources will eventually implement what I hoped to implement, and the microdonations concept will finally succeed as well as I imagined and hoped. :-)

That, unfortunately, affects your wonderful pod, too. 

Oh, well.  But, it's nice to know you consider my pod wonderful.  Thanks. :-)

My suggestion would be to make a note in your pod, on the home page, explaining this and linking to your other website (like you did in that discussion post above).

OK, I'll link to this thread with your very helpful explanation.

The link to the pod's future new home is already up, though it still goes to the pod rather than a new site.  At some point I'll probably change it to go to a simple page of news/information on the progress of the development of the new site, but it will take a while to get a forum running, especially since I'm thinking of maybe coding some forum software from scratch, something I've never done before. :-)

Another reason why it may take a while is because I'm thinking of just focusing exclusively on other projects for a while.  I admit, not having the responsibility of a forum to worry about greatly appeals to me.

I don't think you need to worry too much about deleting posts and things. 


OK, thanks. :-)

But maybe you'll want to lock the threads up, so people know it's closed.  It's up to you.


Excellent idea.  Thanks.  :-)  I'll lock some, but I think I'll leave many open in case anyone wants to post suggestions or emotional support for anyone, etc.

The entire pod is not actually completely closed, but, it's going to be limited only to discussions, and no ads of anything for sale, or donation requests.

Hugs,
~M


Hugs to you too. :-)

P.S. as for the pod message you sent out, check your sent items folder now, and let me know if it still hasn't showed up.

Thanks for trying, but, the two messages actually still aren't there.  Doesn't really matter, though, as long as the messages actually were successfully sent out, which I assume they probably were.

Thanks again. :-)

Best wishes,
Apollia

  1Vector3 : "Relentless Wisdom"

Re: Sent pod email isn't in my sent maibox; & questions re: rules

1Vector3 said Nov 18, 2007, 9:44 PM:

 

Hi Apollia, just a word from the peanut gallery: Why is it that Kiva does not work for you? How is your system different from that one?

I see you struggling, and I am very empathetic. I wish you the best.

Blessings, OM Bastet

  Apollia : Microdonations is my Favorite Word

Re: Sent pod email isn't in my sent maibox; & questions re: rules

Apollia said Nov 21, 2007, 8:56 PM:

 

Hi, sorry for the delayed response - I forgot to check back on this thread, so didn't see your message until tonight.

Thanks for your thought-provoking questions. :-)  I've placed a more in-depth reply at my pod.

http://pods.zaadz.com/microdonations/discussions/view/208837

Apollia