Technical Difficulties?

Hi Folks,

This question may have been raised before, if not, here it is.

Upon reading the Centerpointe literature for the technological needs for the advanced levels, namely Delta stimulation, I started having doubts about the validiity of the claims for some of the levels in Holosync.

Here is a series of correspondence I had with a friend who is also working with Holosync

By the way, as I mentioned before and something Holosync did not address is that its not just the headphones. I can't remember off the top of my head what the lowest frequency is that holosync produces, but it's a simple issue.

You can get headphones that produce a low frequency…what about the CD player? Finding one that will reproduce that low frequency is difficult…and don't forget the amplifier! I found a few that came close (not completely matching the lowest frequency though), and are expensive.

Just a thought.

Call them. Research the lowest frequency that Holosync claims to reproduce as a carrier signal and then look up the low end frequency range of your CD player and your amplifier. Its a problem if the CDs have very low frequencies encoded but your equipment won't reproduce it.

Response:

I just talked with a Centerpointe representative about the headphones, etc. She said that the headphones aren't needed until the series after Awakening. I am not remembering the name right now. I am on the 4th level of Awakening, so I will get headphones in a couple months or so. The Centerpointe support individual said that the CD player was not significant in the process; the headphones were the most important. I will be purchasing the ones they recommend, which are Sony MDR V-600.

Response:

Good Headphones
 
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/private_headphones_audiophile-headphones_004465



Technical Data
            Frequency response (headphones) 12…..39,000 Hz
           Nominal impedance 300 Ω
      Sound pressure level (SPL) 97 dB (SPL), at 1 mW
      Total harmonic distortion (THD) 0.1 %
        Weight w/o cable 9.2 oz. (260 g)


Regarding Centerpointes response, I'll say…give me your rationale. I'm not an electronics engineer or expert, but it would seem that it would be against the laws of physics to reproduce a frequency range that equipment is not capable of reproducing.


The only thing I can think of is the very low frquency response they report is there but is not necessary for results.
I am not knocking Holosync, I have a few discs myself. Its a great product. I just don't want to buy into the snake oil..there's been too much New Age muck over the years I've waded through.

Im looking for clear cut answers where its possible to have one within reason. Dealing with Stats on recordings and electronic equipment and then linking it to claims of putting you in a permananet state of consciousness, I need an explanantion why the CD player is not significant in the process.

I say bullshit. If the digital to analog converter in the CD palyer does not produce the frequency range Centerpointe claims is needed for SOME of their recordings, then I call that snake oil salesmanship unless they give me a good reason why.

Thats my take on it.

P.S.

Here on the specs for Sony MDR V-600.
They have it good on the low end of the frequency range at 5 Hz (the Sennheiser is 12 Hz) Sonys top end is 30,000 Hz (Sennheiser 39,000 Hz).

Sony MDR V-600 Headphones  -

Response Bandwidth-  5 - 30000 Hz
 Sensitivity 106 dB/mW
Impedance 45 Ohm
 
 
Daniel

Re: Technical Difficulties?

Hi Daniel:

Two threads where we have discussed this at length are:

http://groups.gaia.com/holosync/discussions/view/343498#343582
and
http://groups.gaia.com/holosync/discussions/view/328279#334902

The Sony headphones work great - I'm now on the last CD of Purification 3, and they hold up wonderfully.  As you'll note from the above posts, I stopped using a CD player a long time ago, because even a good one couldn't hold up to the JVC boombox sound quality.

As to Centerpointes indication that you can get away with using a CD player for the deeper levels, I'm wondering if they've ever really tested that out, because if they did, I'm sure they'd find a great difference.  If the CD player cannot support the frequency range (and most can't), then it definitely DOES make a difference in how the binaurals will be interpreted by the head-phones.  I'm thinking they might be afraid to say this because it might scare off some people if they thought they had to have better than average equipment to do the program.

As to the effectiveness of the program itself, five years ago I was a whining wimp, ready to throw in the towel on life.  Today I'm an NLP and Hypnosis trainer, and damned near bullet-proof regarding things upsetting me to anywhere near the degree they did back then.  At the same time, I have an increased sensitivity to life and people that's amazing, so it's not a matter of anything shutting down.  I can hardly wait to see what I'll be like in a half-dozen years when I'm done the program!

Blessings!
Gem

Re: Technical Difficulties?

hmmm… this is not something I considered.  I use an ipod which I'm sure is very common now.  With that being entirely digital I'm assuming there wouldn't be a problem.  I do use wmf instead of mp3 so there's not a loss of quality in transferring the cd's to my computer.

Any opinions on ipods?  Would the whole issue even be the same as for a cd player?

Corina

Re: Technical Difficulties?

I emailed Centerpointe about this issue with the CD player. This is the email I got back.
From: Centerpointe Support Team <support@centerpointe.com> To: Larry Rudisill <soaringeagle58@earthlink.net>

Subject: Re: larryrudisill

Date: Sep 18, 2009 12:42 PM





Hi, Larry!

The answer is no, the CD player does not matter.  The man may have gotten a better CD player with better-sounding output, but the frequency reading on the CD players is not linked to being able to get benefit from the program.  If there were a need to look for a different CD player, Centerpointe would mention this.  It's only the headphones that matter.

You can purchase a $10 crappo CD-player from eBay and it will work through the whole program.

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Re: Technical Difficulties?

Well, they can say what they want - I repeated AL3 and definitely got more push from the level (which I was almost finished at the time) once I switched over to better equipment.

To me, it only stands to reason that if you're not annoyed to distraction by crappy sound (and being a musician, I guess for me that has a fair amount of importance, and I need things to sound good), you're going to get more out of the program. So if the CD player hasn't got enough UMMPH to properly handle the upgraded ear-phones, you're going to get sound distortion.  The only thing Holosync sounds better on, than on my JVC boombox, is when I plug the ear-phones directly into my mid-line home entertainment system.  I'd say that tells a tale in itself.

Re: Technical Difficulties?

Good point Gem, they may have forgotten about the fact that the CD player needs to have internal electical circuitry that is robust enough to drive a pair of large headphones.