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Re: Bill Harris interviewed

http://thepixellator.gaia.com — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 04:53:42 GMT

Thanks Pelle, I've just clicked over to listen.
I just saw Ken Wilbur and Bill Harris live in Westminster CO at the end of August.
Bill spoke about the same types of things he writes about on his blog; psychology developmental levels. Ken spoke about integral theory and the fact that we're on the "frothy leading edge of evolution."

Re: Technical Difficulties?

http://pelle.gaia.com — Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:58:55 GMT

Good point Gem, they may have forgotten about the fact that the CD player needs to have internal electical circuitry that is robust enough to drive a pair of large headphones.

Re: Technical Difficulties?

Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:07:33 GMT

Well, they can say what they want - I repeated AL3 and definitely got more push from the level (which I was almost finished at the time) once I switched over to better equipment.

To me, it only stands to reason that if you're not annoyed to distraction by crappy sound (and being a musician, I guess for me that has a fair amount of importance, and I need things to sound good), you're going to get more out of the program. So if the CD player hasn't got enough UMMPH to properly handle the upgraded ear-phones, you're going to get sound distortion. The only thing Holosync sounds better on, than on my JVC boombox, is when I plug the ear-phones directly into my mid-line home entertainment system. I'd say that tells a tale in itself.

Re: Technical Difficulties?

http://Excelsiors.gaia.com — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 16:51:14 GMT

I emailed Centerpointe about this issue with the CD player. This is the email I got back.
From: Centerpointe Support Team <support@centerpointe.com> To: Larry Rudisill <soaringeagle58@earthlink.net>

Subject: Re: larryrudisill

Date: Sep 18, 2009 12:42 PM

Hi, Larry!

The answer is no, the CD player does not matter. The man may have gotten a better CD player with better-sounding output, but the frequency reading on the CD players is not linked to being able to get benefit from the program. If there were a need to look for a different CD player, Centerpointe would mention this. It's only the headphones that matter.

You can purchase a $10 crappo CD-player from eBay and it will work through the whole program.

Regards,

Support Team Coach
Orders: (800) 945 - 2741
Support: (503) 672 - 7117
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Re: Technical Difficulties?

http://corinac.gaia.com — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 19:24:22 GMT

hmmm... this is not something I considered. I use an ipod which I'm sure is very common now. With that being entirely digital I'm assuming there wouldn't be a problem. I do use wmf instead of mp3 so there's not a loss of quality in transferring the cd's to my computer.

Any opinions on ipods? Would the whole issue even be the same as for a cd player?

Corina

Re: Flowering Levels

http://Nomaders.gaia.com — Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:01:50 GMT

Hi Larry,

I'm currently on Flowering level 1, CD4 (which really doesn't mean anything:). I must say that Gem put it better then I could have:
"As to the effectiveness of the program itself, five years ago I was a whining wimp, ready to throw in the towel on life. Today I'm an NLP and Hypnosis trainer, and damned near bullet-proof regarding things upsetting me to anywhere near the degree they did back then. At the same time, I have an increased sensitivity to life and people that's amazing, so it's not a matter of anything shutting down. I can hardly wait to see what I'll be like in a half-dozen years when I'm done the program!"

I can't say I was a whining wimp but I did get stressed easily and it lasted for a while(hrs to days). Anger was a close friend and now it seldomly shows itself. Some days are bliss and others are plain but few are bad. I accept what happens to me and know if it seems negative, there will be a bright side (and believe me, there were negatives in the last couple of years). I believe in "source", whatever that is. I believe we are all connected at a sub level, it's just hard to see it when we are caught up in "life drama". We have spiritual guides and just need to ask for help, look for the good, and it will show itself. When I think I have everything under control, I'm forced to drink another cup of "humility", which reminds me to keep the ego in check and be thankful for what I have.

I hope this gives you a taste of what I hope you will get out of the program.

Kind Regards,

Larry

PS - and I have no affiliations with the Centerpointe program.

Re: Technical Difficulties?

Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:33:59 GMT

Hi Daniel:

Two threads where we have discussed this at length are:

http://groups.gaia.com/holosync/discussions/view/343498#343582
and
http://groups.gaia.com/holosync/discussions/view/328279#334902

The Sony headphones work great - I'm now on the last CD of Purification 3, and they hold up wonderfully. As you'll note from the above posts, I stopped using a CD player a long time ago, because even a good one couldn't hold up to the JVC boombox sound quality.

As to Centerpointes indication that you can get away with using a CD player for the deeper levels, I'm wondering if they've ever really tested that out, because if they did, I'm sure they'd find a great difference. If the CD player cannot support the frequency range (and most can't), then it definitely DOES make a difference in how the binaurals will be interpreted by the head-phones. I'm thinking they might be afraid to say this because it might scare off some people if they thought they had to have better than average equipment to do the program.

As to the effectiveness of the program itself, five years ago I was a whining wimp, ready to throw in the towel on life. Today I'm an NLP and Hypnosis trainer, and damned near bullet-proof regarding things upsetting me to anywhere near the degree they did back then. At the same time, I have an increased sensitivity to life and people that's amazing, so it's not a matter of anything shutting down. I can hardly wait to see what I'll be like in a half-dozen years when I'm done the program!

Blessings!
Gem

Re: Skeptical...

http://drs1958.gaia.com — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:38:40 GMT

I posted this thread on the frequency response of audio equipment and I am adding it to the mix in this thread

http://groups.gaia.com/holosync/conversations/view/472461

Daniel

Technical Difficulties?

http://drs1958.gaia.com — Sun, 23 Aug 2009 13:25:26 GMT

Hi Folks,

This question may have been raised before, if not, here it is.

Upon reading the Centerpointe literature for the technological needs for the advanced levels, namely Delta stimulation, I started having doubts about the validiity of the claims for some of the levels in Holosync.

Here is a series of correspondence I had with a friend who is also working with Holosync

By the way, as I mentioned before and something Holosync did not address is that its not just the headphones. I can't remember off the top of my head what the lowest frequency is that holosync produces, but it's a simple issue.

You can get headphones that produce a low frequency...what about the CD player? Finding one that will reproduce that low frequency is difficult...and don't forget the amplifier! I found a few that came close (not completely matching the lowest frequency though), and are expensive.

Just a thought.

Call them. Research the lowest frequency that Holosync claims to reproduce as a carrier signal and then look up the low end frequency range of your CD player and your amplifier. Its a problem if the CDs have very low frequencies encoded but your equipment won't reproduce it.

Response:

I just talked with a Centerpointe representative about the headphones, etc. She said that the headphones aren't needed until the series after Awakening. I am not remembering the name right now. I am on the 4th level of Awakening, so I will get headphones in a couple months or so. The Centerpointe support individual said that the CD player was not significant in the process; the headphones were the most important. I will be purchasing the ones they recommend, which are Sony MDR V-600.

Response:

Good Headphones

http://www.sennheiserusa.com/private_headphones_audiophile-headphones_004465

Technical Data
            Frequency response (headphones) 12.....39,000 Hz
           Nominal impedance 300 Ω
      Sound pressure level (SPL) 97 dB (SPL), at 1 mW
      Total harmonic distortion (THD) 0.1 %
        Weight w/o cable 9.2 oz. (260 g)

Regarding Centerpointes response, I'll say...give me your rationale. I'm not an electronics engineer or expert, but it would seem that it would be against the laws of physics to reproduce a frequency range that equipment is not capable of reproducing.

The only thing I can think of is the very low frquency response they report is there but is not necessary for results.
I am not knocking Holosync, I have a few discs myself. Its a great product. I just don't want to buy into the snake oil..there's been too much New Age muck over the years I've waded through.

Im looking for clear cut answers where its possible to have one within reason. Dealing with Stats on recordings and electronic equipment and then linking it to claims of putting you in a permananet state of consciousness, I need an explanantion why the CD player is not significant in the process.

I say bullshit. If the digital to analog converter in the CD palyer does not produce the frequency range Centerpointe claims is needed for SOME of their recordings, then I call that snake oil salesmanship unless they give me a good reason why.

Thats my take on it.

P.S.

Here on the specs for Sony MDR V-600.
They have it good on the low end of the frequency range at 5 Hz (the Sennheiser is 12 Hz) Sonys top end is 30,000 Hz (Sennheiser 39,000 Hz).

Sony MDR V-600 Headphones -

Response Bandwidth- 5 - 30000 Hz
Sensitivity 106 dB/mW
Impedance 45 Ohm

Daniel

Re: Difficult upheavals?

http://chelseafc1981.gaia.com — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 20:07:40 GMT

hyy all check my youtube channel dedicated to holosync www.youtube.com/richardmccaul

Re: Difficult upheavals?

http://chelseafc1981.gaia.com — Mon, 20 Jul 2009 21:18:15 GMT

just rember wen u fellin moody messed up done its gona be beatiful soon this is our calling;)

Re: Difficult upheavals?

http://pollyanna.gaia.com — Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:39:14 GMT

Wow! That's incredible. Thanks Gemstar.

Re: Difficult upheavals?

Wed, 15 Jul 2009 13:25:04 GMT

Hi Polly:

From information garnered elsewhere, apparently the jump down in carrier is almost double what it was in the previous three levels, which apparently puts an additional stress on the wet-ware. So instead of just a teensy bit of overwhelm, many experience a major impact.

There are also a lot of theories about why this was done, but the best one I've heard so far is that they didn't want to put an extra CD or level in "Awakening", and wanted only four levels each in Purification and Flowering, so they took a chance that "most" people would be able to tolerate the jump down the rabbit hole without too much extra upheaval. Obviously, from feed-back over the years, unless people had already bought the Inner Circle package, this is where many jump off the boat, unfortunately, because of this somewhat arbitrary decision.

Those that did purchase the Inner Circle tend to suck it up somehow and get through it. The instructions on AL4 actually suggest that you take extra time on the level - I'd suggest doing almost double the time on most of the CD's in that level. Those that don't do that and push into Purification 1 too soon, tend to then really get the bends there. There is no race to the finish line - pushing and shoving your brain around will not get you there faster. Unfortunately most people didn't learn the lesson in K1, and payback is a b**ch!

Cheers!
Gem

Re: Difficult upheavals?

http://pollyanna.gaia.com — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 07:28:30 GMT

Hi everyone.

Just been thinking...does anyone have a theory as to why AL4 seems to have such a profound effect on most users??

Thanks,
Polly

Re: Fighting sleep during Immersion

http://Meta-Panik.gaia.com — Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:17:59 GMT

Every time I start a new Level, I find myself unable to stay awake for the first couple of weeks.. It's awesome. I find that holosync works a lot better for me when I am asleep, as opposed to being awake for the session.

It's like my brain gets overdosed on the masses of nero-chemicals that are being produced while in the delta state and my brain stops functioning consciously while my sub-conscious laps it all up.

When I become consciously aware after the session, I feel so much more relaxed and happy then when I do after a session that I am consciously aware of.

You certainly know your stuff, Gemstar. Good Job! If given the task, I don't think I could've picked a better moderator for this subject even if I tried.

Re: Awakening Level 1

http://chelseafc1981.gaia.com — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:14:28 GMT

well i just used cd 4 for 2 days level 1 woo verry tough but it will be worth it.and if any 1 is experiencing upheavel or drama counting breaths is good but if ur really at ur tollerence level sit in medataive position and breath from stomach very deeply relaces soo much energy.

Re: Awakening Level 1

http://emptyOne.gaia.com — Fri, 29 May 2009 21:25:21 GMT

Thanks for the reply. I've been keeping it up for a past week, and now I'm able to keep counting my breaths up to 10 pretty much the whole way through. It must have just been the first day or two that made it so difficult to keep count. I'm starting CD 2 of AL1 tonight. It'll be my first experience with 1.5 Hz. I'm definitely looking forward to it.

Re: Awakening Level 1

http://chelseafc1981.gaia.com — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:08:07 GMT

sound perfect to me prob the 2d tracks 2 nothing to be concerened about

wt level u ppl at

http://chelseafc1981.gaia.com — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:05:55 GMT

and whats happeing at that level

Re: Awakening Level 1

http://davybuoy.gaia.com — Thu, 21 May 2009 20:55:29 GMT

Thanks for the explanation, that will make it less of a trigger. I think I was worried that there was a glitch with the beats or something, should have just asked support or posted here straight away