Gaia: Holosync - Introduce yourself - BiPolar & Holosync

Re: BiPolar & Holosync

http://pelle.gaia.com — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 17:03:05 GMT

Hi Nada,

Welcome to the pod!

No, we didn't stop posting. The activity goes up and down though, with more active period followed by more passive periods.

If you post some more specific questions, I'm sure you'll get some answers.

Pelle

Re: BiPolar & Holosync

http://nadanow.gaia.com — Sun, 19 Apr 2009 02:07:46 GMT

Hi everyone,

could someone tell me a little about the program.

I see there are no recent posts here.Did you all stop posting?
thanks,
Nada

Re: BiPolar & Holosync

http://pelle.gaia.com — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:39:58 GMT

Thanks for sharing Larry!

Excellent to read about your progress, and how you came to use Holosync in a realistic fashion with realistic expectations.

Pelle

Re: BiPolar & Holosync

http://Excelsiors.gaia.com — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:30:24 GMT

I want to clarify something that would not be clear if I were reading my post I think. When I received the bipolar diagnosis, that was when I was in the latter portions of the Awakening levels.

Also, I want to say that I was trying to push through the levels and really not giving myself enough time on each CD. I would change to the next CD after 60 days and ignoring or not paying attention to whether or not I was still getting something from that CD. Once I got to AW level 4 my overwhelm was over the top and my life was becoming quite unmanageable. The already present symptoms of bipolar present were being exaserbated. I had been off all meds since 2004 for the depression and anxiety. I was trying to be a bull and force my way into wellness. Stupid thing to do. With the coaching and coaxing of a therapist, I agreed to see a psychiatrist, normally a lot I despise, but found this man to be quite compassionate and thorough. He spent time with me and determined that I had a type of bipolar called "mixed feelings" bipolar and he commented that it was kind of a living hell to have this. I concurred naturally. I had never had someone who I believed to finally understand what I was experiencing. Anyway, he put me on a drug called Lamactil, a drug that was originally used and still is used I think for epiliepsy. After a couple of months, my emotional range settled down and my life began to transform.

Now here's what I did. I took the medication. And I started back at the beginning of AW level 2. I listened to each CD as long as it took to where I sensed that I wasn't being pushed by it any longer. It took me another year or so to go back from AW 2 to get to AW 4. When I reached AW 4 again, I took my time. I listened to each CD as long as it took. Some took 3 months, I think one I listened to for 4 months. But I acted more thoughtfully in my approach to listening.

Now I am on Purification level 1 CD #1. I am in my 45th or so day of listening. I am finding it to be quite powerful. I am experiencing deep unresolved anger issues and realizations that are astounding but difficult. And I have lots of support from friends whom I talk to. I have a men's support group that meets weekly. I am in a loving relationship. But my bipolar symptoms are not present. I do not feel the need for drugs. But I have set my life up to get the support I need to do this hard work at times.

I fully think that if one has had mental conditions that have required the use of psychiatric drugs, then embarking on the Holosync journey should be accompanied by plenty of support. Take the journey as slow as necessary. If you need to listen to any one CD for 4 months or 6 months or take breaks from listening, then do so. My experience has been that it will heal your life. It has mine and continues to do so.

I think that for me, the Purification level has been the most powerful of all. I am taking it very slowly and will listen to each CD completely until I notice no overwhelm at all. With this level, there have been days that I have taken a break. Mostly, about once a week, I take a day or two off from Holosync. If I feel my anger levels getting to high or I start feeling lethargic or wanting to not do anything, then that's the sign that I am being pushed a little too hard.

Anyway, I hope this information is usefull.

Re: BiPolar & Holosync

http://Excelsiors.gaia.com — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 14:59:53 GMT

This is a copy of a post I made in another forum about Holosync in response to a person who didn't use Holosync and was slamming Bill Harris for making money and being a scammer so rather than edit it, I am posting it as is. It is relevant to this topic as will become obvious if you read it. I was diagnosed with "mixed feelings" bipolar in 2006 after being diagnosed in 1996 with chronic depression and generalized anxiety disorder and a couple of other mis-diagnoses. I was already in the latter portions of the Awakening levels at the time.

Here's the post:

I have been using Holosync since 2002. When I started out, I was on heavy medication, antidepressants, anti-anxiety meds, etc. I was even diagnosed as bipolar at one time and took meds for that for over a year and a half. I am now using the Purification levels. I no longer take any medication. I have no more symptoms of bipolar period. And over the last 30 years have given many, many times the amount of money to doctors, hospitals and various therapies, etc that I have traded with Bill for the technology he offers.

Centerpointe's Holosync and the education that I have received from Bill's writings and the support I have received from his support staff via calls and emails have literally saved and transformed my life without question.

Holosync and the listening to the CDs is not without cost. Obviously there is the monetary cost. But the other cost is the commitment to stick with it. Permanent, long lasting change rarely comes easily or without a price or sacrifice. I made a commitment to listen to the CDs. And I have done so daily for years now, even in the face of seemingly little progress at time and in the face of great overwhelm (which is simply my brain's resistence to the changes being made) at times.

If you are taking any psychiatric medications, I don't recommend going off of them when you start Holosync. You will just naturally know when it is time to start weaning yourself off of them. It could take a few years of listening but without the Holosync, I would still be numb and dumb on the meds and I doubt I would be able to be doing the things that I do today and handle the stressors that I handle today without more meds and constant therapy.

So to those who berate Bill for making money, I am sad for you. Just look at the fees doctors and pyschiatrists charge. And…what about the pharmaceutical industry?

And how often does their service effect permanent lasting change without continued reliance on drugs, drugs, and more drugs. And more diagnosis. I was diagnosed and re-diagnosed for 15 years. The final diagnosis was "mixed feelings" bipolar. I could handle very little stress and had to go on disability for a while. I took the drugs but I continued with Holosync and finally due to a lay off from work and loosing my insurance, I could no long afford their expensive visits and drugs. Out of concern for myself, I let my friends know and asked them to help me monitor my behavior so that if they saw that I was behaving in ways that seemed out of the norm, if my attitude was deteriorating, or if I was becoming deeply depressed to let me know what they were observing.

When I ran out of the last of my bipolar medication, I was nearing the end of the Awakening Levels. I have started the Purification levels now and it has been over a year since I have been off the meds and no symptoms. My ups and downs are normal and I am going through some of the most stressful times of my life. People are amazed at how I am handling my life. I even have a psychiatrist friend who says that he isn't sure if he would be handling his life as well as I am mine in the face of what I am going through financially now and otherwise.

That's my story. Do with it what you will. But I decided to purchase the entire program a long time ago because after using it, I just knew intuitively that this was what I needed and I held the hope that someday, I would no longer need drugs to cope with life and that what I had been "diagnosed" with was just how my brain had created a way to survive in the world at a very early age. Changing that was the key. And that is what listening to Holosync has done for me. I will continue with the entire program.

Re: BiPolar & Holosync

http://accordiongal.gaia.com — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:52:19 GMT

Dear Pelle

Thank you so much for your reply. My son is out of the hospital, and out of the "halfway" program that he went into, and IS taking medication. The episode occurred on April 12th. However, he is sleeping, sleeping, sleeping. He is seeing a psychiatrist, but is in a state of resistance to therapy in general. He doesn't think he needs help.

When he had his manic episode, he really had some wonderful spiritual insights. However, the grandiosity, which has still not completely subsided, is making it tough to reach him. He unfortunately does not have much grounding in spiritual practice in general. He thinks all these insights are original to him. I've been reading Ken Wilbur with a great deal of interest in his comments pertaining to this arena.

I am wondering whether there is a place that I could find information which a doctor, and in particular a psychiatrist, might find of use in considering the use of holosync.

Sorry I was SO long in responding to your post - not only was I away, but I haven't quite gotten the hang of the site.

thanks again

Re: BiPolar & Holosync

http://pelle.gaia.com — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 08:39:56 GMT

Hi Lynn,

I'm really sorry to hear about your son. But I think you're right that Holosync could help him.

Him using Holosync would be a balancing act though. Long-term it would raise his threshold in the brain and make him more resilient against manic or depressive episodes. But as you write, if he pushes himself too much, a new manic episode could be triggered.

If he does want to try Holosync, he should start using it very carefully. I'd say that doing half an hour every second day would be plenty. If he's stable using it that often he can start increasing his exposure, but only very slowly.

I'm not a psychiatrist but I'm an M.D., and I did 3+ years in psychiatry before I quit my career as a doctor. So my advice is based on my background, combined with my knowledge of Holosync.

Also, your son shouldn't start using Holosync too soon. Only after he's completely stable in his disease, possibly with the help of medication, would it be appropriate to slowly start using Holosync in the way I suggest. If he notices any early signs of a manic or depressive episode, he should immediately take a break from Holosync, until everything feels stable again.

We've had at least one member in this pod/forum who's bipolar and has used Holosync with great benefit, so hopefully someone with personal experience will post here too.

Pelle

BiPolar & Holosync

http://accordiongal.gaia.com — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 23:44:14 GMT

I started using Holosync pretty regularly in early May, and I'm noticing my focus is better. It has to be, because out of the blue, my 21 year old son had a severe manic episode with psychosis and has now been diagnosed as Bi-polar.

As I read through the material, I keep seeing info about how holosync helps to integrate the brain. It seems like it would be a good thing for my son. However, I would not want to risk kindling another manic episode. I would love to have some contact with a psychiatrist or someone else familiar with holosync to ask about this. They would not/could not give me info at Centerpoint on this.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

thank you