Gaia: Radical Honesty

Are you lying or withholding in your relationship?

http://globalclarity.gaia.com — Thu, 10 May 2007 04:48:37 GMT

My relationship of 6 years revealed in her last email to me that she has had a lover in the past year and decided for whatever reason not to tell me until after we broke up.

A 100% dealbreaker for me.

What about you? How have you dealt with a lie coming home to roost?

Have you ever lied about something to hurt someone?

B

Re: Let's Get Honest!

http://sprout.gaia.com — Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:47:16 GMT

Hello.

I think the first step towards honesty is recognizing that honesty is not truth. Being honest may hurt but if we were able to work through individual honest stances (be them joyful, paranoid, dicerning) as something that is unique, to that individual, we are then able to dissasociate our selves from what one is sharing, as being truth (for it is not), and see it for what it realy is, perspective.

Re: Let's Get Honest!

http://globalclarity.gaia.com — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 03:17:17 GMT

Jeez, I really have been too busy......

Well Cristin, the main principle of my course is core-splitting honesty. Not the honesty we think we are reporting i.e. judgements, beliefs, impressions imaginings etc.

True Honesty is when "something" happens then reporting to that person what we are feeling, the story we have made up about it and then stay relating with the other person until all the body reactions have passed and then, we can have an actual intimate encounter (and I don't necessarily mean sex, the word intimate is so misunderstood!)

This is a start, then we work at peeling off the layers of the onion and getting to the underlying "stuff" that causes our hurt, separation, rage, judgements etc etc.....

Make sense so far?

Re: Let's Get Honest!

http://illuminated.gaia.com — Mon, 19 Jun 2006 04:02:28 GMT

Great topic! I would love to hear more about the principles you teach in your course.

Any insights you want to share are appreciated!

Thank you, Cristin

Re: Let's Get Honest!

http://globalclarity.gaia.com — Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:22:03 GMT

"Only honesty is sexy" .... Osho

Re: Radical Honesty with Compassion!

http://void-rider.gaia.com — Mon, 29 May 2006 07:30:41 GMT

When does the cyberWorkshop begin? I'm game. Just became aware of pods today and joined this one. Seems not to have had much activity for over a month. But now's a new moment. What'll take for everyone tp ante up?

Re: Radical Honesty about the trees--SOS!

http://maryrives.gaia.com — Fri, 28 Apr 2006 13:57:26 GMT

yes, all of what you say is true---and my wish is for all beings to enjoy the ease of being, the beauty of life, and the "power of now".

my commitment is to be an effective steward of the earth, to defend our great mother, in ways that call upon radical honesty with compassion, not in your face brutal honesty. aho.

Re: Radical Honesty about the trees--SOS!

http://jaguargoddess.gaia.com — Fri, 28 Apr 2006 07:54:52 GMT

Your space is heaven sent, Mary. It must be such a treat to sit with Mother Nature and be. I would imagine that radical honesty, authentic truth, and bliss are easy to access in such a natural, sacred spot on our planet. namaste....

Re: Radical Honesty about the trees--SOS!

http://maryrives.gaia.com — Fri, 28 Apr 2006 02:07:50 GMT

you rescued and raised baby bats--and a kangaroo! you fill my heart with joy, too, Jaguar Goddess! (and thanks, Bruce, for this lovely pod in which to connect in this way)

because of reading my Zaadz blog about the owls, a couple of birders came over with tehir zoom lenses and photographed the owls, I will post the one i have on my blog soon. i learned from them that the owls are tow baby great horned owls, not snowy whites at all!

radical honest continues these days with the passing trouble in my paradise, but peace has returned, the owls are thriving and today was like a stroll through mister roger's neighborhood (avoiding the clear cut area, of course) with the mailwoman stopping to give my dogs treats as i brushed away their winter coats by the pond (which hosts snappign turtles, frongs, beavers, muskrats, blue herons, geese and lotsa fish)...i am so blessed!

may we heal our great mother as we heal ourselves and our own back yards!

Re: Radical Honesty about the trees--SOS!

http://jaguargoddess.gaia.com — Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:27:49 GMT

G'day Mary,

Thank you for sharing the good news. And hugs to the loggers with caring hearts. Am sending lots of thank you's their way.

I saved a bat (flying fox) in Australia. I asked the electricity company if they would come out and rescue the tiny baby bat from its dead mum, hanging on the wires on the street outside my home. They thought I was crazy.

I hired a private electrician and he got Bartholemeuz down for me. He was the cutest, tiniest, little friend. Then the milkman, after finding out about Bart, brought me another bat baby, Aquarius. I hand fed those little guys with a formula I made up, that included freshly squeezed mango juice, administered in toy baby's bottles.

Aquarius, unfortunately, was eaten by a roaming cat. But, Bart lived with me for a number of years. He grew into a huge, healthy guy, with a wing span of a couple of feet. He showered with me, slept with me, hung off my rear vision mirror, when I was in my car, and was my best friend. He used to hang upside down off my clothes when I took him out.

I have lots of animal rescue stories, a baby 'roo I bought for $2.00 from a group of aboriginal children. Samantha grew up, curled up next to my belly, for months, until she was old enough to hop around all day. I tucked my tops in my jeans to make a pouch for her.

Life is magical and full of bliss when we honor and love each other and Mother Nature and all her magnificent creatures, plants, and all that is.

Thank you Mary, for caring and loving your environment and your furry and feathered friends. You fill my heart with joy. It is my dream that we all become dedicated stewards of our wondrous planet, and live in peace and harmony with each other and everything we "touch".

Hugs, namaste

Re: Radical Honesty about the trees--SOS!

http://globalclarity.gaia.com — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:33:08 GMT

Thanks for the update!

We have had a couple of cases where some rich folks took out dozens of trees to get a better view, and, without permnission from the city to do it.

Fortunately we have local laws in place now to discourage it but it is still happening.

Let's hope your owl hangs around in spite of the exposure!

Many of us are awaiting the hatching of the eagle chicks on the Eagle web cam. They were supposed to hatch yesterday and the locals have warned the eggs may not hatch as the nesting eagles are getting a little long in the beak and the success rate diminishes with age they say.

Eagle Cam Here

Re: Radical Honesty about the trees--SOS!

http://maryrives.gaia.com — Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:27:08 GMT

Good news! The owl nest was spared and so was the tree it sits in, the loggers came eye to eye with the snowy owl nest of baby owls and they had the heart not to take that tree out with them in it!!! But all the trees around them came down, so now i can see the poor parent sitting on her babies, looking worried to me. While cute and amazing for humans to see, they are not supposed to be that exposed and vulnerable. I bet they won't come back next year, but i invite them to my patch of forest nearby that we pledge never to take down. i made a deal with the trees perilously close to my house that they get to stay and that they don't fall on my house! I made the same agreement with the mice that came in for the winter---they don't eat our food and they get to stay...its working, they have been in our kitchen late at night all winter but not once have they gotten into our food (except our compost next to the sink and the dog food leftovers which i welcome them too)...

wish i had a decent zoom lens to photograph the owl in her nest, but wait! my photographer son coems hoem this weekend so i will ask him to take some! if digital, i will post them on my blog...

just wanted to share the light of hope, a miracle really, in the tree saga story!

Re: Radical Honesty about the trees--SOS!

Wed, 26 Apr 2006 13:40:35 GMT

I don't have time to write more at the moment..but I just wanted to say that I so agree with you about trees..I just hugged a couple the other day again. I love trees. They are so amazing, and it blows my mind that others don't always respect them. I just wanted to share that..

More later...

Leslie

Re: Radical Honesty about the trees--SOS!

http://jaguargoddess.gaia.com — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 03:24:49 GMT

oops, after 24/7, should read just, not judy....sloppy me...excuse moi.

Re: Radical Honesty about the trees--SOS!

http://jaguargoddess.gaia.com — Mon, 24 Apr 2006 02:56:55 GMT

I am opening my arms to offer you healing from this trauma, Mary. I get your hurt and frustration.

I believe the ONLY way to bring balance to our world,/country,/community and rid it of its dis-ease is to be honest with ourselves, our friends, our neighbors, our fellow citizens of this land, and the world.

We CAN make a difference. We need to start reacting 24/7, no judy when discord touches us. We need to take part in the governing of ourselves.

We need to elect radically honest folks to represent us in our community, our state, our nation, and our planet. No more band-aids.

Do we dare? Have we the time? Do we care? What is really important to us, as a nation, a state, a community, a family, ME......??????

namaste, om shanti om

Love and light. a being ready to create a space for the possibility of radical honesty

Radical Honesty about the trees--SOS!

http://maryrives.gaia.com — Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:11:44 GMT

Please bear with me as I have a story that is unfortunately repeating history. As I write this, the walls of my house are vibrating from saws cutting into the 50 foot tall white pine trees in my neighborhood. This deeply disturbing deforesting has been going on all week as I attempt to provide peaceful hospice care for one of my dear old dogs, Sparkey.

Last time deforestation happened so close to us was ten years ago, I was less experienced but still radically honest with my neighbors and the loggers. I calmy and kindly pleaded with them to leave the mother trees of the forest, the old growth trees. In the morning, those trees were cut down and the loggers had spray painted happy faces on the trees' exposed centers. So, we responded with sad faces on the trees and another visit to the neighbors to present a letter from community friends to save the remaining trees. The neighbors not only promptly kicked us off their land but took out a restraining order on everyone whose name was on that letter. How ineffective RH was that round!

We have since moved to another town nearby, largely in part, to be among forested trees again. The neighbor couple taking down the trees right now had a close call with one of the trees falling in a wind storm recently. The tree fell away from their home but it freaked them out enough to have all the trees sawed down, leaving glaring empty spaces, disturnbing the fragile ecosystem of nearby wetlands and the shelter those trees provided for owls, woodpeckers, mammals, etc.

I am at a loss. I don't know what to do, and sitting here feeling the painful screaming of the trees rip through my heart chakra is not helping. Tonglen, perhaps, and continue to send love and compassion to the deva spirits as the saws still wail through and trees crash to the earth with a sickening thud that moves the earth under our home.

I invite your help. Shall I compose a letter to the couple? Am I too late to impact their consciousness even though I am too late to save the trees? Did I let my past experience render me helpless over private land owner decisions? Are there resources such as a letter to to such landowners that I can copy from the internet or can you help me compose one? And/or will you please send them healing also?

Thanks from the trees and me.

Re: Let's Get Honest!

Thu, 20 Apr 2006 20:35:48 GMT

In the Gnostic text called the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus is asked what the new rules are. He replies, "Do what you love and don't lie." That is a great mediation to go into. If we are not doing what we love, that is a kind of lie. I believe the words of a dying friend that only love and the acts of love matter. That is something to hold to as a truth meter. So then doing something we hate, like a deadening job, is a kind of lie. Saying, "oh fine<" when you are feeling shitty is also a kind of lie. So it does become a radical act not to lie. I don't see it as a morality challenge but as a meditation to move toward deeper reality, deeper honesty, deeper truth, deeper love. Yes this is radicl.

To bow to Steven Stills, "if you can't be in the world (job, marriage, location) you love, love the world you are in."

We are made of love, we are here to grow love, to make more of it than we came in with. All else might be less than honest.

Esclare

Re: Radical Honesty with Compassion!

http://maryrives.gaia.com — Wed, 19 Apr 2006 04:00:07 GMT

Bruce

that is so exciting! you have indeed been blessed! and i am intrigued by your workshop on radical honesty. what a dream to be faciitaitng that, a dream i woudl embrace and nurture---up for a little mentoring cus maybe i could spread the love as such a leader also, oh my. please tell us more about this work you do!

recently in a sleep dream, being a psychodramatist called loud and clear. i have been looking into Avatar training in this 'waking life'...all about being honest with the self, living in integrity, gettign desired results...sometimes i just wish soemone would tap me onthe shoulder and tell me what to package in a workshop of my own! yet in this dream, psychodrama came a calling..;hmmm!

thanks for this self-indulgence...power to the people

Re: Radical Honesty

http://dharmatongue.gaia.com — Wed, 19 Apr 2006 00:37:55 GMT

Ah, Yes, I realized today that I do have pain, which I was denying from experiencing within myself. Because other people are not comfortable with pain, I have began to deny it in myself, and I think this has added to it if anything. Just allowing ourselves to feel something anyway, diminishes it. Its beautiful! (and nice to share.. thanks for the opportunity).. ! Rebecca

Re: Radical Honesty with Compassion!

http://globalclarity.gaia.com — Tue, 18 Apr 2006 18:13:45 GMT

Thanks for the post Mary

I attended Brad's 10-day 'Course in Honesty' in Virgina a few years back. For 10 days, 16 participants committed to telling the truth. Holy crap.

It was the most intense 10 days I have experienced in my life. It continues to amaze me the level of intimacy available to all of us if we just drop our bull-shit. Brad and his co-facilitator Taber were tenacious in peeling off the subtle and not so subtle ways we keep ourselves from being truthfull and living beyond our perceptions, imaginings and beliefs.

I had the priviledge of Brad staying in my home for a few days during his visit and lecture in Vancouver, he is a very interesting man to say the least and I have learned much from him over the years. I have also spent a lot of time with Neale Donald Walsch since 1995 who's Conversations with God books are amazing (especially his latest At Home with God, a Life that Never Ends), so when Neale and Brad wrote a book together (Honest to God), it was a must read, and very enlightening perspective.

I also facilitate a Radical Honesty 8-week course for those who want to experience and apply the principles in their every day life.

So yes, we may just be having a little workshop here indeedy, great I say!