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  Balder : Kosmonaut

"Law of Attraction" Stories

Balder said Mar 8, 2007, 7:54 AM:

 

Here's a story about the Law of Attraction.  Or maybe it's a story about how the gods like to laugh at us…


My mother is a strong believer in the New Age “manifesting reality” paradigm.  Years ago, she had a particular vision of her future which she would declare:  “I want to live in a round house in the desert, drive a jeep, and study with a guru.”  She was dreaming of a big geodesic dome house, but always said “round house” for short.


A couple years later, she lost everything and was about to end up on the streets.  I quit college and essentially joined her on the streets, to help her get back on her feet.  We were homeless, but not actually sleeping on the streets; we drove across country and camped out, until we found a place we liked (Sedona) and stopped there.  We lived in a tent there, looking for work.  Eventually my mother got a job for Pink Jeep Tours and she would take people out to the vortexes.  In the evenings, in our tent, I would read Krishnamurti to her by candlelight before we went to sleep.


One night, as I was reading to her, she suddenly sat up and said, “Oh, my God!  It happened!”  We were living in a round tent, she was driving a jeep for a tour company, and she was listening to Krishnamurti every evening.  She started to laugh.  “I guess I wasn't specific enough…..”

  maxie : Zaadster

Re: "Law of Attraction" Stories

maxie said Mar 8, 2007, 8:09 AM:

 

Balder,

That is such a sweet story!

best,
m

  Gina : dancing

Re: "Law of Attraction" Stories

Gina said Mar 8, 2007, 9:02 PM:

 

LoA or clarity of intent?


Last summer I was trying to find a place for my daughter and I to move into after splitting up with my boyfriend.  I was wanting it to be:  1. Affordable 2. Cute 3. Close to her school 4. Easy for me to rent (I was having credit issues at the time)

I had about 3 months to look and was really worried about #4.  I can't say I was able to clear my worries of #4 but the focus and need for a place far out weighed my fear.

Two weeks before I was to move out, this amazing upstairs apartment became available for rent.  Not only did all the 4 needs get filled but added bonuses like feeling safe, good neighbors and nice landlords were the extras I didn't even request.

ahhh…… and I sit here tonight and smile in the glorious gifts of these manifestations

  maxie : Zaadster

Re: "Law of Attraction" Stories

maxie said Mar 9, 2007, 12:41 PM:

 

Ok, here's one:

I saw the Secret in early October.  Frankly, I ignored the “movie” as it totally violated my standards of storytelling, but I did fix on what seemed like an explication of an implicit reality I had been subliminally aware of all my life.  Something just “clicked” in me and I felt intuitively comfortable with the Law, or Principal, from the moment it manifest.

At the same time, I was wary from the beginning about “trying it out” as I had doubts about the ethics/morality of wishing for something, expecting it to come, and not doing anything else but wait.  It did not seem to square with the WASP work ethic I grew up with.

So I resolved to learn as much as I could about others reflections and experiences with the “practice.”  I read tons on the web and bought the Hick's book The Law of Attraction, despite my skepticism about “channeled” information.  I went ahead and read the book, telling myself that what was being said would either make sense or it would not.  Well, it made sense to me.

My wariness about beginning any “practice” was rewarded with constant references in LoA, the book, to the absolute importance of sharpening the Point of Attraction - that spot within us where the rubber of intention meets the road of reality.

Putzing around wishing for stuff, would mean, for me at the time, a compromise of my values.  So I waited and read, and read some more until I really got the Point of Attraction thing.  I realized that, without doing substantial Shadow work, I could have no real confidence in my Point of Attraction's authenticity.  Sure, I could fake gratitude.  Sure, I have a vivid imagination - but, without a really healthy, integral Point of Attraction, I might wish like a bastard for a billion dollars - and wish and wish and wish until my heart popped - and then it might come, out of a plane in a big bag, right through the roof over my bedroom, crushing me flat on my wishing spot.  This I did not want to endure.

So, after another month of study, I realized that a desire I had about a lack in my life, a lack of companionship on the intellectual/spiritual level might be an ok thing to wish for.  That the desire was real was evident, that, as I approached the Shadow, I would really benefit from such companionship.  I asked a couple of my friends who have routinely put up with my spiritiual/intellectual obsessions if they thought such a wish was pure enough to meet my moral standards.  They both said something to the effect of “Oh Jaysus, Michael, just do it already!”

So I did.  I began to practice contacting the Point of Attraction, framing the wish and sending it forth with as much gratitude as I could muster.  That was in the middle of December.  The day after Christmas, I got an invitation to join Zaadz.  It did not occur to me at the time that my wish and the invitation had anything to do with each other.  That would not come until a month later when, after plowing around Zaadz, through pod after pod, that I discovered I-I.  Even then, I still had not made the connection.  The connection came one day after I had introduced myself to I-I by fundamentally attacking everyone for their jolly blindness towards the LoA.  In the communications that followed, I met Balder, Pelle, MaryW, Mascha, Liz, Arthur, Jane, Ramsses and a dozen others and realized that, for the first time in my life, I had found a group of people with whom I felt safe enough to let my mind expand.  I cried about it then and I am crying about it now.

best,
Michael