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The Integral Pod (formerly I-I+Zaadz, or IIZ) is a discussion group (a.k.a. “pod”) for enthusiasts of the work of Ken Wilber and other proponents of integral thought. Our aim here is to provide a “We-space” for broad discussion of second-tier living, loving and learning. Please read our vision and guidelines – the ...(more)
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  melv : new father

Integral nutrition

melv said Apr 23, 2007, 9:25 AM:

 

Hi everyone,

I want to explore how the Integral approach can be applied to nutrition, as i have found the AQAL model to be so relevant and useful in my job.

I've summarised how an integral approach might look in a quadrant diagram as a staring point for exploration.

Any ideas, links to relevant research, opinions?

Many thanks

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  Eugene : (- . -)

Re: Integral nutrition

Eugene said Apr 26, 2007, 7:36 AM:

 

Besides the nutrtionanl quality I found it interesting that the ILP kit mentions the subtle qualities.  Was the food prepared with love?  Grown with love?  Slaughtered with love?

  Pelle : focusing

Re: Integral nutrition

Pelle said Apr 26, 2007, 8:19 AM:

 

I was gonna say bless your food, but this is pretty much what Eugene said.

Also chew your food well. At least 30 times before swallowing. You'll be surprised how much this helps digestion and general energy levels.

People with “leaky gut syndrome” especially need to chew there food really well.


Pelle

  melv : new father

Re: Integral nutrition

melv said Apr 27, 2007, 12:24 AM:

 

Which ILP kit do you refer to Eugene, do you mean that the model points to including those aspects (which of course it surely does) or is there a guidline in a kit i dont know about?

Yep i feel there must be a (quantifiable? measureable, certainly noticeable) way of taking into account the quality of food up the leayers of reality.

Physical - organic, chemical, mineral vitamin content etc

Subtle - energetic quality of food - Biodynamics works actively with this

Causal - thats where you're getting at?

Non-dual - well thats harder to pin down, the Kosmos its grown in, both micro and macro???

And these of course go for all quadrants, internal, social, quality and the economic and environmental systems.

This diagram is a humbly dabbling attempt to put the whole digestive process onto a diagram, as a starting point for investigating and approaching nutrition so as not to miss any vital elements (no pun intended).

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  melv : new father

Re: Integral nutrition

melv said Apr 27, 2007, 9:55 AM:

 

Does anybody know why i cant see Grey's post - is the pic too big? ooopz

  Grey : Integral Ideator (I-I)

Re: Integral nutrition

Grey said Apr 27, 2007, 12:47 AM:

 

Hi Melv,

Yeah, the diagram came through loud and clear this time, but maybe it's a little overbearing now.  It's covering up a part of your post and the reply buttons and stuff.  Maybe it would have been better to upload it somewhere (your photos page maybe) and link to it.  Oh well…

Anyway, the diagram looks interesting, but I'm not sure I understand it all that well.  Could you walk us through it so that we can better understand how it all fits together?

Thanks!

Grey

  Grey : Integral Ideator (I-I)

Re: Integral nutrition

Grey said Apr 27, 2007, 12:50 AM:

 

Hmmm… yeah, that diagram is definitely a problem now. It's covering up subsequent posts, too.  Any chance we can fix that?  Or is it just me and my browser (Firefox on a Mac)?

Cheers,
Grey

  Grey : Integral Ideator (I-I)

Re: Integral nutrition

Grey said Apr 27, 2007, 10:08 AM:

 

I guess it's not just me then. I don't remember, is it possible to edit your own posts? (It seems you can't but I can't keep track of all my various forums and blogs and stuff.)  If not, maybe you could contact Arthur and ask him to do something (unless he's tracking this thread already…).

Cheers,
Grey

  Eugene : (- . -)

Re: Integral nutrition

Eugene said Apr 29, 2007, 5:03 PM:

 

I'm talking about the ILP kit I-I sells.  It makes a suggestion to take these aspects into consideration but no guideline really.  There's just too much variation for one person that means eating kosher, for another it might mean eating vegan.

  melv : new father

Re: Integral nutrition

melv said Apr 30, 2007, 12:18 AM:

 

Absolutely. That person-centred approach, along with a healthy dose of balance and emphasis on enjoyment as well as 'right foods' (and and and…) is the only way to approach nutrition in a way that avoids unhealthy obsession and incorporates what is unique to each person. What i want to try and explore is the more universal elements that have been touched on in the above replies, the we, its and I quadrants, as well as the it.