Explore
Gaia Soulmates
down  About This Group
The Integral Pod

The Integral Pod (formerly I-I+Zaadz, or IIZ) is a discussion group (a.k.a. “pod”) for enthusiasts of the work of Ken Wilber and other proponents of integral thought. Our aim here is to provide a “We-space” for broad discussion of second-tier living, loving and learning. Please read our vision and guidelines – the ...(more)
down  About This Room
This is the place to discuss all things integral, at all levels, but with an emphasis on challenging ourselves and each other through the insights that Integral Theory can provide. [AQAL focus: upper-left (UL), individual/interior, inner transformation]
down  Room Activity
RLtruthseeker-artist : Integral Mysticism
RLtruthseeker-artist posted a reply to the conversation "Integral theory and Ethics" ()
RLtruthseeker-artist : Integral Mysticism
RLtruthseeker-artist posted a reply to the conversation "Integral theory and Ethics" ()
Tom : oceanslug
Tom posted a reply to the conversation "Integral theory and Ethics" ()
james : human
james posted a reply to the conversation "Integral theory and Ethics" ()
Tely : Truth Seeker
Tely posted a reply to the conversation "Integral theory and Ethics" ()
Tom : oceanslug
Tom posted a reply to the conversation "Integral theory and Ethics" ()
down  Group Grapevine
Grey : Integral Ideator (I-I)
Grey Link! Cool! :D (10 months ago)
Grey : Integral Ideator (I-I)
Grey Just testing URLs in the grapevine. This link will take you to Pelle's blog: http://is.gd/ixdm (I want to see if this gets converted to a link or if you have to copy and paste it.) (10 months ago)
Grey : Integral Ideator (I-I)
Grey Oof! Just saw this now, Siona.... Yeah, flutters I think it was... no, "flaps", but I don't like it much. "Flutter" was the name to replace "Grapevine". Anyway, I just used "tweets" here because it's more readily recognizable. :) (10 months ago)
 Advertising keeps Gaia free! Interested in sponsoring us?
Resultset_previousprevious thread | next threadResultset_next
threaded | unthreaded | newest first


  maxie : Zaadster

yer pal michael and the dragon rodeo

maxie said Jul 29, 2007, 10:52 PM:

 

Dear ones,

Follow the continuing adventures of yer pal Michael as he navigates the Z2 waters of the latest Walkerian blog-o-drama.  READ IT!!  If you haven't checked in, Julian's contribution led off and damned if it wasn't pretty informative and (wonders) agreeable stuff.

Delia followed with a very personal story that will make you think twice about running around looking for awakening unprepared.

Then Christiana went missing in action and now we have ME, the pope of dope hisself.

Warm yerself by the fire of Kundalini.  See naked snakes and scaly dragons writhe and coil about sparks flying from their variously toed feet.  Marvel at the personal revelations and ass-talking speculation.  Bow low before the sweet-talkin' power of love and comment your big, gracious hearts out.  I will do my best to attend.

http://mqs.zaadz.com/blog

best,
Michael

  Teenie~Dakini : ~.~  I have my moments  ~.~

Re: yer pal michael and the dragon rodeo

Teenie~Dakini said Jul 29, 2007, 11:35 PM:

 

Thanks Michael for the “hear ye, hear ye” scroll announcing the latest arrival in the Walkerian blog-o-drama :-)  I'll trot over to the main tent now….

With anticipation, (& mustard hot dog with soda pop)
~ Stacy

  Bill : practicioner & free

Re: yer pal michael and the dragon rodeo

Bill said Jul 30, 2007, 12:10 AM:

 

that's quite a story.

  Pelle : focusing

Re: yer pal michael and the dragon rodeo

Pelle said Jul 30, 2007, 3:30 AM:

 

Here's a permanent link to Michael's blog post.


Pelle

  maxie : Zaadster

Re: yer pal michael and the dragon rodeo

maxie said Jul 30, 2007, 9:23 AM:

 

Thanks Pelle,  I am such a luddite in these matters.

  Frans : Gone to the Dogs

Re: yer pal michael and the dragon rodeo

Frans said Jul 30, 2007, 2:50 PM:

 

“So much for plans.”

Thanks for sharing, Michael. I enjoyed it a lot!

Frans

  e : .

Re: yer pal michael and the dragon rodeo

e said Jul 31, 2007, 8:33 AM:

 


Michael: (from his blog)

Buddhism is more illusive to me….

I do know, that when Siddhartha came along, Hinduism had long-since passed the “flourish” phase and was mired in confusion, decadence, and impossibly complex ritual.  In a very real sense, Buddhism saved the great spiritual tradition that spawned Hinduism, as well as Hinduism itself, from totally going down the toilet.



Yeah, that is my feeling too. The Buddha pushed a lot of chi towards (proto) Hinduism by challenging their conventions etc and Hinduism had to respond.



M: Yet, I am drawn by the heart to Hinduism. It calls with a resonance that cannot be met, for me, by the more astringent, cooler, dryer “vibes” of Buddhism.



It is eventually cooler but not dry. It is 100% wet. The Buddha seemed to use kundalini energy in a very specific way. I was watching Julian's video, seeing the waves of energy flow thru the folks bodies and I thought, wow that looks a lot like the first jhana. The Buddha used this as a basis of Right Concentration. This kundalini (from what was shown, I am sure it goes further) appears to be the first jhana of Right Concentration. There are 7 more levels of concentration that get more subtle. I use the first jhana mainly on long retreats when the pain in the legs gets to be a bit unbearable. I will get the pleasant energy flowing in the body everywhere and take a ‘break' for a few minutes, then go back to whatever practice I was engaged in. I really don't like it much as it is a bit too disturbing to concentration for my taste, so I tend to avoid it altogether and go straight towards equanimity. One difference I see is that you don't need an external stimulus to get this energy going. In meditation you do this using directed focus and as you get more adept, you don't even need that. So, I can drop into this ecstatic state in any position, eyes open or closed etc. If there is more focus, the energy gets more pronounced and the body starts to move, etc.  Is this developed in Hinduism or are you dependent on external stimulus like in Julian's video? Lastly, where does this culminate? In moksha? How? Thanks for sharing Michael!!


love

e

  Julian : integral healer

Re: yer pal michael and the dragon rodeo

Julian said Jul 31, 2007, 9:40 AM:

 

hey everyone - mandala artist Sa'Rah's piece is the next up in the Zymposium - check it out here!

her story is so powerful…