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  Tely : Truth Seeker

Single Payer Healthcare System

Tely said Sep 7, 8:40 PM:
 

I just watched this excellent Bill Moyers episode about a single payer healthcare system.  Thought y'all might be interested.
  Tom : oceanslug

Re: Single Payer Healthcare System

Tom said Sep 7, 9:57 PM:
 

Looks interesting, Tely.  I worked a while in strategic planning for our local health authority.  I suggested to them if they want to cure rising health care costs, move to a system that pays for demonstrated health improvements, and that only.  The suggestion wasn't snapped up is one way of putting it.
  Jane : riversong

Re: Single Payer Healthcare System

Jane said Sep 7, 11:40 PM:
 

Were you serious, Tom? 
  Tom : oceanslug

Re: Single Payer Healthcare System

Tom said Sep 8, 6:14 AM:
 

Yes.  I made a pitch directly to the CEO.  I called it “interest management” in a bid to reign in particularly drug spending and rising doctor costs.  I suggested we set up a small trial system which would test the viability of the idea, a no-loss suggestion as payments out would depend on improvements to demonstrated and documented health indicators, these latter reducing health demand and thus payments out for an overall self-regulating system of financial flows.
  jacinda : yogadharma

Re: Single Payer Healthcare System

jacinda said Sep 8, 7:42 AM:
 

Namaste
Tely,
This Bill Moyers episode is one of my favorite debates on Health Care.
Quoted from (7:40):
DR. DAVID HIMMELSTEIN: That's the big problem here is people want to find a solution that they can get through without a big fight with the insurance industry. Unfortunately it's economically and medically nonsensical - you can't actually have a health care program that works, if you keep the insurance industry alive.
~Bill Moyers Journal
also this is good:
Bill Moyers: “We Should Be Treating Health As A Condition, Not A Commodity”   (video clip 5:18) The Huffington Post
First Posted: 09- 5-09 06:14 PM | Updated: 09- 5-09 06:32 PM

LOVE

Betsy
 

 
  maryw : ponderer

Re: Single Payer Healthcare System

maryw said Sep 8, 1:27 PM:
 

Howdy all –

For what it's worth, here is a link to an online petition sponsored by Kucinich and Conyers for a single-payer healthcare system – if you sign it, Kucinich will send it to your congressional representative –

http://healthcare.kucinich.us/petition/

Cheers,

Mary