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Re: UFOs

http://coolmel.gaia.com — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:46:54 GMT

continuing on this lenghty UFO thread...

just want to ask if anybody had noticed. is it just me or is Larry King has been obsessed with UFOs and aliens lately? http://bit.ly/3POnfM

"Have UFOs disabled U.S. defense systems? Wait until you hear what three former Air Force officers have to say. You won't believe the answer! The testimonies that could turn you into a believer. The evidence is in...tonight on Larry King Live!"

http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/

Re: UFOs

http://aqalicious.gaia.com — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 21:14:54 GMT

Soulplex: The only truly second-tier ufologist I know of is the great Jacques Vallee.

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Jacques Vallée interviewed by Daily Grail

Posted by David Pescovitz, July 17, 2008 1:24 PM | permalink

I previously posted that the good folks at Daily Grail republished the classic 1979 fortean book, "Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults," by my friend Jacques Vallée. (Jacques is a computer scientist, astrophysicist, UFO researcher, and the basis for the Lacombe character in Close Encounters of the Third Kind. He is also a past president former research director at Institute for the Future, where I am a researcher.) Today, the Daily Grail posted an interview with Jacques where he talks about the work that has made him a "heretic among heretics." From the interview:

TDG: When we look at ufology in the 1960s, versus today, I'm not sure a lot of progress has been made (perhaps even the opposite). Is ufology a sisyphean endeavour, unworthy of our prolonged attention? You've personally devoted almost 50 years of research and writing to exploring the phenomenon - can you give a simple opinion to the question: what is behind the UFO phenomenon?

Jacques Vallée: You’re asking me two different questions here. I have convinced myself that there was a real UFO phenomenon once the errors, hoaxes and occasional manipulations were screened out. We do know a great deal more today than we did just 10 years ago, thanks to dedicated researchers who have invested their time and resources to documenting the data. That is not as good as a serious scientific research effort, but one should never underestimate what can be achieved by motivated amateurs. This being said, it would be unrealistic to expect quick solutions, in this field as in any other scientific endeavor.

I have also been interested in the nature of consciousness, and that field has not gotten closer to a solution in fifty years either. Similarly, look at some of the lingering enigmas in archaeology, or in medicine: all we can do is document our data and hope someone will make sense of it at a later time.

Jacques Vallée interview (Daily Grail), Buy Messengers of Deception (Amazon)

Previously on BB:
• Jacques Vallée's Messengers of Deception

(Boing Boing)

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Re: UFOs

http://aqalicious.gaia.com — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:29:01 GMT

Jacques Vallée's Messengers of Deception

Posted by David Pescovitz, June 25, 2008 9:21 PM | permalink

This wonderful photo from the mid-1970s depicts a young man named John Shepherd who "established this UFO-detecting station in his grandparent’s home… His equipment includes radar, sonar, scanners, and homing devices which attempt to track the 'Aliens' he believes are studying the earth." The photo appears in a new, lightly-revised edition of my friend Jacques Vallée's classic 1979 book Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults. The rare book has just been republished by Daily Grail Publishing. From Fortean researcher Mark Pilkington's post on the Further blog about the book:

MOD is a fascinating examination of the UFO subculture’s sinister underbelly. Vallee considers the ways that the UFO mystery can be manipulated by those seeking to exert psychological and psychosocial control over marginal elements of society, and falls prey himself to the kind of controlled paranoia experienced by Robert Anton Wilson in his own Cosmic Trigger. Thirty years down the line we can see that Vallee was absolutely spot on with some of the concerns he expressed in MOD: amongst the groups he investigated were Bo and Peep, the ‘Mysterious Two’ who went on to lead the Heaven’s Gate suicides two decades later.

Jacques Vallée's Messengers of Deception on Amazon, Messengers of Deception at Further

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Re: UFOs

http://mqs.gaia.com — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 19:01:35 GMT

One more thing that I think is pertinent to this piece about the Western Judaeo/Christian/Masonic and Mayan lines of "future prediction" concerns the Cross of Hendaye. This cross was designed and built in "the 1600's" which is to say that no one knows for sure when it first appeared. Apparently, it stood in a graveyard for a couple hundred years and then was moved into a courtyard near non-descript buildings sometime in the 1800's.

What is interesting and pertinent is that whoever constructed the cross was privy to the "secrets of time." Bringing Nostradamus (the plagiarist) into the discussion, well, he was an alchemist and writer (or so claimed many) whose quatrains detailed a long sequence of events supposedly culminating in apocalyptic events that were/are to proceed the western notion of Judgment Day.

It is curious that the timing of Nostradamus's work came after Portugese and Spanish adventures into central and South America. Presumably, the conquistadores encountered the Mayan calendar and its priestly class of scientist/shamans. It is likely that this calendar knowledge returned to Europe with the Vatican's emmissaries who traveled to the new world. Outside of Nostradamus's "predictions" which were largely "modified" from many other people's works, the only outstanding reference to deep time "calendars' is this Cross of Hendaye.

What is significant about the Cross of Hendaye, is that it uses symbology and time cycle references in its various carvings that connect directly to the Mayan Calendar's symbology. In other words, it is as if the Cross of Hendaye was specifically constructed by a very knowledgeable Masonic adept (perhaps) as a testament or "imprimatur" that consciously establishes concurrence with the Western occult tradition about "time" and the change of the ages with the Mayan depictions of same.

What is suggested is that the Western tradition as represented by the secret accumulations of esoteric "knowledge" by the Knights Templar and as maintained by their associates the Masons, corresponded exactly with the Mayan tradition and that the Cross of Hendaye was built to honor this concurrence. Thus, the two streams of "time consciousness" which bifurcated from the Himalayas some 30-40K years ago- one going north and east across the Bering Strait, the other going south and west through old Europe and into Egypt came back together in this graveyard in the Basque region of Southern France at the hand of an unknown but deeply heads-up Mason.

Particularly irritating in this time of global political hoo-doo-ism is the undeniable fact that the Vatican has known about this for at least 400 years and never once alluded to it except to de facto promote the fear-oriented apocalyptic-judgment-day terror campaign we see playing itself out worldwide. Hmmm . . .

best,
Michael

Re: UFOs

http://mqs.gaia.com — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:27:21 GMT

hmmmm, . . . less of the same and more of the new seems like the path to me.

Re: UFOs

http://rickholden76.gaia.com — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 00:46:04 GMT

I see. It sounded like you might have gotten that from a researcher or book, I didn't know it was you that connected these dots.

"I will leave it to you to do your own reading on these matters, and come to your own conclusions, but one thing is sure for me: despite my healthy doubts and skepticism about all of this stuff, my plausibility-oriented shit detector says cleary to me that, one way or the other, we are in for quite a ride."

So more of the same then? Cool.

ichun

Re: UFOs

http://mqs.gaia.com — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:45:21 GMT

Holden,

Michael: "This coming time, 2012, has been predicted by several disparate mytho-archaic traditions, as THE time for the come-uppance of man or the transition from the iron age into the golden age (cue the ", , , peace will guide the planets and love will rule the stars.") "

Holden: Really? Which ones? It seems strange that archaic traditions would use a time reference that is both European and Christian.
Can you point me toward your source material, because this sounds made up, thanx.
P.S. I'm not saying that your making anything up.

Hmmm . . . source materials? If you can accept that I usually come from an "it seems to me" approach to life and that "it seems to me" is loaded with an accumulating pile of references that stretches back some 60 years into the corners and alleyways of my life, IF, you can accept that I am not expecting that you believe me, or take anything that I might have to say on trust or faith or any other unspoken bargain, then I will try to unpack, in a general way, the sources of my current operating conclusion about what surrounds the notion of profound change in the zeitgeist, that is nominally occurring right now and is claimed by some to peak in 2012. Ok?

First there is the Mayan Calendar, a 5K yr old instrument of deep time coordination that "predicts" or announces its own "end" on 12/21/12. There are many books written about this that cover the range from fanciful, to bullshit, to high-end scholarship. The high-end, presented by John Major Jenkins and others in several relevant works, has been vindicated by strict astronomical expertise to be virtually accurate in that the Mayan "timing" is near spot on with recent sophisticated observtions of the celestial parade. The Mayan "timing" does seem to coincide with both the 26K yr cycle of the earth's axial wobble factor and the point in time when the solar system crosses the galactic equator as it fluxes back and forth above and below this relatively precise plane.

This Mayan perspective is corroborated by Incan mythology about a time (now) according to Incan shamans, when the potentials inherent in man will manifest in a transformation of homeo sapiens into the "illuminated" version of homo sapiens - (can't remember the term the shamans use for it right now)

Western mythology along the (very broadly defined) Christian lines includes Judaeo/Christian and Egyptian/pre-Hellenic Greek storylines. Though derivative of Vedic/Hindu roots, this western tradition includes a "masonic" factor about the secret nature of "time" that has been carried primarily in esoterica from the Egyptian root.

Essentially, it seems that the Western "connection" includes both the overt, Apocalyptic/Armageddon Judgment Day tangle with Kabbalistic, Hermetic, Masonic lines. Together, they comprise a daunting tangle of the mythic, the archaic, the esoteric, and the akashic lines. Overall, it is a vexacious bunch of stuff. Nevertheless, out of this tangle comes a few very consistent threads - something about time is not what it seems to be, and, in both the western and amerind traditions, there is this notion about a "judgment day" kind of "moment" when mankind will take some form of relatively immediate evolutionary step.

Though "western" mythology is derivative of the Vedic/Hindu line (imo) the Vedic/Hindu line came first. Some suppose that the migration of humans across the Bering Strait some 30K years ago was originated in the Himalayas and connected that way to the origins of the Vedic line. Thus, from the perspective of oral tradition, it is possible that all of these lines share some of the same roots in time and that they did not necessarily develop by themselves in isolation. Considering that, it is possible that the whole architecture of the mytho-archaic is somehow derivative of a single source which would complicate the authenticity of it as it may have been bogus to begin with. But more on that later.

Even assuming that all of these disparate lines had a single source, the Mayan prediction about the timing of the wobble and the galactic equator are so friggin' accurate as to bugger the imagination as to how they pulled it off. One thing is downright clear: either they knew something that had been carried forth from deep time (or was handed to them via ET sources) or they observed their way to it as a result of not being so friggin' distracted from it by all the modern claptrap that we have currently do deal with. Either way, they (the Mayans) virtualy nailed the timing using only observation and crude (by our standards) instruments that have only lately been verified by our more "sophisticated" obsevational and calculation tools. What this suggests is that they were not only prescient in observation of the heavens, they had to be just as observant about the flow of changes on the human and planetary cycle levels. This same observational expertise has been a part of the human experience overall and validates, imo, the utility of astrology as a psychological science based solely on the "as above, so below" discipline.

The astrological perspective is the most contentious to deal with and I will not attempt to wind it into this overview except to say that astrologers generally, have been pointing to this "change in the ages" piece for some time and many have pointed to this "alignment" event as the entre to the age of Aquarius and so on.

Going back to the synchronous nature of these disparate lines, one western source is hard to dismiss from legitimate conjecture. That is the Masonic tradition which, fully unpacked, carries a profound message about "sacred" geometry, the nature of time, and the sudden, domaine change that "consciousness" in humans is both capable of and imminent.

To wit, "The Cross of Hendaye" and the unpacking of its symbology by a guy named Fulcanelli. Fulcanelli wrote a treatise about time and other things from the "alchemical" perspective back in the middle '20's of the last century. The book just "appeared" in stores in France and then, just later, another edition appeared that detailed Fulcanelli's (a pseudonym as the guy was downright mysterious) contemplations on the Cross of Hendaye.

I will leave it to you to do your own reading on these matters, and come to your own conclusions, but one thing is sure for me: despite my healthy doubts and skepticism about all of this stuff, my plausibility-oriented shit detector says cleary to me that, one way or the other, we are in for quite a ride.

best,
Michael

Re: UFOs

http://aqalicious.gaia.com — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 22:01:32 GMT

Soulplex: The only truly second-tier ufologist I know of is the great Jacques Vallee. He recently came out of “hiding,” so to speak, with an appearance on Coast to Coast AM in September and by giving the keynote talk at a conference in Las Vegas in October about his involvement in US military remote-viewing research. I blogged about him here, along with a little explanation of why I think he's an integral thinker. I'd be interested to see what you all think of it.

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Hi Tom and all

For easy reference, here are links to all the parts of the Coast to Coast show you mention, which is posted on Youtube in twelve parts.

Jacques Vallee Coast to Coast interview Part One

Jacques Vallee Coast to Coast interview Part Two

Jacques Vallee Coast to Coast interview Part Three

Jacques Vallee Coast to Coast interview Part Four

Jacques Vallee Coast to Coast interview Part Five

Jacques Vallee Coast to Coast interview Part Six

Jacques Vallee Coast to Coast interview Part Seven
Jacques Vallee Coast to Coast interview Part Eight

Jacques Vallee Coast to Coast interview Part Nine

Jacques Vallee Coast to Coast interview Part Ten

Jacques Vallee Coast to Coast interview Part Eleven

Jacques Vallee Coast to Coast interview Part Twelve

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Re: UFOs

http://rickholden76.gaia.com — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 17:26:22 GMT

Michael: "This coming time, 2012, has been predicted by several disparate mytho-archaic traditions, as THE time for the come-uppance of man or the transition from the iron age into the golden age (cue the “, , , peace will guide the planets and love will rule the stars.”) "

Really? Which ones? It seems strange that archaic traditions would use a time reference that is both European and Christian.
Can you point me toward your source material, because this sounds made up, thanx.
P.S. I'm not saying that your making anything up.

Re: UFOs

http://rickholden76.gaia.com — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 07:33:19 GMT

"What do you think of this topic? Is it a modern mythology, a technological twist on the same prerational, magical/mythic forms of thinking that have given us gods and goblins throughout the ages? Or is there something to it - something that defies reduction to naïve cultural projections? "

I wouldn't say it's magical thinking, but it is a culturally defined way of expressing oneself. We can see that as the themes of what a UFO is, their relations to either the government or aliens, and what aliens might look like; these are translated into popular culture and what people report over time has changed to coencide with these wider cultural changes.
But, that begs the question, what is the stress factor or cause of UFO's in the first place? We could say that they are true to their names and are, in fact, unidentified objects. The mind will fill in the blanks of the unknown, and it will do so in culturally relavent and acceptable ways. People see shit that they can't explain, while other people make shit up. There could be aliens. It could be all three.
It isn't nice to say, but people lie, and we most often lie to ourselves. It is when we are really honest with ourselves, that we are able to share our humanity and that which connects all of us. It is in our own brutle honesty that we can better understand the common elements of all of our personal and collective narratives. It is at this point that people will tell you to get out of their heads, as if their mental images are actually personal and private.
If ya'll knew just how easily you were the products conscious and unconscious manipulation, getting out of bed in the mornings wouldn't seem like such a good idea.
(kind of getting off the subject, but it needed to be said)

Here we see one more example where Integral theory suffers for a lack of a culture theory. People of various stages of development will find different slices of their wider cultures more relavent for explanation and stereotype than others, but these mental images have nothing to do with the actual memes themselves. God and angels aren't automatic or indigenous mental forms to a blue meme, after all what is a blue meme?

Is: "but was of course only an optical illusion – which resulted in a worldspread wave of fear being injected into the populations of the world, leading inexorably, to eventually to a (secret) war on a global scale which benefits an ultra secret group of few very powerful men controlling everything, and especially YOU, and your family and your bank account … but it is possible.

This is all supported by modern quantum science of course. The evidence for this is simply astounding."

That's good shit! Thanx for making me laugh. I'm gonna use that one in the future.

ichun

Re: UFOs

http://Mascha.gaia.com — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 06:44:00 GMT

So I rushed home from a little Saturday night gathering with friends to get back to you who are contributing to this thread. Cuz this is rich -- so many flavors being added just today, in one afternoon.

And where is Balder? I'm secretly hoping you'll also come back to add more of what you've gathered about these phenomena so far.

Frans and Larissa, you bring what I'm asking, hoping, longing for -- the attitude of open-minded eagerness to be shown more of what is out there and in here than conventional wisdom would allow.

Eugene, I loved the whole tenor of your post. For me too, the interest in E.T.s is a matter of having had one undeniable sighting (a very large cigar-shaped craft seen in broad daylight in India with a group of about 25 people from various nations - all of them certifiably sane :) After that, my intuition led to various research projects over the years which have me, at this point, convinced that what I saw that day as a teen was not man-made for a number of reasons -- one being that the sudden flight acceleration of that utterly silent, otherworldly silver marvel would have killed a human pilot instantly.

Michael, you've probably gone further in your explorations than anyone of us here. I'm still feeling my way into what you said in your last several posts. So far, I've studiously avoided the New Age, 2012, Mayan calendar branch of this wild and woolly UFO tree. But I'm open to it now that you're bringing this aspect to the table.

m

Re: UFOs

http://nyneve.gaia.com — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 03:06:13 GMT

Hi Mascha,

I am afraid I will not say anything as interesting as you guys have been saying on this topic. Simply, I have nothing to say on the subject itself.

I chimed in because of what you said about being "trapped in vestiges of the consensus world-view". I can relate to that. But as for UFOs, ETs - I was not into that, meaning I did not follow the discussions - not here - but in general. I did not think about and make that decision consciously, it sort of happened: UFO appears to me to be a complicated discussion that would require investigations, study, etc. I guess I was not interested enough, or had other things occupying me... Or was influenced by the "image" that only lunatics talk about UFOs, but if there is anything substantial then it would require being a specialist and access to special information or at least a personal encounter.

All in all - this was not my most burning problem. :-) Still is not. Maybe I am not aware of the seriousness of this subject... I might look more into this thread, I was already thinking if I should check out the sources and books mentioned. But again, I have so many books on my list already which for me are more important now, and there are other things to do... But then again, I find myself following this thread and exploring it bit by bit, so one never knows… I will see how this will develop and what comes up.

And last thing. A bit of a personal story, I mentioned part of it on Bill's thread about the Moon and Mars conjunction.
When I was a child I spent hours on the roof of our house watching the stars, dreaming about ETs. I loved SiFi books on space travel and read anything I could find. I "studied" astronomy - well basics - when I was 11-12. By 13 I decided that I will be an astro physicist and made a plan how I will achieve that. And I even implemented the first step: at 14 I applied and was admitted to a technical school in the nearest big city - I lived in a tiny village in Ukraine - where I believed I will strengthen my math and physics so that I could pass the exams to the University. But that was also the end of that dream. For a number of reasons I could not study in that school and I returned back home in a few months.

But maybe this longing for stars, for space travel, this wish for meeting ETs was in fact mistaken for the other longing – for “spiritual” travel (for lack of a better name)? And I got to that a few years ago and hope to be making some progress, if slowly. And in this respect what you said resonated with me in that I feel and see clearly me being "trapped" and although I make consistent efforts to do something about it, I am not there and it once in a while "frustrates" me. I was glad to be reminded again, i.e. to remember - with your help - again.

Larissa

Re: UFOs

http://eugene.gaia.com — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:18:14 GMT

>>First off, Eugene… Interesting link you gave. Unfortunately, I haven't the expertise to assess the merits of the article you found convincing enough to cast doubt on the Columbia shuttle footage. Well, at least the author didn't conclude we are looking at swamp gas. Just what are his qualifications as a space camera equipment expert, though? I still don't know.

Hey Mascha,

That's true, the site doesn't exactly strike me as credible. Not to say that it isn't, just doesn't seem "professional. The explanations given just seem like reasonable possibilities. The hypthosis of the article was we don't really know because not enough information has been released. I don't mean to rain on anyones sense of awe. I personally believe in extra terrestrials. It makes sense to me on a statistical and intuitive level and I've experienced a UFO sighting in Mexico( have I mentioned that already? ). I just like to take sightings on a case by case level.

On a sidenote: Are you Russian Mascha?

Re: UFOs

http://mqs.gaia.com — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 02:16:38 GMT

Dear M,

So sorry, thought that you might know. 2012, the year, is the approximate time when our part of the galaxy (our solar system and sun in particular) will drift across the equatorial plane of the galaxy. It is as if you were standing near the equator of the earth and slowly inched your way across it. This coming time, 2012, has been predicted by several disparate mytho-archaic traditions, as THE time for the come-uppance of man or the transition from the iron age into the golden age (cue the ", , , peace will guide the planets and love will rule the stars.") No one knows for sure what all might happen during this time. Clearly, things are happening - the "urgency" thing for instance, and the rate of innovation, and whatever the hell is up with this "global warming" piece, and what is up with the burgeoning of awareness shared by so many across the planet.

This equatorial crossing pulls us into the galactic zone that, like our own equator here on earth, is characterized by a fairly sharp transition between the direction that vortices circulate in the electromagnetosphere. Simply, what may happen is that the positive and negative orientation of the poles may suddenly flip or switch. This may cause the way that water spins in a toilet bowl to reverse direction. It may also cause a difference in the way that tornados and cyclones, and hurricanes spin in each their separate hemispheres. These are potential gross level manifestations of what might change. However, the electro-magneto-gravitational arena is relatively far more subtle and the really profound and noticeable changes may occur in the subtle, like the psyche. Ok? Basic consensus concepts that are dense with shaky rationalizations, like "time" for instance, may just fall away as we encounter a more higly evolved sense of what time really is. Another is the notion of what the ego is. If we are densely aligned with the ego as a marker of "self" and we are deeply attached to achievement and wealth as represented by knowledge and a bunch of constructs, these dense, "spiritual" materials, may not survive no matter how strongly we are attached to them. Such attachments might be sundered in the blast of the new. This could be extraordinarily painful and fearful if we haven't "got into the program" before the crunch is on. Imo, the "crunch" is on, like you say, and the program is to let go of anything that will not fit through the "eye of the needle" which is to say that spiritual "achievements" and knowledge not incorporated into capability, are not going to help. To be free in the moment is to live "capable" in the flow, responding spontaneously and correctly out of intuition, emotional maturity, and faith, than deductively and empirically from the captain's chair of self.

Hmmmm . . . there is more but I am out of time for the moment.

big love,
Michael

Re: UFOs

http://Mascha.gaia.com — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 01:30:44 GMT

Wow, lot's of meaty stuff to sink more teeth into here.

First off, Eugene... Interesting link you gave. Unfortunately, I haven't the expertise to assess the merits of the article you found convincing enough to cast doubt on the Columbia shuttle footage. Well, at least the author didn't conclude we are looking at swamp gas. Just what are his qualifications as a space camera equipment expert, though? I still don't know.

Michael,

where to begin? When I serve up a light lunch, you come back with a six course set of entrées! Is it too much to ask for a brief explanation of what you mean by "crossing the galactic plane/ equator"? I honestly don't have a clue what that might entail.

Down-to-earth, practical Hausfrau type here,

m

Re: UFOs

http://onthetrail.gaia.com — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:46:17 GMT

I'll give my 2 cents worth here too.

It makes no sense at all to even assume he posibility that our planet could be the only one sustaining intelligent life. It makes much more sense (to me at least) to assume that Life created us - and that all the other life forms "out there" are manifestations of the endless potential that Life is. In the end, all these manifestations are part of one and the same Life, living out different parts in one big play with the same direction: growing consciousness.

It makes sense to me that, once we've reached a certain level of awareness, we will start integrating more and more with different players in this game of Life...and of course the "powers that be" would not want to even contemplate that - it threatens their positions too much...

Frans

Re: UFOs

http://mqs.gaia.com — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 23:20:33 GMT

Mascha dear,

I big Aiiieeeyyyaaahhh! to all of that! Now where's my damn seeds button. . . ?

Mascha: "And why is penetrating this collective 'numbness', this energetic shield against multidimensional awareness, so important? I ask myself this freshly today. Why do I feel it is imperative for humans to allow themselves a more open-ended contemplation of subtle realms and their inhabitants at this time? I feel an urgency here. It sure feels like more than just human or planetary survival depends on allowing this particular shift."

I feel this "urgency" too. I imagine that many of us do. When feeling urgent, I am inclined to take action even if it is not in the direction of my urgency. Let's say that I am feeling urgent about the self-doubt that arises when I think about the whole ET thing for instance. You know, that "not knowing feeling?" About something that is both mysterious and evident?

The best I can do today as I feel the play of consciousness across the globe coming to me through my doors or the web, is be amazed at the beauty coming off these pages or out the window when my attention is held there, or hang in there with the self-doubt that arises when the pictures are not so pretty. I mean, ET's are cool with their flight suits, but what if they're all just pretending to be so agreeable and discrete? Ah, now there is an exterior source for self-doubt that will take a bit of work.

One thing we seem to know for sure is that ego densifies things. "Dense" but subtle "things," like the egomaniacal psyche - full of pride-of-knowedge, concoctions, artifice, and sham, are susceptible to profound change if significant subtle-field changes come to characterize our passage across the galactic equator. There may be changes in the gross realm as well - already are if you consider global warming and the profoundly increasing rate of innovation as markers.

How can we be present, open-mindedly communing with both the subtle and gross, while allowing (this takes lots of practice) the confusion of egoic density and all the shadow it contains to spill its guts out on the street in front of us as this time quickens to change?

Transparent we must become, enlightened, free of the congestions of egoic density - not the blessed ego though, for ego, as an attention-focusing tool only, provides us balance in the moment by allowing our curiosity to focus by bringing the lens of our perception to what it is we seek to imbibe or transclude. Its just that so much has been attached to the ego - it has come to mean the self itself. I contend that most of that self is a self-ish relationship with knowledge as stuff - a hoarded acquisition loaded with self-doubt. Thus, the capability to focus, (ego) becomes identified with all the stuff it has focused on and stored as "fact," lies, and habit. What it is not focused on, as a consequence of carrying the burden of pride-of-knowledge, is the Source from which all arisen - the diviner of ego and beauty, which, curiously enough (heh heh) is ourselves if we are truly willing to take full responsibility for exactly where we are. That, imo, is the present, and if the present is full of self-doubt, then stay right there and use the blessed ego to just penetrate right through it.

Our "densities" will unwind and the blessed emotions there confounded will unshadow and we will know them as if for the first time and, with help, they will alchemize to curiosity, choice, acceptance, tolerance, allowance, vulnerability, availability, intention and vision and surrender. So doing, we will learn to live capable of manifesting the God-like gifts that are our true inheritance.

Ahem.

loving me loving you,
Michael

Re: UFOs

http://Mascha.gaia.com — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:56:29 GMT

Hi there, Larissa - Nyneve,

thank you for chiming in so chipperly (if that's a word). But now I'm curious. Anything you'd like to say about UFOs and how you would deal with it if some of the purported E.T. visitors are as real and influential as the most credible witnesses in that already fairly illustrious roster we've got so far say?

Friendly waves across the ocean and a smooth slide into the new year!

m

Re: UFOs

http://eugene.gaia.com — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:47:42 GMT

>>Thanks for clarifying your request, Eugene. Maybe this will be helpful. I googled the words “Space Shuttle Columbia tether UFOs” and came up with pages worth of relevant links. Let us know if you find the verification you're looking for, will you?

I've been trying to get the nasa page on STS-75 to load with no avail. From what I've gathered, they claim it was ice particle activity? I'm not to familiar with the physics of that so I can't really say either way.

I did find an interesting article on the camera artifacts present in the shot. For one, the tether is only a couple centimeters thick. The thickness you see in the shot is a very big distortion. Also when they zoomed into the flying dots and they were hollow spheres. The hollow center is also apparently a common distortion of likely cameras used. It can go either way in my POV. There is alot of reasonable information to back up both views.

http://www.rense.com/general/stsd.htm

Re: UFOs

http://nyneve.gaia.com — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:15:11 GMT

Hi Mascha,

>> again about the extent to which we are still trapped in vestiges of the consensus world-view

Thank you for the reminder!

Nyneve