How to introduce Spiral Dynamics to developing nations?

hi everyone,

not sure what board to post this so feel free to move it to the appropriate board if this is not the right place to start this thread :)

here are my question: how do we introduce the concept of Spiral Dynamics to a country? who are the right people to contact? what are the steps to take? what certifications are required?

i'm asking because i'm planning to introduce/spread the Spiral Dynamics model (SDI to be exact) to some of the progressive thinkers in the Philippines (i.e. think of it as our local version of TED) :)

thanks for your help!

~C

Re: How to introduce Spiral Dynamics to developing nations?

A very good question.  SDi has not solved this riddle yet.

I will do myself Level 1, 2, 3 this year. As Nodes of SDi are already establsihing there is a lack of innovative collaboration. Prpearing and supporting emrgence and launch of German CHE this year I will re-adress these issues.

Thousands of seminar goers have done the seminars. However I am asking:

What do they give to the constellation? And how is the constellation shaped? There are Core groups which are not significantly linked to more public discussions.

I consider this year as test drive for me and will simultaneously do the seminars and add some collaboration. No matter what form then..Purpose and fuction rule.

So simply ask at www.spiraldynamics.net

Best,

Albert

Re: How to introduce Spiral Dynamics to developing nations?

Hi ~C!

Great question! Albert is right that this is very uncharted territory. I guess the first answer is: start where you are. What are the groups that you are in contact with. The other question (might seem silly or obviou) is: WHY do you want to do this? What is the goal to be achieved?

I have mixed experiences with trying to introduce tools unless they are the answer to a clearly expressed need. So the first question might be: What is the clearly expressed need in the target community (progressive thinkers?) in the Philippines that Spiral Dynamics Integral would satisfy?

Re: How to introduce Spiral Dynamics to developing nations?

Albert, Yeshe,

thanks for your immediate reply and feedback.

i've sent a more detailed message to Albert regarding this. (Albert, feel free to forward it to Yeshe).

my own personal intention at this time is to spread the model of SDi to influential people in the Philippines (i.e. politicians, celebrities, business people, etc.). the long term vision is to be able to use the model (in actual practice) to guide public policies, corporate businesses, religious organizations, conflict resolutions (e.g. the fightng between Christians and Muslims in the South), etc.

similar to the Middle East, i think that a developing nation like the Philippines would be a good case study to test the SDi model and see if its implementation can be replicated in other developing nations.

that's my thinking at this time.

~C

Re: How to introduce Spiral Dynamics to developing nations?

QUESTION:  How do you see SDi as being useful in developing nations?

I can see how SDi is or can be a useful tool for communicating the challenge of obtaining truly integral results but how do you see that helping a developing nation?  That appears to me to only provide a means for not trusting anyone and/or determining how falible people are.  Even the people who reach the higher tiers are still demonstrated to have non-integral qualitites.  Without accurate information how can anyone do the right thing?  How can demonstrating the true depth of human insanity help a nation that is attempting to overcome the results of that insanity?

In other words, how do you see SDi as transcending fascistic tendancies?

Where is the “integrity” in that endeavor?

Thanks!

Re: How to introduce Spiral Dynamics to developing nations?

“How do you see SDi as being useful in developing nations?”

excellent question. SDi is a conceptual tool (a useful map) which can be used for good or bad. for example, politicans, religious leaders, and even business people can use the SDi model to serve their own cause.

my quick answer is that it boils down to intention. if people want to do good in society (e.g. from a leadership, political, religious, economic standpiont), then the SDi model is a very useful conceptual tool to expand the perspectives of those who are taking action. in this sense, SDI is useful in guiding public policy making, business practices, conflict resolutions, etc.

as a more concrete case in point, check out how Don Beck is using the SDi model on The Middle East.

Hard Truths and Fresh Start: A Bold, Comprehensive, and Integral Strategy for the Middle

~C

Re: How to introduce Spiral Dynamics to developing nations?

Okay, let me see if I can answer my own questions.  You see, in my mind there do not appear to be very many examples of where SDi has provided actual positive documentable “results” and therefore from a business sense may not appear to be very viable economically.  Are you mostly saying that by using SDi as a dialogic tool then OTHER THINGS can be accomplished that might not necessarily be attributed to SDi?  Might SDi be more like a magic wand or something where people do not really see either the wand or the magician?

It appears to me that SDi may be kind of like a computer operating system that enables people to run programs like Photoshop and Final Cut Pro but does not necessarily get the credit for what those programs actually produce.  Or, to put it differently, it might be like a blue or first-tier person doing things in a humble and humane way and having an ultimate turquoise or third-tier effect but not getting recognized as such.  Or, I totally read every issue of “What is Enlightenment” magazine and agree that they know what they are talking about however I don't personally know anyone else who reads the magazine nor do I see very many people whom I would consider to be enlightened.  However, the magazine HAS helped me to explain certain concepts better albeit I would probably not credit the magazine for any specific thought that I had in regard to my personal understanding of things.

So, might there be a type of paradox or esoteric puzzle involved with SDi?

Do any of these analogies work in this sense from your perspective?

Re: How to introduce Spiral Dynamics to developing nations?

Profound, dear Profundity!

I think you have hit a nail squarely on the head. And it's a point of pain - I intuit - for Don Beck, that his work doesn't get the recognition it deserves, while on the one hand others run off claiming authorship for acts which couldn't have happened without the SDi insights, and on the other our great pandits like Ken Wilber belittle the model and roll it off into a corner to make way for their own, more all-encompassing ones… Or so it sometimes seems.

Another question is - does any one person, model, approach or action get to claim the credit for DOING IT in a world which is as complex as this? Can we small brains on sticks really claim to know and design the future of evolution? Or can we rather participate in its unfolding, notice what seems to be working (often something to do with connecting to our sense of authenticity and having the courage to engage directly with life) and sense together into what needs doing next?

These, in any case, are the questions I'm grappling with in my neck of the woods.

Re: How to introduce Spiral Dynamics to developing nations?

C4Chaos, thanks for the link and Yeshe perhaps this works as a response to you as well? 

It appears that getting certain people to talk and/or dialogue is a GREAT step toward resolution because as someone somewhere on GAIA mentioned (paraphrased to the best of my ability from potentially faulty memory), “If there is EVER a disagreement of any kind by any two specific people or groups then then BOTH (or all) people need to learn something, either one person needs to learn how to explain themselves better, or, someone needs to learn-how-to-learn better, or, perhaps both by both people or groups.”  If you can't find that quote then by all means attribute it to me, a non-entity, or, if you truly think that you understand it then simply integrate it into your thinking process and allow it to pervade your WORK.

;o)

I did not notice such an intentional learning factor or process in SDi.  Might I have missed something that has to do with the fact or at least the seeming-to-me obvious necessity that learning MUST take place in order to resolve ANY issue?  Obviously if any person or group is stuck in their particular position or particular expression/languaging of their position, that may have different translations or interpretations than the seemingly obvious ones, then the challenge of learning how to express oneself ever more effectively or to a deeper degree of subtle complexity so as to nudge the stucked element or aspect would seem to me to be paramount.

What do you think?