Gaia: Integral Life Practice tag:gaia.com,2008,:Gaia http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/discussions/feeds/pod/96 en-us 20 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:05:06 GMT Gaia: Integral Life Practice Re: Terry Patten discussing ILP on the GIA http://voyager.gaia.com Albert tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-475988 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 17:05:06 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/475496#475988 <p> I enjoyed listening to the tal and commented it <a href="http://voyager.gaia.com/blog/2009/8/existence-and-the-miracle">here..</a><br />Terry is pointing to the ultimate mystery, the the miracle and the vast unknown universe every relative existence is embedded in. Even beyond all cross traning. Nevertheless making good use of it.<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />Albert </p> Terry Patten discussing ILP on the GIA http://davybuoy.gaia.com davybuoy tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-475496 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:07:17 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/475496 <p> Terry Patten was on an online radio interview with Craig Hamilton, as a part of *The Great Integral Awakening.* over the weekend. The talk entitled <strong>&quot;Integral Life Practice -</strong> Bringing New Intelligence to the School of Life&quot; is available from this <a href="http://www.greatintegralawakening.com/" target="_blank">link</a> which requires a free registration. There are a number of other talks (14 in total) which might be of interest to ILP&#39;ers although the emphasis of most is on the spirit module, </p> Re: HERO’s ILP http://davybuoy.gaia.com davybuoy tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-471798 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:26:20 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/471152#471798 <p> Hello Heinz / Hero,<br /><br />Thank you for sharing your ILP. I am curious to know which practice you feel is benefiting you the most and is it in an area you consider to be a strength and enjoy working in, or is it an area of relative weakness and struggle.<br /><br />Best Wishes,<br /><br />David </p> HERO’s ILP http://heinzrobert.gaia.com Heinz tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-471152 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 15:25:09 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/471152 <p> Mind: Reading integral books and books about Conscious Business, studying the AQAL framework<br /><br />Body: Yoga, Workout, Dancing, Cranial Electro Stimulation, conscious breathing, conscious nutrition<br /><br />Spirit: Meditation, Holosync, Awareness<br /><br />Sexuality: breathing<br /><br />Shadow:&nbsp;coaching with friends, journaling<br /><br />Why I do it? Because it is good for me and everybody </p> Re: Intro http://shiatsurob.gaia.com Midnightfire tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-470821 Tue, 18 Aug 2009 08:25:55 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/403297#470821 <p> Davybuoy,<br /><br />Ages since I posted. I read the book and found it very interesting and inspiring. On the Shadow element I found the 3-2-1 Shadow process very helpful and have used it on a number of occasions. I found it especially useful, in unpacking peoples emotional reactions to stuff as well as mine to theirs. It makes it easy to discuss why people are behaving inexplicably if you break it downto what are their real needs here, what wants are they really expressing under all that bluster? This combined with mindfulness has helped me greatly. I found 3-2-1 shadow useful when dealing with issues I had with one of my teachers. This guy used to just get my back up for no reason. I used to get incredibly angry with him. I now am able to deal with hime and relate on a even keal.<br />Great tools in this book I have to say. </p> Re: Hello http://davybuoy.gaia.com davybuoy tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-413325 Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:47:59 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/391089#413325 <p> Hi JP,<br /><br />Welcome to the group. I am definitely spreading my self to thinly, more with the depth I am taking on rather than number of modules. I am kidding myself there really too many modules too.<br /><br />It would be great if you would post an introduction and let us know what your steady ILP was at the end of your experiment, also have you kept it up?<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Davybuoy </p> Re: Hello http://jupsa.gaia.com jpjako tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-411929 Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:37:38 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/391089#411929 <p> Hi D, <br /><br />I have had similar experiences with the initial implementation of ILP having a negative affect. I kept a blog (in Finnish) of my 366-day ILP experiment, and suffice it to say that adversities became - alongside with many revelations - my second name. The shock to the system accustomed to homeostasis is big indeed, especially if trying to implement more than one module at a time. S<br /><br />JP. </p> Re: Intro http://davybuoy.gaia.com davybuoy tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-404224 Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:56:49 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/403297#404224 <p> Midnightfire,<br /><br />Thanks for taking the time to introduce yourself, my own experience is that shadow work seems to be the most neglected of the main modules. I know from our PM's that you have ordered the ILP book, let us know if you are inspired to add any other practices after reading the book.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Davybuoy<br /> </p> Intro http://shiatsurob.gaia.com Midnightfire tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-403297 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:53:05 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/403297 <p> this is the 3rd time I've tried to write this so keeping it extra short!<br /><br /><br /><br />Body: Cycling, yoga, 18 stance qi gung, shiatsu, walking,&nbsp;climbing.<br /><br /><br /><br />Mind: I am a third year Shiatsu student so lots of chinese medicine theory etc. ALso any reading around buddhism, occult, self development etc I can lay my hands on.<br /><br /><br /><br />Shadow: OK noty alot of this I used to journal alot when I was doing The Artists WAy and found it helpful. There is a certain amount of self exploration necessary in becoming a shiatsu practitioner in order to avoid projeting ant issues.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Spirit: Meditation and the odd spotaneous ritual, also getiing married shortly and that is proving to be a spiritual exploration and quite profound too as we work together with our inter faith minister!<br /><br /><br /><br />ok that it gonna post before I lose&nbsp;it again!<br /><br /><br /><br />Midnightfire<br /> </p> 3-Body Workout Video Clips http://davybuoy.gaia.com davybuoy tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-395449 Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:02:01 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/395449 <p> The following <a href="http://integrallife.com/ilpbook/index.html">link</a> takes you to video clips of the 3-body workout with someone who I guess is Huy Lam. Both the 1-minute module and the 10-minute version are demonstrated, the setting is beautiful and the videos are a feast for the eyes and mind.<br /><br />If like me your starting point with Integral and ILP is the Integral Life Practice book I cannot recommend these videos highly enough. It does raise the question of whether you can effectively develop an ILP just from the book, but maybe this thread is not the place for that discussion.<br /> </p> Hello http://davybuoy.gaia.com davybuoy tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-391089 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:51:29 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/391089 <p> <p>My name is David, I have the new ILP book and I am reading and trying to implement it. Progress is slow for various reasons including but not limited to; being a father to a girl starting her "terrible 2's" early, work commitments, no other interested persons in my area (Southern Ireland) and my perfectionism (mental need to start with a perfect practice rather than develop through trial and error).</p> <p>Where I stand;</p> <p>Body - easy for me, currently Aerobic exercise and planning to move on to the FIT strength training</p> <p>Mind - again easy for me, reading and studying the ILP book and Integral Theory. Also a good recent development is listening to the Philosophers notes with my wife and discussing them together.</p> <p>Shadow - hard for me even though I recognise the need for it. Can't afford to work with a therepist, decided to start simply by Journaling. This is where my perfectionism is hurting me the most and I fear the blank page! Does this simple idea from Maxwell Maltz count as Journaling? write 3 things to give gratitude for, 3 people to say thank you to and 3 smart/good/productive things I did each day.</p> <p>Spirit - hardest for me as a "rational/scientific naturalist" but I have gotten into Meditation and I am about to start the 2nd level of Holosync.</p> <p>Ethics - giving heartfelt service</p> <p>Relationships - conscious commitment and parenting</p> <p>Creativity - cooking more for family</p> <p>Work - has taken a real hit in all of this, as I have discovered so much and so much I want to know I have really struggled in work. The gap between who I am and who I want to be/the life I am living and the life I want to live, really hit me hard and it has taken around 4 months to get to grips with (so far).</p> <p>I would be interested to hear if for anyone else the discovery of these ideas (ILP) and the initial implimentation of them has been tough or had a negative affect.</p> </p> Intro http://dragonfly922.gaia.com Dragonfly tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-381079 Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:05:15 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/381079 <p> Hey everybody. My name is Michael Ezell. I have been a member of Integral Life since its inception some months ago and before that I was a member of Integral Naked. As soon as I was introduced to Ken&#39;s Wilber&#39;s work, I immediately devoured most of his published works and media materials including the ILP Starter Kit.<div>&nbsp;&nbsp; My personal practice includes:</div><div>Strength training</div><div>Yoga</div><div>Meditation and contemplative prayer</div><div>Shadow work</div><div>Study</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp; These practices have provided me with a deeper level of purpose and meaning and has enhanced every area of my life including Marriage, family, and work.</div><div>&nbsp;&nbsp; I look forward to getting to know everyone who is a part of this group.</div><div>Talk to you soon!&nbsp;</div> </p> Re: Wikipedia "Integral Life Practice" Stub? http://aqalicious.gaia.com adastra tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-343776 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:11:53 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/342091#343776 <p> Please spread word of this project anywhere you think integralish entities might be interested in working on it.<br /><br />I&#39;ve also posted about it in the Multiplex <a href="http://multiplex.integralinstitute.org/Public/cs/forums/87360/ShowThread.aspx#87360" target="_blank">here</a>, and at Integral Life&nbsp; <a href="http://integrallife.com/member/arthur-gillard/blog/ilp-wikipedia-stub-invitation-help-expand-full-article" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://integrallife.com/member/terry-patten/blog/integral-life-practice-here" target="_blank">here</a> (as a comment to Terry Patten&#39;s blog).<br /> <br /> cheers,<br /> Arthur </p> Re: Wikipedia "Integral Life Practice" Stub? http://aqalicious.gaia.com adastra tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-343764 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 21:48:51 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/342091#343764 <p> Over at <a href="http://pods.gaia.com/ii" target="_blank">The Integral Pod</a> we got the ILP stub going - see <a href="http://pods.gaia.com/ii/discussions/view/341989" target="_blank">this thread</a> for details.&nbsp; A lot of key points were made about how to go about this, so I recommend reading through that entire thread - but here are a couple of key points raised by <a href="http://drane.gaia.com/">Grey</a> [emphasis added]:<br /><br /><ul><li>I should also point out that not too long ago there was a push by certain editors to aggregate anything and everything &ldquo;integral&rdquo; into just a few articles, so a number of the Wiki links in the stub redirect to other articles. I say this, too, because I suspect <strong>there&#39;s a good chance someone will try to redirect this article</strong>, as well.&nbsp; But we&#39;ll have to wait and see. <strong><u>We can possibly prevent that by fleshing the article out as quickly as we can, so that it stands on its own better</u>.</strong></li><li>Adding to an existing article is certainly easier than creating a new one. <strong>The main things to be careful of are maintaining a &ldquo;neutral point of view&rdquo; (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view" target="_blank">NPOV</a>) and avoiding &rdquo;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research" target="_blank">original research</a>&rdquo;</strong>.</li></ul><br />Grey also posted <a href="http://pods.gaia.com/ii/discussions/view/341989#343749" target="_blank">a useful guide</a> to some of the essential style points - how to make something appear in italics or bold, for example.<br /><br />So anyone who wants to get in on this action, have at it!<br /><br />cheers,<br />Arthur </p> Exploring the Technium: Technology, Evolution, & God http://aqalicious.gaia.com adastra tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-342821 Tue, 23 Sep 2008 21:20:28 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/342821 <p> <p>One of my favorite &ldquo;big picture&rdquo; blogs of all time is Kevin Kelly&#39;s <a href="http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/" target="_blank">Technium</a>.&nbsp; Now, I&#39;m happy to report, a fascinating audio dialog between Kevin Kelly and Ken Wilber has been made available for FREE - and licensed under <a href="http://creativecommons.org/about" target="_blank">Creative Commons</a> as well!&nbsp; (which means people are encouraged to share it <a href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/" target="_blank">under these simple conditions</a>.)&nbsp; Check it out:<br /></p><h1 class="title">Exploring the Technium: Technology, Evolution, and God</h1> <div class="submitted"> <img src="http://integrallife.com/sites/all/themes/zen/zen_classic/images/audio_icon.png" alt="" /> Contributors: <a href="http://integrallife.com/contributors/kevin-kelly">Kevin Kelly</a> and <a href="http://integrallife.com/contributors/ken-wilber">Ken Wilber</a> </div> <div class="image"><img class="imagecache imagecache-std_small" src="http://integrallife.com/files/imagecache/std_small/image/ir-title/Technium.jpg" alt="" /> var so1 = new SWFObject(&lsquo;/sites/all/modules/s3_asset/lib/Player.swf&rsquo;, &lsquo;swf_Player_1&rsquo;, &lsquo;242&rsquo;, &lsquo;20&rsquo;, &lsquo;7&rsquo;, &lsquo;#FFFFFF&rsquo;); 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</div> <div class="abstract"><p><em>Wired</em> magazine&rsquo;s own &ldquo;Senior Maverick&rdquo; talks with Ken Wilber about some of the ideas behind Kevin&rsquo;s blog <em>The Technium</em>, which explores the various ways humanity defines and redefines itself through the interface of science, technology, culture, and consciousness.&nbsp; Kevin also shares some of his own thoughts about the role of spirituality in the 21st century, going into considerable depth around his own spiritual awakening several decades ago.</p> <p><em><strong>(This interview is available to everyone, absolutely free.&nbsp; <a href="mailto:?subject=Kevin%20Kelly%20and%20Ken%20Wilber%20-%20Free%20Interview&amp;body=Enjoy%20this%20free%20interview%20between%20Kevin%20Kelly%20and%20Ken%20Wiber%21%20%20%3Ca%20href=">http://integrallife.com/node/12177</a>&quot;&gt;Email this dialogue to a friend!</strong></em>)</p> <p>To download this dialogue, <a href="http://s3.amazonaws.com/integral-life-audio/Kevin_Kelly_and_Ken_Wilber_-_Exploring_the_Technium_pt1.mp3" target="_blank" class="ext">right click here</a>.</p></div> <div class="content"> <div class="contributor clear-block"><div class="image"><img class="imagecache imagecache-member_avatar" src="http://integrallife.com/files/imagecache/member_avatar/image/kelly.jpg" alt="" /></div><h2><a href="http://integrallife.com/contributors/kevin-kelly">Kevin Kelly</a></h2><p>Kevin Kelly is Senior Maverick at <em>Wired</em> magazine. He helped launch <em>Wired</em> in 1993, and served as its Executive Editor until January 1999. He is currently editor and publisher of the Cool Tools website, which gets 1 million visitors per month. From 1984-1990 Kelly was publisher and editor of the <em>Whole Earth Review</em>, a journal of unorthodox technical news. He co-founded the ongoing Hackers&#39; Conference, and was involved with the launch of the WELL, a pioneering online service started in 1985. He authored the best-selling <em>New Rules for the New Economy</em> and the classic book on decentralized emergent systems, <em>Out of Control.</em></p></div><div class="contributor clear-block"><div class="image"><img class="imagecache imagecache-member_avatar" src="http://integrallife.com/files/imagecache/member_avatar/image/KenWilber.jpg" alt="" /></div><h2><a href="http://integrallife.com/contributors/ken-wilber">Ken Wilber</a></h2><p>Ken Wilber is the most widely translated academic writer in America, with 25 books translated into some 30 foreign languages, and is the first philosopher-psychologist to have his Collected Works published while still alive. Wilber is an internationally acknowledged leader and the preeminent scholar of the Integral stage of human development, which continues to gather momentum around the world. His many books, all of which are still in print, can be found at <a href="http://www.amazon.com/" target="_blank" class="ext">Amazon.com</a>. Some of his more popular books include <em>Integral Spirituality; No Boundary</em>; <em>Grace and Grit</em>; <em>Sex, Ecology, Spirituality</em>; and the &ldquo;everything&rdquo; books: <em>A Brief History of Everything</em> (one of his largest selling books) and <em>A Theory of Everything</em> (probably the shortest introduction to his work).&nbsp; Ken Wilber is the founder of Integral Institute, Inc. and the co-founder of Integral Life, Inc.</p></div><p><em>Written by <a href="http://integrallife.com/member/corey-devos/profile">Corey W. deVos</a></em></p> <p>The universe, we are told, is winding down.&nbsp; Nothing escapes the remorseless grasp of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics&mdash;and with each passing moment, our world, our solar system, indeed our entire galaxy slowly approaches its inevitable heat-death. But this is not the full story, for while the universe is winding down, it is also winding up, bringing forth new forms from old, adding new layers of complexity where there was once only an empty vacuum.&nbsp; It is what Alfred Whitehead called the &ldquo;creative advance into novelty,&rdquo; referring to a distinct &ldquo;tilt&rdquo; of the universe toward more complexity, more significance, and more wholeness.&nbsp; From atoms, to molecules, to single-cell and multi-cellular organisms, to the reptilian brain, mammalian brain, and the human neocortex&mdash;the universe is abound with inexhaustible creativity, pushing deeper and wider towards its own limitless potential.&nbsp; Entropy and evolution: these two &ldquo;arrows of time&rdquo; exert their pull upon everything that ever is, was, and will be&mdash;one pulling us up toward the eternal light, the other pulling us down toward the infinite black.</p> <p>But it is not just physical matter that is evolving!&nbsp; Alongside the increasing complexification of the material world, evolution brings forth novelty in at least three other dimensions, particularly evident within human evolution:</p> <ul><li>We see the evolution of <em>systems</em>, such as the movement from foraging to horticulture, to agriculture, to industrial, to informational modes of techno-economic production.&nbsp;<br /> &nbsp;</li><li>We see the evolution of <em>cultural worldviews</em>, such as the developmental model offered by Jean Gebser, in which cultures develop through archaic/instinctual, magic/animistic, mythic/traditional, rational/scientific, pluralistic/postmodern, and integral worldviews, each offering radically different ways of interpreting our world and our roles within it.&nbsp;<br /> &nbsp;</li><li>And, perhaps most profoundly, we see the evolution of <em>consciousness</em>, with cognitive faculties developing from Piaget&rsquo;s pre-operational, to concrete operational, to formal-operational, to Wilber&rsquo;s suggested &ldquo;vision-logic&rdquo; stage&mdash;and with values developing from pre-modern, to modern, to post-modern (or pre-rational, rational, and trans-rational) stages, and beyond.&nbsp;</li></ul> <p>Taken together, we notice a rich mosaic of evolutionary emergence, in at least four important dimensions: subjective and objective development in both individuals and collectives. This gives rise to Wilber&#39;s famous &ldquo;Four Quadrant&rdquo; map, one of a handful of basic components that comprise the Integral model. The Integral approach helps to reveal some of the deepest patterns that run through all human knowledge, showing the relationships that exist between physical evolution, systemic evolution, cultural evolution, and conscious evolution.</p> <p class="rtecenter"><img src="http://integrallife.com/files/4q%282%29.jpg" alt="" width="588" height="588" /></p> <p>Whereas some consider consciousness, culture, and technology to be mere epiphenomena of biophysical evolution, the Integral approach highlights many of the fallacies hidden within such reductionistic views.&nbsp; The Four Quadrants represent four distinct dimensions of the universe, all strongly correlating with each other, but not at all reducible to one another.&nbsp; Consciousness cannot be simply reduced to the chemical soup between your ears, as scientific materialists might believe.&nbsp;&nbsp; All truth cannot be reduced to cultural embedment, as post-modernists have claimed.&nbsp; And all of our behaviors cannot be reduced to techno-economic conditions, as Marxists presume. There are simply more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in any of these partial philosophies&mdash;and the Integral approach essentially tries to get all of heaven and all of earth onto the table, without ever confusing a meadow for a cloud, a mountain for a star, or an ocean for a galaxy.</p> <p>This, in many ways, is what Kevin&#39;s <em>Technium</em> truly represents.&nbsp; As he describes in his blog, <em>Technium</em> is a word he &ldquo;reluctantly coined to designate the greater sphere of technology&mdash;one that goes beyond hardware to include culture, law, social institutions, and intellectual creations of all types. In short, the Technium is anything that springs from the human mind. It includes hard technology, but much else of human creation as well. I see this extended face of technology as a whole system with its own dynamics.&rdquo; &nbsp;<em>The Technium </em> exists at the interface between science, technology, culture, and consciousness, exploring the various ways humanity has defined and redefined itself through the ages.&nbsp; Within the <em>Technium</em>, technology is not regarded merely as the lifeless artifacts created by a particular species, but as a living matrix of innovation&mdash;the infusion of consciousness into inanimate matter, which in turn shapes our personal and cultural experience of the world.&nbsp;</p> <p>Toward the end of the discussion, Kevin shares one of his most powerful experiences. At the age of 27, he slept on the supposed spot where Jesus was crucified, and upon awakening had a powerful spiritual experience.&nbsp; Many people are aware of the fact that Kevin continues to be a devout Christian, which might defy some expectations of those who otherwise consider him extremely rational&mdash;trans-rational even&mdash;while pushing the vanguard of digital culture.&nbsp; In many contemporary thinkers&#39; minds, spirituality is little more than a quaint vestige of antiquity, and once we transition from the mythic/traditionalist stage to the rational/scientific stage, there is no longer any room in the universe for God.&nbsp;</p> <p>This, more than anything, has been the rallying call of the &ldquo;New Atheist&rdquo; movement of Richard Dawkins, Christopher Hitchens, and (to a lesser degree) Sam Harris.&nbsp; But it is important to note that it&#39;s not spirituality <em>per se</em> that the modern world should jettison, but the magical and mythical <em>interpretations</em> of spirituality that are transcended by the rational or postmodern mind. The present schism between modernity and spirituality does not need to exist, as long as we allow ourselves enough room to re-conceptualize what we mean by the word &ldquo;spirituality.&rdquo;&nbsp;</p> <p>While nobly trying to dislodge humanity from the monolithic tyranny of fundamentalism, many modern and post-modern thinkers have inadvertently thrown the baby out with the bath water.&nbsp; When Nietzsche accurately exclaimed &ldquo;God is dead!&rdquo; he wasn&#39;t actually talking about God Him/Herself, but the <em>mythic conception</em> of God, along with all the dogmatism, absolutism, and ethnocentrism that follows.&nbsp; While the mythic God was dying, the rational God was only just being born.&nbsp; Possiby stillborn, some might argue, but born nonetheless&mdash;with both a pluralistic God and an Integral God close on its heels.</p> <p>This is one of the most extraordinary insights of recent years: while the universe (and our <em>experience</em> of the universe) is constantly evolving, so is our spirituality.&nbsp; It is a sad reality that spirituality remains such a confusing and controversial topic. How is it that religion has brought more liberation to more people than any other human endeavor, while simultaneously causing more pain and suffering than anything in human history? &nbsp;As mentioned, both individuals and cultures develop through increasing waves of subjective and intersubjective complexity, from archaic, to magic, to mythic, to rational, to pluralistic, to integral stages of consciousness and culture, with infinite room at the top for future stages of unfolding.&nbsp; This is the profound role religion can potentially serve in the 21st century&mdash;a sort of &ldquo;conveyor belt&rdquo; of consciousness, designed to facilitate growth through each stage of consciousness.&nbsp;</p> <p><img src="http://integrallife.com/files/image/wilber-combs_color.jpg" alt="" width="350" height="397" align="right" />And this is an absolutely crucial point&mdash;you can taste God at any stage in your own psychological development, as these experiences are always available as ever-present <em>states of consciousness</em>.&nbsp; However, your interpretation of the experience will be largely determined by what <em>stage of consciousness</em> you have achieved.&nbsp; For example, a mythic/traditional person might interpret a spiritual experience as a revelation from a personal God intended solely for the &ldquo;chosen people,&rdquo; a rational/scientific person might interpret reason and mathematics itself as the language of a Deistic God (the &ldquo;great clockmaker in the sky&rdquo;), while a pluralistic/postmodern person might interpret his or her experience as emanating from Gaia and felt as a radical interconnectivity with the &ldquo;Great Web of Life.&rdquo;&nbsp; This is demonstrated in the graphic to the right, known as the Wilber/Combs matrix, which plots four different types of commonly-acknowledged spiritual states against seven evolutionary stages of consciousness, yielding at least 28 different kinds of spiritual experience.&nbsp; No wonder we are so confused!</p> <p>Furthermore, just as we can look at evolution through three major perspectives (3rd-person physical and techno-economic evolution, 2nd-person cultural evolution, 1st-person conscious evolution), so can we view our relationship with the divine from these same three perspectives, sometimes called the &ldquo;Three Faces of God&rdquo;:&nbsp;</p> <ul><li>We can speak <em>about</em> God from a 3rd-person perspective, including theological or metaphysical descriptions, or just a simple appreciation of the universe as the living body of God. This is often experienced as profound awe at the entire world around us.<br /> &nbsp;</li><li>We can speak <em>with</em> God from a 2nd-person perspective, as an authentic &ldquo;I-Thou&rdquo; relationship between ourselves and divinity, in which we can commune with God as the ultimate &ldquo;Thou&rdquo;&mdash;or, as Martin Buber might suggest, as the living hyphen between the I and every Thou you have ever known. This is often experienced as bottomless, rapturous love with the entire world around us.<br /> &nbsp;</li><li>We can speak <em>as</em> God from a 1st-person perspective, a direct experience of Spirit in the form of mystical transcendence, personal revelation, or luminous reverie.&nbsp; This is commonly felt as an experience of the Self beyond the self, or the effortless &ldquo;I AMness&rdquo; behind all our thoughts, memories, and experiences. This is often experienced as transcendent, empty bliss as we realize we <em>are</em> the entire world around us.</li></ul> <p>Approaching spiritual experience in this way does a great deal to help us understand the current state of the world&rsquo;s ongoing inter-faith dialogue, as we can see that every spiritual tradition intrinsically contains all three of these perspectives, though certain traditions might focus on one more than the others.&nbsp; For example, the Western theistic traditions tend to emphasize &ldquo;God in 2nd-person&rdquo; and are often distrustful of 1st-person experiences of the divine, whereas Eastern traditions like Buddhism tend to point to 1st-person realization as the ultimate means of liberation, while sometimes understating the importance of 2nd-person communion with Spirit.</p> <p>Thanks to the information age, people now have unprecedented access to all the world&rsquo;s knowledge, wisdom, and culture.&nbsp; Never before has the world been so small&mdash;and yet, considering the absolutely massive amount of data now at our fingertips, the world has also never been so unfathomably huge.&nbsp; We are drowning in zeros and ones, the digital reflections of our outer and inner worlds flooding our senses faster than any of us can metabolize.&nbsp; Only a genuinely Integral approach can make sense of this deluge of information, an approach that acknowledges and situates the established methodologies of phenomenology, structuralism, empiricism, hermeneutics, systems theory, etc., without ever confusing the territory of one methodology with the authority of another.&nbsp; In this sense, both Kevin Kelly and Ken Wilber are truly 21st-century pioneers, both of whom share an irrepressible drive to synthesize and integrate a truly staggering body of knowledge. Their work represents a new way of seeing the world, of relating to the world, and of <em>being </em>in the world.&nbsp; They strive to identify the very real patterns in our universe, patterns that connect everything to everything else, and in so doing, helping to clear a path for the future of evolution in this lonely pocket of the universe.&nbsp;</p> <p>We hope you enjoy this fascinating dialogue&mdash;and be sure to stay tuned to Integral Life for the other installments of this conversation, to be aired in the coming months.</p> <p><em><strong>(Reminder: this interview is available to everyone, absolutely free.&nbsp; <a href="mailto:?subject=Kevin%20Kelly%20and%20Ken%20Wilber%20-%20Free%20Interview&amp;body=Enjoy%20this%20free%20interview%20between%20Kevin%20Kelly%20and%20Ken%20Wiber%21%20%20%3Ca%20href=">http://integrallife.com/apply/science-technology/exploring-technium-technology-evolution-and-god</a>&quot;&gt;Email this dialogue to a friend!</strong></em>)</p> <hr /> <p><strong>About Integral Life:</strong> Integral Life is your gateway to some of the most cutting-edge conversations taking place in today&#39;s world. 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Through the rich diversity of subject matter runs a single thread: a fierce determination to connect the dots of our fragmented lives and begin to make sense of a world gone slightly mad&hellip;.</p> <p>Still a work in progress, with new features being added every week, IntegralLife.com is on its way toward becoming the central hub for the emerging Integral movement.&nbsp; There are two levels of membership: you can sign up for a free membership, which provides access to a large sample of audio and video clips, as well as most community features&mdash;including your own member profile, blog, and many other features still under development.&nbsp; For a low monthly membership&nbsp;fee you can enjoy hundreds of hours of cutting-edge audio, video, flash presentations, and e-learnings, with new audio dialogues and videos published every week.&nbsp; Previous guests include: Kevin Kelly, Jim Garrison, Deepak Chopra, Michael Crichton, Rupert Sheldrake, Genpo Roshi, Lama Surya Das, Fr. Thomas Keating, Tony Robbins, Rick Rubin, Saul Williams, and many others.&nbsp; You are invited to participate in the Integral revolution, where together we can bring a little more wholeness to our world and to ourselves, and where we can all learn to live free and fully human lives.</p> <p>To preview more free audio and video content, be sure to check out the Media Browser on the <a href="http://integrallife.com/">Integral Life homepage</a>.</p> <p>To sign up for your own account (free or premium), <a href="http://integrallife.com/editorial/new-face-integral">click here!</a></p> <hr /> <p><a rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/" target="_blank" class="ext"><img src="http://i.creativecommons.org/l/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/88x31.png" alt="Creative Commons License" align="right" /></a> <span>Kevin Kelly and Ken Wilber - Exploring the Technium. Part 1. Technology, Evolution, and God.</span> by <a rel="attributionURL" href="http://integrallife.com/node/12177">Kevin Kelly, Ken Wilber, Corey W. deVos</a> is licensed under a <a rel="license" href="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/" target="_blank" class="ext">Creative Commons Attribution-Noncommercial-Share Alike 3.0 United States License</a>.</p><p>(<a href="http://integrallife.com/apply/science-technology/exploring-technium-technology-evolution-and-god" target="_blank">source</a>)</p><p>~~~</p> </div> </p> Excellent Eve Ensler video from TED.com http://traviseneix.gaia.com Rev. Travis Eneix tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-342411 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:10:05 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/342411 <p> Which gives an excellent outline of what it is to move from an ethnocentric worldview to a worldcentric worldview.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEF_Dicq3c4">Check it out.</a> </p> Wikipedia "Integral Life Practice" Stub? http://aqalicious.gaia.com adastra tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-342091 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:15:29 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/342091 <p> <em>Since there&#39;s no board for general discussion, I&#39;ll post this here - on the grounds that this post concerns, &quot;What is an Effective [way to promote] ILP?&quot;</em><br /><br />Here&#39;s a wack idea: does anybody with &ldquo;Wiki-Whispering&rdquo; abilities want to start a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Stub" target="_blank">Wikipedia stub article</a> on the topic of &ldquo;Integral Life Practice,&rdquo; which other people could then work on and expand?&nbsp; <br /><br />With the recent publication of the excellent &rdquo;<a href="http://www.shambhala.com/html/catalog/items/isbn/978-1-59030-467-9.cfm" target="_blank">Integral Life Practice</a>&rdquo; book, it&#39;s a topical thang.&nbsp; I found a few glancing references to ILP in Wikipedia but no actual article on the topic.<br /><br />I just registered as a Wiki editor - easy to do - and started to gather information on how to start a stub.&nbsp; It&#39;s a little more involved than I thought;&nbsp; I don&#39;t really have time to go through the learning curve on stub-creation right now, but I thought someone with a greater knowledge of these things might be interested in starting it off.&nbsp; Once a stub article is in place it looks like it would be<em> </em>easier for others to revise and expand the article.<br /><br />Anyone interested in starting that ball rolling? <br /><br />spiral out,<br />Arthur<br /> </p> Something about Me and My ILP http://aqalicious.gaia.com adastra tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-342086 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:10:57 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/342086 <p> Hi all<br /><br />I&#39;ll start out by giving a bio, then in a subsequent post - probably tomorrow sometime - I&#39;ll be more explicit about my current ILP.<br /><br />A close friend once described me as &ldquo;always on the grow.&rdquo; Being open and honest are values which are very important to me and have greatly facilitated my growth; heart-centered feedback is always welcome.<br /><br />My involvement with integral forums has brought me some of my closest friends, as well as bringing <a href="http://transcend-include.gaia.com/" target="_blank">my beautiful wife</a> into my life; we had been friends for years before I finally met Liz face-to-face at a gathering I hosted in Vancouver in June 2006; I&#39;m now happily living with her and my wonderful stepchildren in Sacramento.&nbsp; <br /><br />I recently wrote the back-of-book index for <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Integral-Life-Practice-21st-Century-Blueprint/dp/1590304675" target="_blank">Integral Life Practice</a>, and it was great to be able to study it in such detail before any of you got a chance to (nyah nyah).&nbsp; It was an inspiring, comprehensive treatment of the subject and I highly recommend it.&nbsp; Currently I&#39;m editing an &ldquo;At Issue&rdquo; book for <a href="http://www.gale.cengage.com/greenhaven/" target="_blank">Greenhaven Press</a>, and seeking additional full- or part-time work that feeds my soul and makes a difference in the world.<br /><br />Over the past several years I&#39;ve been a moderator on several integral forums, researched and wrote short articles for Integral University, and in various other ways have served the growth of integral consciousness as best I can.&nbsp; I&#39;ve written transcripts of integral video and audio material, some of which are posted on my <a href="http://aqalicious.gaia.com/blog" target="_blank">Gaia blog</a> - including two parts of a conference call I participated in with Ken Wilber (&rdquo;<a href="http://aqalicious.gaia.com/blog/2007/12/nameless_dread_at_the_brink_of_the_transpersonal" target="_blank">Nameless Dread at the Brink of the Transpersonal</a>&rdquo; and &rdquo;<a href="http://aqalicious.gaia.com/blog/2008/2/turquoise_shadows_transcript_of_a_conversation_with_ken_wilber" target="_blank">Turquoise Shadows</a>.&rdquo;<br /><br />I&#39;ve done a lot of work with&nbsp;<a href="http://pods.gaia.com/ii/discussions/view/103934">Robert Augustus Masters</a>, a writer and therapist emphasizing integral healing and awakening; he has become a great teacher and exemplar for me.&nbsp; I am cultivator of the lively <a href="http://pods.gaia.com/robert_augustus_masters" target="_blank">Robert Augustus Masters</a> group on Gaia and host a <a href="http://pods.gaia.com/robert_augustus_masters/discussions/board/8562" target="_blank">weekly Q&amp;A exchange</a> with Robert.&nbsp; Lately I&#39;ve also been attending satsangs with <a href="http://pods.gaia.com/ii/discussions/view/231517" target="_blank">Gangaji</a> and <a href="http://pods.gaia.com/ii/discussions/view/117584" target="_blank">Adyashanti</a> whenever possible.<br /><br />I spend most of my &ldquo;forum time&rdquo; these days on <strong>The Integral Pod</strong>: <a href="http://pods.gaia.com/ii/" target="_blank">http://pods.gaia.com/ii/</a> and the <a href="http://pods.gaia.com/robert_augustus_masters" target="_blank">Robert Augustus Masters</a> group.<br /><br />Remember: it&#39;s all fun and games until somebody loses an &ldquo;I&rdquo; - then things<em> really </em>get interesting!<br /><br />spiral out,<br />Arthur<br /><br /><a rel="lightbox" href="http://aura1.gaia.com/photos/23/225052/xlarge/B_W_Arthur.jpg" title="me, july 2007" onclick="myLightbox.start(this); return false;"><img class="zoom-photo" src="http://aura1.gaia.com/photos/23/225052/large/B_W_Arthur.jpg" alt="me, july 2007" title="me, july 2007" /></a> </p> Re: Newbie here. http://traviseneix.gaia.com Rev. Travis Eneix tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-336660 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 22:02:26 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/325724#336660 <p> Hey there!&nbsp; Welcome to the club!<br /><br />I put a copy of the book on hold at my local library.&nbsp; I am on a one year hiatus from buying books.&nbsp; ;-)<br /> </p> Newbie here. http://haelan.gaia.com Haelan tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-325724 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 05:20:44 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/integral_life_practice/conversations/view/325724 <p> Hi Y&#39;all,<br /><br />I&#39;ve just recently discovered the wonderful AQAL world and am totatlly absorbed by everything Integral at this moment. I finally found something that helps me make sense of everything around and inside of me. I just received my ILP Starter Kit and will post my future experiences here in this Pod.<br /><br />Just wondering if you all pre-ordered your copy of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Integral-Life-Practice-21st-Century-Blueprint/dp/1590304675" target="_blank">Integral Life Practice: A 21st-Century Blueprint for Physical Health, Emotional Balance, Mental Clarity, and Spiritual Awakening</a>. I know I can&#39;t wait to pick up a copy. Hope you are all progressing with your ILP. <br /><br />Blessings,<br />Hae </p>