Gaia: Knights & Maidens of the Roundtable - Read First and Refer Back Often

Re: Primary Objective

http://goodworld.gaia.com — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:27:06 GMT

Thank you, Keith, for the reminder. It is our pod---to use the original Zaadz terminology.

However, thanks are due to Keith for setting it up for us in the first place.

Also remember to think of which "sector" is our main interest and which other sectors are our affiliated or related interests.
My home is, for example, economic (spiritual economics, to avoid misunderstanding). But related homes are philosophy, politics (governance) and education.

This is something to do with the "holistic methodology" required by a new investigative pradigm.

Re: Primary Objective

http://goodworld.gaia.com — Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:17:55 GMT

And a faithful watcher, thank you.
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This is what could be:

and this may be the process:

Re: Primary Objective

http://Domus-ulixes.gaia.com — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:49:01 GMT

hihi, I like the video.
Though I do not agree that capitalism is obsolete as a system.
I do agree that a new social system is required in over capitalised area's like America.

It is a very good and clear video. Where can I download it?

Re: Primary Objective

http://keithb7862.gaia.com — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 23:22:58 GMT

I just completed the video and am astounded by the attention to detail.

Would advise others to view with an open mind, as it might appear too science fiction. But realize while watching the video or reading their material that all the technology and material needed to turn this into reality . . . is already here!!!

There will be, I can easily see, much resistance to this by those who are entrenched in the old system. I would offer that this may be our future, but not our immediate future . . . unless . . . there was a total collapse of our present economy and government, world-wide.

Is this what Universe has in store for us? Possible. I would argue, Janos, that this would require a complete change in our mind-set. Such changes normally occur over many, many years involving several generations. I love the concepts and the fact this is "off-the-shelf" ready to go today. I do. I think it's fantastic. But at the same time, this would be a massive, massive undertaking and require upending centuries of societal conditioning.

I joined, BTW. This needs to go viral, really. A bit over 300,000 members world-wide would definitely be enough to get a few pilot projects up and going, but many more would be needed before any kind of tipping point is reached.

I do agree with you about health delivery. I'm advocating change. I would, however, drop everything in a heartbeat and advocate this if things take a sudden downward turn and if there was more support from others.

Along this line, BTW, just read this morning that the largest country in the US state of Alabama is laying off two-thirds of all its employees due to lack of funds. This has been an on-going trend . . . and I only see it continuing. The state of California has been doing the same thing.

Are we seeing and will we be continuing to see governmental breakdown?

I think we will.

Re: Primary Objective

http://goodworld.gaia.com — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:40:54 GMT

...only the free market can do an efficient job of managing supply and demand...

This is the "market fundamentalist" stance. It is quite difficult to engage with because it has the characteristics of an article of faith. George Soros talks a lot about this in his critique of the current form of theory-dominated capitalism.

In my understanding, the theory fails to recognise that the market's supply and demand mechanism can see only "effective demand", demand backed by purchasing power.
Real demand, with no adequate dollars to give it a voice, goes unheard on the market.
Also, efficiency is overvalued in the market fundamentalist model and is taken to be the supreme and over riding factor and is forced into areas os social functionality like education and health where rigorous measurement is not possible without reducing human participants to things.
These schools of thoughts should take some lessons from living systems where a great deal of "redundancy" is tolerated in exchange for viability and stability.

Going back to health care, I just don't see why the general standard of health of the people should be subordinated to the calculations preformed by the a-human mechanism of market forces.
It may be true that bad doctors for example would eventually loose their practice for lack of clients, but our concern should be the waste and suffering before enough people relised that they should not go to him.

Of course the market would not be allowed to reign supreme like that. Legal action would be taken after the first few cases of malpractice. But that is just the point, the market forces cannot be left to their own devices where human well being and lives are at stake.

Re: Primary Objective

http://keithb7862.gaia.com — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:20:31 GMT

Your link, Janos, is missing. Here it is: The Zeitgeist Movement: Orientation Presentation .

I have a question: Today in the US we are neck-deep in debating health reform. The argument presented by those who are perfectly content with the status quo is that only the free market can do an efficient job of managing supply and demand, that "socialized medicine" doesn't work and is akin to being un-American.

If as being argued, the free market is the best manager of health delivery, then why, pray tell, has our system become so out of balance, priced itself essentially out of the market for increasing segments of the population, and is almost universally detested?

To those who would argue that "social management" (generically speaking) is abhorrant and will not work, how can our current capitalistic systems be supported, while the entire planet is experiencing such a severe recession which may in the future be labeled Great Depression II? Would this not be proof-positive that our systems should be reassessed? All the knobs, levers and buttons our leaders normally use to maintain continuity and balance simply . . . are not, and likely will not . . . work.

Any thoughts?

Re: Primary Objective

http://goodworld.gaia.com — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 17:02:14 GMT

Not quite sure how the threading works. This post should follow Michael's statement of preference for the Esoterics board.

The twelve modules or departments are of course need to converge to develop or identify resources to advance one common task the transformation of the troubled world we know into the Possible Good World (PGW).

So contributions need to qualify as a resource and, if needed, the sponsor may have to indicate (as Michael done in his post --- referenced) to the "collective" how it furthers overall task advancement.

Our goal is this:

Re: Primary Objective

http://goodworld.gaia.com — Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:41:43 GMT

I wrote this entry before I watched The Zeitgeist Movement: Orientation Presentation which is a comprehensive systemic overview of what is wrong and how to put it right. The presentation at nearly an hour and forty minutes long. It is extracted from the more extensive "Activist Orientation Guide".

A highly recommendable presentation---"orientation" describes it perfectly. Well worth spending the time on.

This cartoon also sums up the change needed.

"Our Crisis is a birth"

Re: We are still here---at least in spirit

http://Meenakshi.gaia.com — Tue, 26 May 2009 12:41:05 GMT

Re-joined this group today [i was looking for an old post of mine, that I've now cross-posted as a blog!], saw this post and rejoined.

Some things that stand out and get connected:
Onward Maidens and Knights - talk of renaming the group

janos Wondering how many "peaceful warriors" there are in zaadz. (1 year ago)

I believe, dear Janos, you have the name here. Perhaps you and your mods could rename, possibly revamp the group and relaunch it?

We are still here---at least in spirit

http://goodworld.gaia.com — Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:25:58 GMT

This group seems to be inactive but it is not dead.

It is a seed waiting for the spring

Re: Has anyone actually DONE something?

http://arinaya.gaia.com — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 16:18:35 GMT

I tried working for a while with C but I found the abundance of negative energies counterproductive and hypocritical. Hope you find what you're after...

Bless

Re: Has anyone actually DONE something?

Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:01:04 GMT

I Look , I know , and I do something with all my power to help these people , and am giving my gifts , and love.
As we all need to work together to help, and strive for this.

Re: Has anyone actually DONE something?

http://goodworld.gaia.com — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:58:35 GMT

Christine,

I am so sorry you are so wrong about our intention here.

You have real fire to contribute to the task of remaking the world, but there are many ways of being active.

Re: Has anyone actually DONE something?

http://goodworld.gaia.com — Fri, 23 Jan 2009 14:44:05 GMT

...Millions would die in days due to starvation...

This is the " essential scarcity" theory and the thesis that "too many people" are the cause of poverty not one of the effects of poverty.

Stand on a bridge over a busy motorway and behold the colossal amount of energy being thrown away every second by those hurtling pieces of metal below you; not to mention the hydrocarbons being burned that could be made into food and wondrous new materials.

Who, or what, enforces scarcity? We could know (and could do something about it) but most of us do not want to look.

Re: Has anyone actually DONE something?

Mon, 19 Jan 2009 19:12:26 GMT

Today We start our quest our journey, and this Maiden, can or will not do it alone.
She has come to the round Table to seek your help guidance.

Knight & Maidens Of The Round Table

They have robbed me bare, I walk on tender foot, and travel far , with my bags, moving as I must.
The quest begins :

AUTHENTIC SOULS ADVENTURES

In my town As I walk , I know the quest has just begun. A journey of a thousand miles.

Many will help , and many will be apart of our journey.
So take a hold as the story unfolds, to UNITY.
It is like Robin Hood , and his men, well times have changed , now you have Gaia Godess Of Earth.
Gather round the table well the story takes birth...
Sign your name if you will be apart of this quest, for the best.
We may have a silent few, yet this is okay too.

Re: Has anyone actually DONE something?

Mon, 19 Jan 2009 15:42:26 GMT

The Key , I bow to this knight in deed...

Re: Has anyone actually DONE something?

http://Domus-ulixes.gaia.com — Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:30:48 GMT

denote the irony, even though every second one person needlesly dies. Every second two get needlessley born...

might sound mean, but if this many people wouldn't die. Millions would die in days due to starvation. Birth control is the key to saving lives. the irony isn't it?

Re: Has anyone actually DONE something?

Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:48:53 GMT

No Comment, to your response .
I am sorry that you are hurting , as those are very hurtful words.

Love , and honour to all,

GG

Re: Has anyone actually DONE something?

Mon, 19 Jan 2009 01:05:35 GMT

"Dear one",

From http://starvation.net/

"One person every other second needlessly dies. Approximately 85% of them are children."

Your insipid dribble is about as repulsive as it gets. This entire site is nothing but a front for the NWO, designed to stupify people while ripping them off in the process with ads to "divine" chocolate and whatever crap.

If there is a god, why didn't he give people a BS detector?

My next contribution to humankind is to terminate my membership here.

Christine

Re: Has anyone actually DONE something?

Mon, 19 Jan 2009 00:10:45 GMT

Please be clear in your intention dear one, as why does this make you cry?