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  Yvette : CulturalFusion

Higher Vision as the Norm

Yvette said Aug 4, 2007, 8:34 PM:
 

What if a higher vision of one's life became the norm?

Perhaps that starts with something as simple as getting more and more people asking the same questions together and privately…..

what -is-peace?

what is freedom?

what is your passion?
 

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

cosmicbdog [no longer around] said Aug 5, 2007, 5:19 PM:
 
Oh how many more of us are asking questions like…

what is the problem?

where is there pain?

Its that and over there. I find these questions often arrive at answers that make it simple to externalise the solution…. give responsibility elsewhere and fall victim to a delusion.

What is peace? Its what we have. A golden rule that that allows our differences to exist without causing harm to one another. 

what is freedom? Again, it is what we have AND it is what we are afraid of. so we ask ourselves instead questions like “what is a good cage?” and we build them and live in them instead. Yet, how can there be restriction when freedom is what we have? There can't… its just that many many many questions people ask help us arrive at answers that are illusory in nature and therefor naturally self defeating from the outset. Asking the right questions is vital to living a higher vision as the norm….

What are the ultimate locally and globally rewarding questions we could be asking ourselves? I like Yvette's…

Ones that liberate us with truth and further cloud us in illusion OR ones that release us in realisation?

Here's some more Q's I think will activate a higher level of consciousness…

What is significance in the eyes of eternity?

How would the world be different without you in it?

How is the world perfect exactly as it is?

What is vitally important for you to be in your time here?


I find it begins with my intention. How can I expect to source the right questions when I am in a state that is out of alignment with a higher vision that is coming in so fast? I can't. So I often advise that its essential to get your energy in the right place. Remind yourself of eternity. Enter in the silence for long enough periods of time so that you can begin to see that the thoughts you are having may not even be yours. To let go of yourself, so that you are not asking questions from that self limited perspective where you see yourself as a little fragmented being running around in survival. In survival, in fear… what sort of questions are you going to arrive at? Ones that generate answers which resonate with the very intention we began with.

So are we asking questions now because we want a higher vision as the norm, and because we are in discontent with the current circumstances and the reality. The way I see it, if we are coming from a 'need to change' perspective then essentially, right now, we are deluded and potentially infecting need onto a world that is abundant. We are in freedom. Peace is what is… a code that allows infinite realities to exist simultaneously without the universe collapsing.  So when we've got our hands up going “I'm in a conflict and how do I get out of it?” well, essentially we're attempting to fix a riddle that doesn't exist in the first place. Its not a conflict, its what we've created. There's no confusion… the universe has listened to us very very intimately and has generated exactly what we have asked for.

“Dear God, how can I… ” and on and on the billions of billions of prayers go. Oh how confused God must be… “But child, you just asked for this???”…

The world is so overly complicated because people aren't asking questions like Yvette's enough. They ask for this, for that, for this, for that. Counter counter counter counter. No wonder it seems so chaotic because we are all fully creative beings capable of getting whatever we truly attach feeling to. Boom… there it pops up for us to eventually see in some form or another.

So its all here… in manifest now… all our rediculous dreams… big or small.. the universe doing its best to make it all work for us. Unconditionally, it supports all dreams… people to blow up countries in order to get oil. Which most of us seem to think is bad. But essentially, we enjoy talking about it on the internet via products mostly oil based that probably couldn't have been if it were not to many other devestating methods which we dreamed up as well. Not directly, but the world takes care of the details, right? So be careful what you ask for…

How interconnected are we?

How powerful are our questions and desires? Can the slightest selfish question such as some long ago desire to go into space, generate a series of questions that eventually sucks the planet dry from which it tries to escape? 
  Keith : Gentle Soul

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

Keith said Aug 5, 2007, 5:38 PM:
 

Bobby, just love your mind.

          “What is significance in the eyes of eternity?

                Not one iota of this, excepting love

           How would the world be different without you in it?

                An unfathomable chasm

           How is the world perfect exactly as it is?

                Ask any butterfly, they'll tell you

           What is vitally important for you to be in your time here?”

                That I may “be”

These are important questions and considerations.  What else?  Anyone?
  Yvette : CulturalFusion

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

Yvette said Aug 6, 2007, 1:21 PM:
 
How interconnected are we?

I have a friend who reminds me, we are One Humanity with Four billion faces :-)

I feel art is one way to engage larger groups in this kind of inquiry in a way that does not present as threatening.
At first finding the network of talent seemed like an impossible hurdle…then getting the Hotel Infinity website started….so along the way i realize this entire undertakind is do-able if i keep my attention on the next step.

So for me the next step is, finding the right businesses to work with to tour the exhibitions….and actually part of that is also finding a transportation service that we can work with to promote renewal energy who is using alternative fuel or renewable energy. It'd be a great way to market transportation and courrier services that are doing that kind of thing…..

But how to find these kind of innovative companies that are eager to be part of the change?

I have been so encouraged by the kinds of dialogues going on here and i know i for one am eager to see results emerge from it because it will strengthen the hope of others…..and inspire more to join in.

Thanks for the boost guys :-)
 

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

Chrysalis [no longer around] said Aug 5, 2007, 9:32 PM:
 

“What if a higher vision of one's life became the norm?”

Then you would surely find A LOT of people who would decide they don't want to be part of the norm and choose to be against what they find old and dusty and what needs to be changed. Even if it could make them happy if they surrendered, sad as it is.
 

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

Tuan [no longer around] said Aug 6, 2007, 1:18 PM:
 

Oh, I absolutely resonate with this. So sad doesn't it???
  sandy : Activist and Ambassador

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

sandy said Aug 7, 2007, 1:13 AM:
 

Higher Vision is the normal -
but is it to some and not all ?
That I cannot answer ?
Perhaps it's more that some have a
Vision of Passion that drives them and
for other's it's something else that drives them?
We each have our purpose and/or passion that
drives us -hopefully ?
 

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

Tuan [no longer around] said Aug 7, 2007, 11:06 AM:
 

Majority like to keep their way of life unchange by the visionaire eventhough they recognize that is the higher vision. Oftenly the higher vision get put down and view as a threat to the society. I'm very sad about that as I'm a visionaire too.
  Keith : Gentle Soul

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

Keith said Aug 7, 2007, 8:46 PM:
 

Very sad but true Tuan.  I am seeing signs today that more and more know when something is “true” or “untrue”.  The US media could at one time spout anything it wanted.  Not today.  This is just another area where the old is breaking down.  Instead of news, we get lots of “fluff”.  Our MSM doesn't have the control it once had to shape public opinion.  We're now doing this ourselves … right here, right now …

There's no place on the pod to discuss the media.  Should we not have this somewhere? 

We don't need to be controled any longer. 

  helenrscp : Joy Within

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

helenrscp said Aug 6, 2007, 4:36 PM:
 

I love the questions…here are three that Deepak Chopra said we could each ask ourselves every day for five minutes…then spend an additional five minutes contemplating our answers:

Who am I?
What do I want?
What is my purpose?

Chopra was being intereviewed in our local paper and he mentioned this in answer the question “What do you suggest…..?”

I've been doing this on and off for a couple of months and it's a great practice.  I've never “gotten” the same answer twice!  Asking these questions has been an amazing experience.

With appreciation,
Helen
  Meenakshi : Flow

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

Meenakshi said Aug 8, 2007, 5:26 PM:
 

Thought-provoking responses.

A step towards higher vision is getting perspective; stepping back, rising higher; and getting the deathbed perspective. Specially when we've to choose among alternatives, it helps to think…what would I regret not doing on my deathbed? [Of course, it can depend on how far away death seems to be!]

We can access higher vision a few times, but I think what we are trying to achieve, is to have it at all times. For that, one needs to be centered in joy and peace. That allows the mind to be free of worries and “ain't it awful' scenarios.
  sandy : Activist and Ambassador

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

sandy said Aug 8, 2007, 6:14 PM:
 

No -you don't have to be surrounded by
“joy and Peace” -
in fact the opposite is true.
Higher Vision is more apparent if one is
suffering , because , the wrongs become even
more high-lighted as do the senses.
Often people only become re-aware due to a major
crisis in their lives -
once again it hightens the senses.
There will come a time when you will stay in your
higher self -maybe you are pulling other's back down
with disbelief due to you not staying there too?
 

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

Curmudgeon [no longer around] said Aug 9, 2007, 3:33 AM:
 

Hmmm, well, one can be centered in stillness and mindfullness, without being surrounded by joy and peace, though being surrounded with joy and peace is certainly helpful. But then it wouldn't be much good for the mass of humanity which is surrounded by anything but joy and peace. Interior joy and peace would be a result of being centered at the still place, then like a bank account the peace will accumulate as one can be in that place more and more. It also helps one deal with the surroundings which may be less than joyful and peaceful.
  helenrscp : Joy Within

Re: Higher Vision as the Norm

helenrscp said Aug 9, 2007, 12:10 PM:
 

This is a post from a friend at the Living Metaphysics pod:

The Tao teaches us to hold two opposing ideas in our minds at the same time.  We are yin and we are yang, we are male and female energy, we are the light and the darkness.  This has the ability to lift us up out of appearances and allows us to discover the commonality what connects all.  It is there that power exists, that everything that is forms and then comes into being.


The Tao teaches us that the universal timetable is not necessary our idea of “when”.  You can't push the river.  You can't plant a tomato seed one day and get tomatoes a week later.  The Tao has a similar concept to Ernest Holmes' law of cause and effect.  It teaches that there is a very simple secret in the universe - change the way you look at things and the things you look at change.  You are still in the same world - things just are as they are - but what you notice has changed to support your perception (ie more supportive, more loving, more peaceful, etc).


The Tao says “Stop trying.  Just be.  Refrain from doing.”  What the Tao is trying to tell us is to yield, flow and bend - rather than be rigid and fixed.  Allow things to happen instead of trying to make them happen (allowing is a key concept in Abraham-Hicks philosophy).  Water is used a lot in the Tao, Abraham-Hicks speaks of going downstream.  All these common threads always speak to me of different ways of looking at the same truth. 

I was moved by this when I read it (enough to copy it to my clipboard) and imagine my surprise when I retrieved it just now to see what it said and it seemed to fit.

My belief is that as we choose higher vision, within ourselves, by whatever method…we are planting a seed not just within ourselves but one that grows in ways we may not be aware of in the world of form.  Every time I've tried to post here, I've felt like I was almost incoherent…so this pod may not be for me.

I think that my intentions are powerful, not by force but by allowing.  I like the idea of using my unique gifts (and what I believe is inherent within everyone)  to intentionally uplift the human condition…but I'm far from being sure about how to accomplish that.

Just because we're on zaadz, I don't think that means that we have the same spiritual or world views.  I'd like to hear more about others' belief systems as we are forming a community of sorts.  Maybe I've misunderstood, but it seems like there have been some pronouncements about “how it works”…and I don't think anyone can do that for anyone but themselves.