Art after the Change

Having studied Art History of India for many years at the university, I want to give us something to think about here.

Imagine we achieve the changes we want to make, and the world is a better place and a happier place. What would artistic expression look like?

I am wondering about this because the motivation for art has always been different. There were times when art was born from suffering and depression. Then there was art which criticised the current government or social system. There was art which was paid for by governments or kings to have it decorate their palaces. And then there was art which was motivated by spiritual or religious devotion.

Some say, art has to have a message, different layers of interpretation and it certainly can't be just nice to look at. So…how do you imagine art after the change in the brave new world of the future we start to create?

Best wishes

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Great question!

I will speak to the re-envisioning of art that i aspire to….”art as philosophy” to me is about art with purpose. So in the brave new compassionate world of the future art is the overarching framework that is used to develop solutions for the most complicated challenges. When everyone is scratching their heads and only able to see through the lens of the past, it will art that enters to save the day with its gift to enable creators to see with fresh eyes, minds and hearts united the results are more holistic and easily integrated as more people shake off old assumptions.

In the future more of us will have found the courage to step into ”unknowing” and that will free more of us to discover so society as a whole will be more loving, creative and inspired. It will be passion for creative expression and social capital that will be driving forces for a new open economy. This shift empowers the many instead of the few so the traditional will adjust and grow in positive ways so that a point of interface can be utilized to maintain continuity during the transition.

Thanks for that chance to daydream :-)

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Great topic Chrysalis!! I like what Yvette had to say and think that yes, artists will be those who have the minds to solve the problems of our future. But I'm thinking even beyond that, imagining that we are so successful as to completely rid ourselves of fear in the world. Complete overcoming of poverty and repression.

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Bobby, i really like where you went with your post/vision…..That is awesomely inspiring. This part especially clicked for me:

I'd say a lot of our artwork will move towards beautifying the ugliness we've created. What are we gonna do with all the highrises? Maybe there'll be an organisation that works on supporting a city vine system that has really awesome air cleaning properties? Part of the artwork of filling a city with greenery again is that everybody experiences cleaner air. Greener energy. More heart chakra. I imagine in a free world unbound by fear there will be many more things like this that will come about… we're truly in for an interesting ride! What on earth would you create if you could create anything?

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Frankly, for me it is hard to fanthom how art would be after the change, but all of your ideas have given me some inspiration to my mind scarred by images of worldly suffering.

Yvette's suggestion that art is a non-verbal language, made me think very hard about the communicability of art to all. I think everyone has the potential to view what we now call canonical works of art, but to comprehend it requires a grasp of certain symbols and signifiers that are specific to a certain cultural or sub-cultural group.

when Yvette spoke of  'unknowing' do you mean that art should return to a point, when an idea was less emotionally charged… an idea that is on the verge of  being articulated by words, but could be universally understood through art in various mediums.

gosh this is a tough thread to consider. [I need to put a little more though into it]

I want to make art less “A”rt and more 'art'. But I don't want a Maoist “Art for the People!”

If art is self-expression, I think it can be seen as agency, or empowerment. If this logic follows, ultimately art is empowerment. Whether it can be comprehended by others is a different story.

To me
Art after change… should not be art for art's sake,  nor should it serve the society, rather society would recognize the right to agency of all, and everyday life becomes an art.

Life, not as the distopic spectacle it is now, but rather a carnivalesque life, where authority is not completely dispersed, but kept in check by  a citizenry or collective concerned with mutual well being placed on par with individual self-expression [agency]…
it is but a dream.

My conflation of agency, art, and life comes from being witness to, as well as being complicit in the dominant order of repression. I place my hopes in an idea articulated by the sociologist Michel de Certeau called  ”Le Perrugue” (the wig?). Le Perrugue suggests that one can do for oneself in the guise of what is done for the employer or the system.

A corporeal art of taking back one's time, mind, and body [agency] from the necrophilic mechanisms of control. This is an art, whose main purpose is not to be understood, but to facilitate liberation if only for a moment.

It is performance, it is   agency, it is      freedom to self-express.

Often times it does not leave a trace, and it could not be witnessed long enough for many others to admire…

 a spark in the darkness

beautiful no?

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Apparently I gave a rather difficult topic to discuss. But I can see where it goes. Human beings seem to be born with the need to be creative, to create something that takes their soul out in public. Some do it with books, some with poems, some become chefs, some become designers. It will be interesting to see how art is developing, because it will depend on the human soul as much as it ever did. We can only work on the soul matter and people will express themselves from there. I hope to live and see that.

Best wishes

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I find this interesting because I have
really given the matter some thought
- being an artist myself.
I have long felt that Art is the best way to tell
any story.
Although the “fashion” of art changes -
art itself will always live on.

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I will post a quick note that got me re looking for this thread to post my comment … been waiting for a few days now… could'nt think of  anything conclusive…. heres my story to describe my answer

Assuming a “Good World ” f r u i t s  ..That  would mean having Redeemed ( we are talking future !! ) corporations to  the  mystical  to healing centers, different new Real meet ups and Pods …. practicle community .. 'intentional' communities taking control of the physical ZEN World they dwell in…. New arty would 3D, 4D 5D .. Zero's 1's exhibits, new acceptances from the human body … to a dilution of hidden mis-interpreted fetish scenes…. skin strech OOOhch. … i'll leave the links out…
However future ART will be ………………LIKE
 bansky.co.uk   City realism ……….
and LIVE NATURE ARTIST Goldsworthy (www.artcyclopedia.com/artists/goldsworthy_andy.html )
and theres many others I cannot remember right now… these  innovations would WILL FLOURISH…

ALSO in the cities artists would be into interior decor….making half their unnecessary shopping malls into big lounges, meditation centers, guided meeting rooms … Real stuff…Rehab to tai chi on the plastic peninsulars ..haha..or what ever art springs to that….. Why is there SHOPPING every where … I cannot wait for the change.

Jules