Domus Ulixes : Some Kid

Re: Science is a cult???

Domus Ulixes said Aug 15, 2007, 1:43 PM:

 

Actually as a scientist myself, there are not always other researchers verifying results. Though, in the most fundemantal basis of physics, any veryfication of a good research should by fact result into the same conclusion. That doesn't always happen, is responsible for some of the greatest discoveries, if not The, of all time.

And yes, most stuff is easily veryfied, at least, with old research. Imagine though, that this isn't always available. It becomes even more troublesome when there is no theoretical backround. In that case, any verification can only be made be experimenting it on your own.

There are several kinds of scientists,
I'll describe the 3 kinds I've met in my life;

The Capatalistic breeded Scientist, (America, Brittain, other highly developed capatalistic societies):

Now The Capatalisitc Breeded Scientist excell the most, however the amount of excellers is quite low. For research they need to find their own Financial backround. They need to contact industries to invest in their research. This poses with the problem, that they have to publish a lot, and make name, in order to gain funding. This greatly reduces the easy with which is researched, and greatly increases the pressure to publish something fantastic. This however also produces the highest grade of scientists, if they at least can cope with the pressure, and do not publish falacies or research which has been meddled with.
It however also is depended on the Market interests. Leaving certain fields of science, completely disregarded, and other over researched, like with calori use in respect to age. :s

The The socialistic breeded Scientist (Germany, Switserland, Holland and all the other governemental financed researchers):
Now The Socialistic Scientist gets his money from the state. And he research (if he is lucky) what he pleases to research, or else what the board of University scholars choose to research. Also the state has some influence in this. This is why Socialistic researches can easily compete with the Capatalistic Researches on things like Warfare, and other state conceirned matters. (Hence, the cold War)
However, this also means that there is a very wide and even spread in the research area. everything becomes researched. And is not depended on popular demand. This does however result into a low known-around-the-globe thingy. It however greatly increases the objectivity. There is hardly any publication pressure (except in state conceirned research) If no results are made, this is also a good way of spending time. If so hadn't been discovered before. It also requires them though to make a very thorough research, it takes much more time, and the results are though less in amount, greatly larger in objectivity and quality. This is why rather often a Nobelprize winner was a socialistic researcher, however not counteracted by the capatalistic researchers.


The Beginning Science Societies. (Only China and Japan for all I know, haven't met more):
They know hell of a lot. They are so eager to learn, and are basicly walking encyclopedia's and calculators. They are perfect for engineers etc. They are also very well, in completly exploiting known idea's putting its charastaristics to the ultimate. They are great engineers and developers. However, because they are such know it all's and calculators. They achieve little to none new scientific discoveries. They are actually even afraid to challange existing idea's. The Chinese governement for instance knows this. And Import high ranking Socialistic and Capatalistic scientists. To teach their scientists to challange existing idea's, and excell in discovery. Hence, hardly any of these scientists have ever one the nobelprize. Though they are greatly superior on engineering fields.

That was basicly it.