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Re: Alternative Views

janos said Oct 21, 2008, 5:56 PM:

Sara,
You are raising some important Questions.

Global warming is the big red herring our our century. When an issue is embraced by the establishment and its mouthpiece, the popular media, it is indeed “time to take another look”.

What is not realised in sufficient detail by the climate skeptics is that “it's the economy, stupid”.
It is not global warming that is threatening the earth's ability to support us, but the rapacious economic system this primitive version of capitalism is maintaining.

The question of Big Bang is another issue — a modern genesis story for the modern mind, just as the Genesis account of creation was a story adequate for the peoples of those bygone times.

In my opinion, it would be a mistake and diversion to attach the same kind of harmfulness to the Big Bang deception as the one perpetrated by the climate change lobby. This is because I do not think that the big bang view has the direct impact of diminishing political and economic liberty.

Nevertheless, the video is very interesting.

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Re: Alternative Views

Gypster said Oct 21, 2008, 9:58 PM:

On the contrary, challenging the scientific community does have an impact on true economic freedom.

The CERN collider cost 6.5 billion. For what? Really, what USE? Even Stephen Hawkings thinks it's a big flop. Europeans AND Americans paid with their tax dollars. So this type of socialism is OK and feeding starving children is not?

NASA and other “space agencies” around the world spend billions sending probes to Mars, etc… For WHAT? HOW does this benefit humanity? Really? Truly? Who benefits?

We should consider that one major player is at work here, one of the same players that instigates and profits from war… and 9/11… Raytheon.

Raytheon is also involved in another very expensive tax sponsored project called the National Polar-orbiting Operational Environmental Satellite System (NPOESS) network.

ALL of this is connected to just a few groups. We need to expose these players, and the lies that permeate our culture to it's very core, so that we can really be free of ALL their fascist tricks.

And also, if we don't break ourselves free of this new order of the lab coat (instead of the cloth) then we'll never know freedom from manipulation.

with love,

sara

Re: Alternative Views

Spundana *~The Cosmic Vibration~* said Oct 21, 2008, 10:05 PM:

Absolutely agrees with Sara/ Gypster. She has hit the nail on its head. RAYTHEON must be exposed.
Good work there. Love n Light
Jagan R

Re: Alternative Views

Domus Ulixes said Oct 23, 2008, 2:45 PM:

I must differ. Cern cost indeed 6.5 Billion Euro's. And for what? Well, the most biggest and highest advanced piece of science ever made. And it is been made out of pure science, so, there is nobody gaining a profit. It is a giant collaboration project from scientists in dozens of countries. Paying minimal costs. One F22 raptor fighterjet costs about as much as its bombload. (133 million) And the American war budget has cost america. War costs so much more.
And why would we spend it on science? Well, then people finish the standard model. But that little money, is a bargain for all the peace, and bonds created between countries because of the project.

Probes to mars?
What would have happened if we didn't invest in science? We wouldn't be here now, we wouldn't even be haveing this conversation. As the matter of fact, Earth wouldn't be able to support half of the population it is in today. Science expands, knowledge expands, until we find propper ways to apply it.
A scientist researches new grounds, it tries to help the future. He isn't busy trying to improve his own life now, he knows he can do better, to provide options for people in the future. Sure, it won't help society now, but in the future, it might just support a billion marsian inhabitants. Would they lynch you, if you would try to stop their home from being explorer?

If you dislike Raytheon, what on earth are you doing critising CERN For?!?!?!