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Re: 108

janos said Dec 24, 2008, 3:10 PM:

In one dimension,
there is a threefold division into Self, Tribe (circle of interpersonal relations) and World, which forms a generic basis for viewing organizational structure.
In another dimension, there is a fourfold division that corresponds to the four elements; in terms of human society, these would be Labour, Economy, Law and Education.

“Geometry of vision”. I like this term

Would the “triads” within the fourfold division be a third dimenision of a of a three dimensional (cuboid) “vision space”?

Just playing with the elements:

Self

Labour

Economy

Law

Education

Tribe

Labour

Economy

Law

Education

World

Labour

Economy

Law

Education

Not sure what this gives

Have you a visual sketch of the scheme you are developing?

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Re: 108

Arinaya said Jan 2, 8:04 PM:

Not sure what this gives.

On its own, nothing, obviously. A meaningless intellectual exercise, perhaps. It does seem rather childish.

At its core it is a kind of meta-theory or meta-view of existence and life as a whole. Diversity and unity resolved in mutual accord without abrogating one to the other.

Normally we govern ourselves both individually and collectively according to a fragmented consciousness, narrowly confined to a more or less limited scope of time and circumstance.

But humanity is growing into its cosmic self and will one day achieve a self-government of enlightened universal self-interest; then these kinds of views might be of more practical interest. For now it is a more or less pointless exercise.

Think of it though, if each person on the planet – or even a small powerful minority – chose to balance their personal needs with their community's needs and the needs of the earth as a whole, if this was our individual and collective concept and feeling of self-interest, what would the result be?

Give at a few hundred years, and we'll talk about it again…

Re: 108

mita said Jan 3, 11:07 AM:

Hi janos and Arinaya

My quick thought on this division or dimension of self, tribe, world from interpersonal relation and its expression in human systems and relations …labour, law, economy, education can be framed in a more holistic way when we see humanity transpersonally as one collective body-mind one organism in relationship with other non-human life forms plant, animals, minerals, elements or the deep ecology of the planet or planetary body of which humanity (as one body-mind) is one part. If humanity is the brain of planetary body, in order to sustain itself …it needs to be wise and intelligent and not be suicidal or addicted to destructive behavior.

My way of building intelligent, wise and compassionate socio-economic systems and cultures of peace is to create a sustainable debt-free currency of peace (currency as “a tool of communication” as I define it).

Currency of debt is a tool of war, injustice, terrorism of the rich and cunning over the poor, educated, yet ignorant (which include all of us, as far a monetary litercay goes). A deep awareness is necessary. See more on my blog Deep Conscious Capitalism