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  ~C4Chaos : (hyper)linker

The State of Web 2.0

~C4Chaos said Apr 4, 2006, 9:41 PM:
 

this thing needs a good SHOUT OUT! so there.

The State of Web 2.0

by Dion Hinchcliffe
“Now that Web 2.0 has had its mainstream media coming-out party in both Newsweek and Slate recently (here and here), I thought I'd take some time this afternoon and try to get a real sense of the prevailing winds.   Before I go further, I would ask all of you with innate dislike of the term to please hold it in for the length of this piece and actually read it.  And everyone, please share your thoughts in the comments below.  Also note that this is my personal assessment of Web 2.0 and is not official in any way.  Please take everything I say here with a grain of salt but know that the facts presented here are as accurate as I could make them.”
  ~C4Chaos : (hyper)linker

Re: The State of Web 2.0

~C4Chaos said Apr 4, 2006, 9:50 PM:
 
Web2architecture

ripped from The State of Web 2.0 by Dion Hinchcliffe so that this image can be shared more freely without taking toll on his bandwidth :)
  David : BodhiGeek

Re: The State of Web 2.0

David said Apr 5, 2006, 11:29 AM:
 

My take on Web 2.0…  It's nice.  That's it.  It's nice.

It's sorta hard for me to get excited about it.  The reasons are twofold.  First, most of Web 2.0, with the exception of Ajax and P2P data/content, was part and parcel of my work about 4 years back.   I was gonna use a different “2nd”, but circumstances just inspired to to state:  2nd, it often blows up in your face!!!]

I'm honestly not terribly thrilled about P2P content.  What I find myself wanting in an online experience these days is efficiency.  Give me what I want, and let me get on with my life.  Sometimes P2P succeeds here, often it creates too much noise and not nearly enough signal.  One place P2P has served me well is Digg.  The system of having the masses vote on the value of the content helps somewhat reduce the noise.  It reduces it to a level that allows me to skim the RSS feed for whatever nuggets might be worthwhile to me.  Blogs are much the same.  I select a few where I feel pretty good about the blogmeister serving as a gatekeeper for what gets pumped in front of me.

AJAX?  AJAX has the potential to be insanely cool.  There are some great AJAX interfaces out there.  But when I look at an AJAX interface, I want it too add value.  Ideally, make my browsing experience more efficient so I can glean what I want/need and get on with my life.

The rest of it…  Web services, multiple devices, all that jazz…  Well, DUH!!!

Maybe I'm just getting old and crotchety.  So…  Stay off my damn grass!!!   ;-)

-D
  ~C4Chaos : (hyper)linker

Re: The State of Web 2.0

~C4Chaos said Apr 5, 2006, 12:11 PM:
 

i'm not gonna argue with you BodhiGeek, because you're geekier than me. so i'll just quote the article above and let it support my own bias…

”The disconnect between the technicians and the architects and CTOs  seems to come particularly from the social aspect of Web 2.0.  It's this piece that often flips the “bozo bit” of technical people, who often have engineering background that demand explanations in terms of technology and often don't appreciate the social dimension.  Web 2.0 just doesn't have that technological bent other than liking Web services, Ajax, and radical decentralization, which bring the services, content, and rich experiences to mass audiences.  Web 2.0 is really a set of related forces, design patterns, and business models that are increasingly emerging onto the world stage.  And these elements frequently defy detailed technical quantification, despite Tim O'Reilly's consummately well written description of Web 2.0 last year.  It also has not helped that numerous folks have tried to co-opt the term for their own marketing and investment reasons, often without properly understanding what Web 2.0 is. ”