Gaia: Pathless Land: A Krishnamurti Community - Introductions

Re: Welcome to New Members

http://MarkDuBois.gaia.com — Sun, 31 May 2009 12:56:52 GMT

Bruce,

"I also came across K's work when I was about 20, and it had a powerful impact on me,..."

That's right, anyone that really gets K will be powerfully impacted and be able to do something with it. The mission statement for this group is vague and needs to be updated.

Mark

Re: Welcome to New Members

Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:10:28 GMT

If I recall correctly when reading K he basically led the audience to unravel their assumptions about the world, gently, like peeling an onion (no reference th Shrek intended). When he got to the core he would not describe it or "mentalize" it but pointed to the non-conceptual awe that exists there at the core of ourselves....Eckhart Tolle speaks of this recently... in K's personal writings, he reveals all kinds of forms to describe the core phenomena--probable from his occult/theosophical upbringing. K articulates what Aurobindo teaches: keep a silent mind.

Cheers, Kev

Re: Welcome to New Members

http://brucealderman.gaia.com — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:08:28 GMT

Welcome, Frans and Marcus! Please feel free to start discussions on any aspect of K's teachings you are interested in, or to join one of the discussions that are already underway. I also came across K's work when I was about 20, and it had a powerful impact on me, and I was able to visit the Oak Grove School, the Rajghat Besant School, and Brockwood Park a number of years later. Beautiful places. Oases. Hopefully we can make this little pocket of cyberspace into such an oasis for inquiry and affectionate relationship.

Re: Welcome to New Members

Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:01:52 GMT

Hi, I'm new to Zaadz and was happy to find a little K community here. I've been interested in his work for what seems like a long time. First came across it when I was 20 - was lucky enough to be taken to wonderful Brockwood Park by a friend . Hope I'll be joining in the dialogues here once I get the hang of how everything works.

Marcus

Re: Welcome to New Members

http://onthetrail.gaia.com — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:39:36 GMT

Hello all, I am very happy to join this pod; K has been an increasingly more important influence on my thinking over the past years. One of my main areas of interest are his views on education; both because that's obviously a place where real change has fertile ground and also because I am a new dad (3 week old little girl), and I know I don't want to rely on the Canadian schooling system alone. I'm looking forward to learning and contributing! Love, Frans

Re: Welcome to New Members

http://bashoslogx2.gaia.com — Sun, 15 Apr 2007 06:25:27 GMT

hi theuri-

'Is it always problematic to take a stance?'

taking a 'stance'. what does that mean to you?

when i take a 'stance', where does this 'stance' originate?

does it originate in my view, my opinion of what the reality of the moment is?

if so then there will always be a conflict with someone elses stance, no?

but in understanding the root of my 'stance', i am free of it.

mind is clear. possibilities are endless.

the best-
basho

Re: Welcome to New Members

http://theurj.gaia.com — Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:16:55 GMT

I joined this pod because I'm struggling with how to take multiple perspectives without attaching to any one perspective, even a "better, more inclusive" one. And it seems to me that this is one of the things that K teaches. I found this summed up in Balder's comments below from the "K and the new atheists" thread:

We're coming to some interesting questions. At least, here are the questions that are coming up for me:

Is it always problematic to take a stance? What is involved in taking a position? When we take a stance with regard to a particular issue, what are we doing? Is it possible to not take a stance, when even choosing not to form an opinion or take a stand with regard to an issue can be seen, in itself, as another position?

Other questions that also arise: Should we choose not to act on particular issues, especially in the social sphere, until we have first transformed individually? It may be fairly easy to avoid taking a position when people are acting in ways that are only subtly or indirectly violent, as when they choose to adopt exclusivist belief systems, but what about those instances when an ideological movement is training people (including children) to hate, kill, and commit suicide?

If "taking a (conceptual/ideological) position" is necessarily limiting, is there a way we can nevertheless engage effectively with ourselves, others, and the world at large - without retreating into a noncommittal quietism that amounts to an avoidance of the world?

Re: Welcome to New Members

http://sanjivartz.gaia.com — Sat, 31 Mar 2007 17:19:02 GMT

Hi
I am trying to live, not merely existing and in this forum will be a great help.
Regards
Sanjiv

Re: Hi Sharat here

http://brucealderman.gaia.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 14:30:32 GMT

Welcome, Sharat! I look forward to interacting and inquiring with you on this forum.

I also want to welcome Cutflower and Mukesh, who have recently joined this forum. Feel free to introduce yourselves!

Best wishes,

Balder

Re: Hi Sharat here

http://chaitanya.gaia.com — Wed, 21 Mar 2007 06:05:11 GMT

Welcome to the forum. Hope this helps us all. Hope your presence accelerates the pace of self-enquiry.
Chaitanya

Hi Sharat here

http://sharat.gaia.com — Tue, 20 Mar 2007 17:45:37 GMT

Well I have'nt read JK extensively and I have had the opportunity to read some of his work also some on his teachings. I am keen to share and also read what others on Zaadz have to say and yes its ggod to be here!

Love to all

Re: Welcome to New Members

Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:34:02 GMT

Amazing isn't it Balder, this is really amazing

I know the Krishnamurti who you tell about afterall i knew him from reading a book
The Awakening of Intelligence, you must know..

And BTW i am having all his books yes its a kind of intellectual fetish or just a vast
library ~ if you like to also have it pls let me know

yosyama

Re: Welcome to New Members

http://kirstenz.gaia.com — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:33:38 GMT

must say i am pleased with this mixing up of the both Krishnamurti's,
i watched some video's from UG and it had a great impact on me,
if i understood it correctly UG was a student of Jiddu, and later he went his own path..
yes balder.. both talking about the pathless.. both walking alone their own path.
i guess UG is going a bit further with the insights.. he states it a bit more radical, all.
i love the friendly Jiddu, his patience and his aura of love..
but i do like the 'to-the-core'-attitude of UG too.

love to you all dear friends,
busy times keep me from contributing more here,
but i do read it all and it's wonderful to see how smoothly the pod is getting form..

Re: Welcome to New Members

http://brucealderman.gaia.com — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:25:01 GMT

Jiddu Krishnamurti was the boy who was "discovered" by the Theosophists and raised to be the World Teacher. Years later, after he dissolved the Order of the Star, he was giving a teaching, and a man named U.G. Krishnamurti was in the audience. U.G. says he had a spiritual awakening after listening to J. Krishnamurti's talk, and he ended up becoming a teacher in his own right.

Re: Welcome to New Members

Sat, 17 Mar 2007 16:15:03 GMT

U.G. is Krishnamurti, thats how his close friends called him
Not only you can find his picture on-line if you look for U.G.
but also i saw movie with him and Byron Katie, which can
i believe be watched now on Youtube, where she sweetly
calling him U.G.
...
or i am wrong, in which case thanks for showing me;)
and here is i think a photo that is surely his hmmm ?

Re: Welcome to New Members

http://brucealderman.gaia.com — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:50:26 GMT

Welcome, Meenakshi and Yosyama!

Meenakshi, what a blessing, to have been able to meet Krishnamurti and to listen to him under the trees. I never got the chance to meet him, though I've visited a number of his centers and met many people close to him. I discovered his teachings in 1986, which I believe was the year he passed away. I went to a Gathering in Ojai a year or two after he passed away, and I remember having the feeling that I'd just "missed" something enormous, the echoes of which still vibrated in the air.

Yosyama, UG Krishnamurti is not the same individual as J. Krishnamurti, as I'm sure you know -- though their pathless paths were obviously connected.

Best wishes,

Balder

Re: Welcome to New Members

Sat, 17 Mar 2007 05:49:36 GMT

Hi,
UG as i'm feeling allowed to call him today; is my loved teacher.
I love him for more than one reason but to start with; because i can not
take falsehood.

I may or not contribute to this board i have no idea, but i am glad
to find it here!

There are two things i want to say which sum into one.
First, his life was revolving and i am looking into his initiation as
'world teacher' in a time of great turbulence when in my mind -
possibly the strongest spiritual wave ever occurred in recorded history.

During that very massive BLOW; UG founded his teaching and his
way was decided so that time defines him. Therefore it would be good
to add an acknowledgment that tells the story of that HUGE BLOW and how
with or despite it all, his teaching emerged in relation to both movements
existed then and the people and how free it is after all!

Add to it; UG at that time, and if i attribute a time to him; in his earlier
years, in the early years of the Twenties Century; his beautiful message, his
such deepest message of truth, you need a photo from those days that will
show the real man, the powerful messenger of truth that he is with his vigorous
conviction and that clear look in his eyes with his simple and so serious expression
and his beauty as a man, i say you can not take a photo of him when 90 and say
this was Krishnamurti.

So i took my time and found a photo of his when 40 or so to show him for how he
really was for our kind eyes:

Beblessed namaste yosyama

Re: Welcome to New Members

http://Meenakshi.gaia.com — Sat, 17 Mar 2007 03:28:41 GMT

Hi all,
I met Krishnamurti at several times in ch ildhood, as we'd hear him whenever he came to where we were staying. Memories of him walking solitary along a river, greeting us so humbly when we were introduced to him, as if saying - "What? YOu want to meet me? Why?"
So different from his rather stern personality... actually remote but passionate - if I can convey the impression he gave as a speaker.
Always came at the dot of 6 p.m. and left at the dot of 7 p.m. Only the leaves stirred...even the kids in the audience would be spellbound...

I'm glad to have found this pod!

Re: Welcome to New Members

http://brucealderman.gaia.com — Fri, 23 Feb 2007 02:43:52 GMT

Hi, David. Welcome to the pod! And how fortunate to have been able to attend the Oak Grove School... I've visited there and it is a beautiful place. It has been years since I've been there, but I check their site from time to time and read what they're up to.

Best wishes,

B.

Re: Welcome to New Members

http://soldierofthesun.gaia.com — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 23:50:47 GMT

Hi Balder,

I met Krishnamurti when I was 8 or 9 and I had been going to his school for 4 years in Ojai, California. At the time I only saw him as an intense, kind old man. I didn't understand what he said to me, my parents and during his talks until about 10 years later. He was always pointing at the truth even if it took many years before people who listened got what he was saying. Krishnamurti was indeed a kind, humble, direct and seriously funny man as I recollect without ever entertaining all the hype around him. He's one of the great teachers and he founded a beautiful school which I had the priveledge of attending.