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Tao - The Way of Lao-tzudebyemm said Aug 4, 2007, 2:52 PM: |
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I discovered Taoism about 8 mos ago when I read a book that had been in my library for several years - The Tao of Pooh and The Te of Piglet by Benjamin Hoff. In reading Winnie the Pooh, to my nursing infant 6 years ago while feeding him, I was struck by the timeless quality of the stories and of course, their relevancy to my little boy who would grow up exploring the woods of our wild and rural Missouri forest. I have been wanting to get into a discussion of Taoism here in this because I think it represents the Yin of metaphysics, while the passion for practice, for active application of The Science of Mind philosophy represents the Yang. I am going to definitely want to discuss Benjamin Hoff's book in more detail some other time. I would also like to explore some of the bits and pieces of the Tao Te Ching as this thread develops. I had already been working on a beginning thread on Taoism for a couple of days when, as I began to explore this month's Aug 2007 Science Of Mind magazine, I almost laughed out loud, for there in its pages is an article about Wayne Dyer's new book about Taoism called Change Your Thoughts, Change Your Life. This phrase is very similar to one the SOM has used for many, many years (change your thinking, change your life). I thought about buying his book and considered that perhaps I should buy it from Science of Mind's bookseller, when I received the current offering from One Spirit and decided to go with them, because their offer includes a Change Your Thoughts Meditation CD (total cost is $29.99 if you are already a member, more if not). One Spirit can be reached online at http://www.onespirit.com/. There is also a link there, where you can “Do The Tao Now”. Dr Dyer will also be seen on PBS this month. So, I thought before I go any further with what I was writing, I'd just go ahead and comment on/summarize from the SOM magazine article first. Tao can also be thought of as another name for Source Energy. When you consciously connect with this invisible intelligence, you begin to understand that you can trust it, even more than you trust in the things your senses tell you are real. Tao is the supreme reality, the pervasive, all that transcends, yet animates all that is. It does not begin or end. In Tao, you learn that before any thing you can know physically was, it was an invisible intelligence first. Lao-tzu (author of the Tao Te Ching) calls everything that exists, the “world of the ten thousand things”. All being comes from nonbeing. As soon as you try to name the placeless place of the invisible, you lose it. The opening line of the Tao Te Ching says that the “Tao that can be named is not the Tao.” or as Kierkegaard said, “Once you label me, you negate me.” When you try to label anything you experience, you negate it because you become more focused on the label, than on what the experience has to teach you. The truth is the truth - until you organize it and then it often becomes a lie. Using metaphor, ambiguity and paradox, the Tao tries to convey truths our minds can't otherwise comprehend. The Tao says “do little and get a lot done” or don't “take on big things and that way big things are accomplished”. The Tao does nothing but leaves nothing undone. Our minds are like prisms. When light hits a prism, the prism refracts the light into hundreds or thousands or millions of little pieces and divides things up. The mind is always carving things up. Behind that carved up multiplicity or even duality, there's oneness, a place of no division. Think of the number 0. You cut it in half again and again and you always end up with 0. Add it together over and over and you still end up with 0. The Tao teaches us to hold two opposing ideas in our minds at the same time. We are yin and we are yang, we are male and female energy, we are the light and the darkness. This has the ability to lift us up out of appearances and allows us to discover the commonality what connects all. It is there that power exists, that everything that is forms and then comes into being. The Tao teaches us that the universal timetable is not necessary our idea of “when”. You can't push the river. You can't plant a tomato seed one day and get tomatoes a week later. The Tao has a similar concept to Ernest Holmes' law of cause and effect. It teaches that there is a very simple secret in the universe - change the way you look at things and the things you look at change. You are still in the same world - things just are as they are - but what you notice has changed to support your perception (ie more supportive, more loving, more peaceful, etc). The Tao says “Stop trying. Just be. Refrain from doing.” What the Tao is trying to tell us is to yield, flow and bend - rather than be rigid and fixed. Allow things to happen instead of trying to make them happen (allowing is a key concept in Abraham-Hicks philosophy). Water is used a lot in the Tao, Abraham-Hicks speaks of going downstream. All these common threads always speak to me of different ways of looking at the same truth. The Tao teaches non-violence. “No tree has branches so foolish as to fight among themselves, because the branches would realize that they're going to kill the whole tree in the process of doing so.” An excerpt from Dr Dyer's new book is especially meaningful to me now as I watch the decline in my dear in-laws. It is from the 23rd verse of the Tao Te Ching - “You are part of the law of form in time and space, composing and decomposing. Everything in nature is returning to its Source … The question is, do you wish to participate consciously with this natural goodness, or would you rather spend your moments in anxiety and failure?” … our ego believes in the ability to force things, make things happen or be in charge. The Tao teaches us that “the Way is responsible for everything, with a naturalness” that isn't forced. What “seems so devastating in the moment is benevolent perfection in another moment”. By conforming “to the naturalness of the universe, you cooperate with this all-creating power that flows through you.” |
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Re: Tao - meets Osho Zen Tarotdebyemm said Aug 5, 2007, 12:46 PM: |
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I drew this card from the website today |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzuhelenrscp said Aug 6, 2007, 7:50 AM: |
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Wow! So beautiful and truly uplifting. I especially loved this: “Our minds are like prisms. When light hits a prism, the prism refracts the light into hundreds or thousands or millions of little pieces and divides things up. The mind is always carving things up. Behind that carved up multiplicity or even duality, there's oneness, a place of no division.” |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzudebyemm said Aug 6, 2007, 3:37 PM: |
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Helen, And your imagery of wiggling, splashing and swimming upstream for contrast - how perfect for a blistery day. Thank you for your kind personal thoughts. A wonderful young lady started working today to assist my in-laws with their daily chores - when I left everyone seemed comfortable and happy, now that she is there (we are easing into it with lunch to dinner 5-6 days per week or no more than 40 hrs, it's a good start I think). The days that remain will be a little brighter now and the way this young lady came into our lives is nothing short of remarkable. I'll have to write about it soon. All the best, Deb |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzuhelenrscp said Aug 8, 2007, 1:47 PM: |
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Deb, |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzuFlowerchild said Aug 9, 2007, 8:25 AM: |
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Dr. Wayne Dyer has a book out Change Your Thoughts Change Your LIfe and is based on the Tao verse by verse. I just ordered it. Looks interesting. |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzuhelenrscp said Aug 9, 2007, 10:52 AM: |
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Last night I watched the Wayne Dyer PBS special “Change Your Thoughts, Change Your Life.” (I recorded it on 8/6) It was great and it seems like a progression of his previous work, even though the Tao Te Ching is ancient. |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzudebyemm said Aug 23, 2007, 6:37 AM: |
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This week, I did receive the Change Your Thoughts, Change Your Life book along with the meditation CD by Wayne Dyer. The CD is a very different experience for me. Each track has one piece of a verse. Then the word Tao is repeated in a long drawn out chant 3 times. At first, this felt very strange to me. I was listening while I hiked and I found it difficult to chant along because he has very extended breath control. I have finally developed a method of taking a tiny breath as he emphasizes the “o”. |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzuFlowerchild said Aug 23, 2007, 8:36 AM: |
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Oh goodie! I just got an email from Amazon today that mine is on the way. I also got the meditation CD. I read the reviews and some said that it was very different. |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzudebyemm said Aug 23, 2007, 4:00 PM: |
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Denise, |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzudebyemm said Aug 23, 2007, 6:06 PM: |
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Denise, |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzuFlowerchild said Aug 23, 2007, 6:40 PM: |
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Oh not a problem Deb. I just got back from taking a test tonight. I felt really good about it and the final is on Monday. And yes, this is a priority. Massage therapy has been a long time goal of mine and I'm finally doing it and it FEELS good! ; ) |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzudebyemm said Aug 24, 2007, 8:34 AM: |
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I thought this might be of interest to those following this thread - Hay House, the publisher of many spiritual items, I believe also includes Abraham-Hicks - has podcasts of Dr Wayne Dyer, including the July 30th episode focused on The Wisdom of Tao and his new book - |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzuFlowerchild said Aug 24, 2007, 9:01 AM: |
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I'm listening to it now! It's interesting that dr. WD says that he almost felt like he was channeling while writing the book. I saw the PBS special on his new book, that's what prompted me to order it. I hope it comes today!!!! |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzudebyemm said Aug 25, 2007, 6:54 AM: |
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Denise, |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzuFlowerchild said Aug 25, 2007, 2:48 PM: |
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Yes! I felt that! First I thought if they had some kind of conversation before going live, but they didn't! How could he know that! LOL |
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Re: Tao - Posting Versesdebyemm said Aug 26, 2007, 1:35 PM: |
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I would like to start in on our new discussion board - The Verses of the Tao Te Ching (found at the bottom of our list) - this next week. |
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Re: Tao Te Ching resources for Dr Dyer's bookdebyemm said Aug 27, 2007, 11:58 AM: |
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Dr Wayne Dyer consulted 10 different versions of the Tao Te Ching - definitely 5 of which were quite old and 5 of which were more modern. They are listed in the Acknowledgments of his book, Change Your Thoughts, Change Your Life. I list them here for your convenience … |
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Re: Tao - some background on Dr Dyer's bookdebyemm said Aug 27, 2007, 1:06 PM: |
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I posted the first verse today from Dr Wayne Dyer's new book “Change Your Thoughts - Change Your Life”, definitely a play on the old SOM phrase - “change your thinking, change your life” - whether consciously or not. I thought it might be appropriate here to add some background on Dr Dyer's writing of this book from his preface. It has changed how I would like to pursue studying the verses. Of birds I know that they have wings to fly with, of fish that they have fins to swim with, of wild beasts that they have feet to run with. For feet there are traps, for fins nets, for wings arrows. But who knows how dragons surmount wind and cloud into heaven? This day I have seen [Lao-tzu] and he is a dragon. from The Way of Life According to Lao Tzu (translated by Witter Bynner) |
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Re: Ken Cohen on Taoismdebyemm said Aug 30, 2007, 5:58 PM: |
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Denise said in comments for the Aug 30th Daily Guide - “I just love how LOA, SOM and the Tao just blend so beautifully together! Delicious!” |
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Re: Tao - The Butterfly of Chuang-tzudebyemm said Feb 23, 11:08 AM: |
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Lars, shared with me this website and so, I share with you this story from Taoism.net. Always have I loved butterfly stor |
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Re: Tao - The Butterfly of Chuang-tzuFastDart said Feb 23, 1:11 PM: |
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Potential and Imagination. |
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Re: Tao - The Way of Lao-tzuMeenakshi said Feb 24, 8:46 AM: |
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“One thing that sages have observed about the world is that many people talk too much but convey little that is meaningful. The Tao seems to be the opposite in that it says nothing and yet expresses everything” |
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Re: Tao - The Ma-Wang-Tui Manuscriptsdebyemm said Oct 19, 1:48 PM: |
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I found a new version of the Tao Te Ching at my mother's cabin last night, as we were cleaning out my in-laws personal belongings from their bedroom. I remember loaning my MIL The Tao of Pooh and The Te of Piglet, after I had read that book by Benjamin Hoff, which was my own first exposure to the Tao Te Ching. I believe it likely that she purchased this version after reading that. |
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