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The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel Ruizdebyemm said Nov 23, 2008, 12:05 PM: |
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FastDart / Lars reminded of this book, The Four Agreements by Don Miguel Ruiz, which is one of my all time favorites, and yet I've never commented on it in this pod (though I did in Jill's Sacred Walk pod). Anyway, I told Lars I was going to write about this and then, discovered that I had only the audio book version. So, I ordered the hard cover book and was lucky enough to get a “double” edition that includes the “Companion Book”. So, we should have a bit of material to explore for a long time here. Today, I just make a placeholder to get started. |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel Ruizdebyemm said Nov 23, 2008, 12:12 PM: |
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We will go into studying these one by one, but here they are, in brief. |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel RuizFlowerchild said Nov 23, 2008, 4:12 PM: |
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Ahhhh yes, a clasic indeed. Some things so simple yet so very powerful! Thanks for the reminder! I loaned this book out to someone and never got it back! LOL I look forward to reading up on the reminders! Thanks! |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel RuizMeenakshi said Nov 23, 2008, 4:37 PM: |
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Worth remembering again and again! And specially bringing to mind when we are about to put pen to paper, word out of mouth or finger on Send Post. |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel RuizLelazjia said Nov 27, 2008, 6:27 AM: |
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I LOVE this book– I have given it to everyone in my life at one time or another. Funny that I'm just reading this thread now–group consciousness in action once more–I used the first agreement–Be Impeccable With Your Word– in my newsletter (and blog) yesterday. |
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The First Agreement of the 4 Agreementsdebyemm said Nov 28, 2008, 12:08 PM: |
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Re: The First Agreement of the 4 Agreementsdebyemm said Nov 28, 2008, 1:19 PM: |
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Comments from the Companion Book |
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Re: The First Agreement - Impeccabilitydebyemm said Dec 14, 2008, 10:14 AM: |
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Re: The First Agreement - Impeccabilitypersephonehalliwell said Jan 2, 7:30 AM: |
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My biggest obstacle is people not saying what they mean and not meaning what they say. People are afraid – to be laughed at, judged, banished, whatever. |
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Re: The First Agreement - ImpeccabilityMeenakshi said Jan 4, 5:23 AM: |
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Perhaps this might help, perspephonehalliwell: |
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Re: The First Agreement - ImpeccabilityFastDart said Jan 4, 3:03 PM: |
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Most excellent Meenakshi, |
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Re: The First Agreement - Impeccabilitypersephonehalliwell said May 5, 12:54 PM: |
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As a listener, isn't there a danger in “assuming” what is being said and not being said? Yes, I can 'sense' when a friend doesn't want to talk about something or stays silent and doesn't answer a direct question I pose. Assuming the silence is an answer doesn't work all the time. I truly want to know and try to pull more from that friend, which can lead to them getting frustrated or clarifying their position more. I can only fill in so many blanks before it starts feeling like a one-sided conversation because I'm filling it all in for them and could be painting a completely different picture from what they really think or believe. how is that helpful to a relationship? |
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Re: The First Agreement - ImpeccabilityMeenakshi said May 6, 8:15 AM: |
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“As a listener, isn't there a danger in “assuming” what is being said and not being said? ” |
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Re: The First Agreement - ImpeccabilityNicole said May 6, 10:58 AM: |
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Today, I'm pondering the clarity of written communication. Even if I think I'm being clear, if someone is not following what I'm saying, to that person, I am not clear and my word can baffle or hurt instead of heal. Written communication has all kinds of pitfalls that spoken words don't have (like no body language cues etc) with the mixed blessing of a greater permanence. |
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Re: The First Agreement - Impeccabilitydebyemm said May 6, 10:59 AM: |
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Meenakshi, |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel RuizMeenakshi said Jan 4, 3:45 PM: |
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You've quoted my favorite verse of Tao, Lars. AND given a great link. Though it's meant to be for therapists; I wonder if we can each adopt a therapists' ear for listening and tongue for speaking? |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel Ruizdebyemm said Jan 12, 9:37 PM: |
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Meenakshi and Lars, excellent conversation on conversations and great points, concepts, etc. All of it. |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel RuizAlluvja said Jan 15, 2:57 PM: |
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From the newsletter of Don Miguel Ruiz for anyone interested and living in the vicinity: |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel Ruizdebyemm said Feb 26, 9:43 AM: |
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I really want to get back into this thread. Lots of conversations going on within me, and with others, about Unconditional Love. There are multiple threads winding around and through me at this time, blending the Rev Michael Bernard Beckwith with Don Miguel Ruiz. It is like New Year's for me and I am doing the work of visioning what my life is to be like going forward. “And I loved myself completely and unconditionally” This jumped out at me from this video… oh, it's such rich, gorgeous music too, to go along with the beauty of that fable which Don Ruiz tells. Deb |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel RuizFastDart said May 4, 7:25 PM: |
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Interesting how this keeps rising to the surface. Something tells me to post it here. Perhaps It should go someplace else but I'll go with my institution anyway. It's a long interview with Don Miguel Ruiz Jr. |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel Ruizstarlight said May 4, 7:35 PM: |
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I too enjoyed this book…thnx for posting this thread Deb, and Lars for the link to TT…always, star… |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel Ruizdebyemm said May 5, 11:43 AM: |
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Continuing comments from the Companion Book from where we left off here - |
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Re: The 4 Agreements - The Mitote Ceremonydebyemm said May 5, 11:49 AM: |
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I found this on-line by searching on the word ”mitote”. The site is Toltec Spirit: Wisdom of the Four Agreements. The Intent of the Mitote There are multiple intents woven together in this ritual designed to push and pull an individual along their transformation. The first intent of the mitote ceremony is to become lucid in the dream state. Each time we go to sleep, the mind passes from the waking dream to the sleeping dream. Each time that the mind passes through this dimension of dreaming, we have an opportunity to become aware that the mind is dreaming. This is often referred to as lucid dreaming. When we become aware that the mind is dreaming, we can take control of the dream. We can start to change and influence the dream. In this way the dreamer can practice changing the dream, instead of the dreamer reacting to the dream. Mastery of this aspect of dreaming has many benefits. It especially has benefits in the waking world of our daily life. One of the easiest ways to become aware that we are dreaming is in the moment that the body falls asleep and the mind continues to dream. We can become aware in other ways, but this is one of the easiest. During the mitote, there are multiple opportunities to take advantage of this window as we wake periodically during the night and then lay down to sleep again. The mastery of this requires a high degree of awareness. The second intent is the breaking of patterns and routines. Most of our actions, thoughts, and emotional responses are patterned routines. These patterns are programs that keep us repeating the same dream. We could say that our actions in this state are unconscious. We do not exercise our freewill in choosing our actions in cases where we are in a patterned reaction. This is the same behavior we often experience in a dream where things are just happening and we are just reacting. We find ourselves just doing things in the dream in reaction, and not consciously choosing an action. We could say that in this experience we are not exercising our freewill. In that place we do not even see a choice. To make a choice, one must first see a choice. This is similar in the waking dream when we are just reacting or behaving in a patterned routine. For example, did we choose the path that we drove to work. Or, did we just take the same route that we usually take. Our personal power is invested in the these patterned routines. In habits, we lose our opportunity for choice. By breaking the routine we can recover the personal power that we have invested in it. When we have recovered the personal power, we do not have to react. The routine no longer dictates our behavior, and instead we can choose. One of the fastest ways to recover this personal power is to break up the patterns that routinely run our life. One of the biggest of these is the habit of sleep. We have a lot of agreements about sleep. We believe them but they are not necessarily true. We can change them. When we change them, we can recover the investment of our personal power in that belief. In the mitote, we consciously intend to break up the sleep pattern and recover the power we have put in agreements about sleep. When you practice this aspect in the mitote you can become much more aware of other places where our personal power is invested in routines that don’t serve ourselves or others. Once you realize that you can break up the patterns around sleep, it gives us more confidence and personal power to break other patterns in our life that we want to change. The third intent is the energetic work of an experienced guide in the dream state. We are a multidimensional being. We perceive on many dimensions. However, from the time we were very young the world trained our attention to focus on a limited number of these dimensions. In the dream state our awareness is still working to evolve whether we are conscious of our dreams or not. During a mitote an experienced guide can work with individuals in the dream state towards this transformation. This evolution happens in realms that we are often not consciously aware of. The general format of the mitote ceremony: The mitote is done with a group and should be lead by an experienced guide. Each one will take on its individual characteristics but follows a similar outline. If possible, and convenient, the group gathers for a ceremony at sunset to connect themselves with the light of the sun. Afterwards, the group will gather to perform the dreaming ceremony. The group will generally break up into smaller groups which will be assigned a sequential order. The first group will hold the energy for the others through meditation and/or chanting, generally in the center of the room. The rest of the groups will lay down to dream and sleep. At intervals through out the night, the smaller group will wake the next group. Each group will take a turn meditating and consciously holding the larger group intent. This continues until sunrise. There are not guaranteed results from a mitote ceremony. Each persons experience will be different according to his or her point of view. Some people have had extraordinary mitote experiences and remember many dreams, only to remember nothing in their next mitote. One of the lessons I have learned in the mitote ritual is to not have expectations. We set our intent, but don’t expect that things will turn out as we have intended. We must leave room for Spirit to intervene and co-create with us in Its divine way. (deb's note - I have no idea what Don Miguel Ruiz would say about it. I just thought it would fit in here, since we were talking about the mitote.) |
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Re: The 4 Agreements - What Was That Dark Shape ?debyemm said May 5, 12:36 PM: |
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OK, allowing myself not to believe or disbelieve, after posting these additions to the thread - this happened (it just so happens, I had seen the word “apparition” this morning in the Science of Mind Text glossary). I am going to say this only, I don't know what I saw - |
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Re: The 4 Agreements - What Was That Dark Shape ?persephonehalliwell said May 5, 12:50 PM: |
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There is the power of suggestion, which makes sense that you heard or read something earlier in the day regarding 'apparition' so it was already in your mind and you were ready to see what you saw. The mind is a powerful thing that scientists have yet to truly understand. We only use ten percent of it. Imagine that! |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel RuizFlowerchild said May 5, 3:49 PM: |
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I also believe that the more we allow and open our minds, the more our minds eye become unclouded and can see clearer. |
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Re: The 4 Agreements by Don Miguel Ruizdebyemm said May 5, 4:17 PM: |
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Denise, |
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