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  HummingBird : Joy

Communications

HummingBird said Jul 1, 1:49 AM:

 

When we bring baggage into our relationships communication can help lighten the load. Communicating can be a means of shedding light where there would otherwise be darkness.

  Suni : Guardian, Warrior, Survivor

Re: Communications

Suni said Jul 7, 4:36 AM:

 

oh i couldn't agree with you more. i have baggage, and my knight helped to get rid of some of the junk, such as separation anxiety and worry, compulsions and self harming obessions.. he knew nothing of the compulsions and obessions, but he most certainly helped me rid them. even helped me to rid superstitions i have carried since “the bad thing” happened to me on September 3rd, 2005 (even just saying that date is a superstitious 'no no' for me).

though he and i are no longer together, we are still good friends, and he still helps me out, whether he knows he is or not.

love heals all wounds..

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Communications

Meenakshi said Jul 8, 7:04 AM:

 

Perhaps we are drawn to relationships that we know will help to lighten that baggage? If we're lucky, we find them. When we're wise, we are able to let go or change the relationship when the baggage is gone.

Very wise beginning, Anna  - “we all bring baggage…” 

Even those who are not aware that they have any? I've seen many sleepers in healing sessions. They feel blessed and happy but their physical and emotional bodies bear the brunt of the lack of awareness. And of course, their relationships. 

  Nicole : wakingdreamer

Re: Communications

Nicole said Jul 8, 7:11 AM:

 

Meenakshi, I think we are definitely drawn into relationships because of our baggage. Not necessarily to lighten it though sometimes unconscious involvement generates more.

Love,

Nicole

  Suni : Guardian, Warrior, Survivor

Re: Communications

Suni said Jul 8, 4:09 PM:

 

also true nicole! you and meerkat are both right.

  Suni : Guardian, Warrior, Survivor

Re: Communications

Suni said Jul 8, 4:08 PM:

 

true. i know that i can feel other people's energies, so i tend to find good people to befriend..and they help me with my baggage, whether they know it or not. love is a whole different ballgame..i cannot find a man to hold on to! i guess they cannot deal with my baggage..

those who are not aware they have baggage? how strange..you would think people would be aware of their baggage. i know i am. it's sitting in the corner waiting to be thrown out :P

  HummingBird : Joy

Re: Communications

HummingBird said Jul 9, 7:00 AM:

 

Reading all your posts… raising good questions. These are the questions I see popping up and would be curious to see how others would respond to them -

Am I drawn to others because of my baggage
Am I drawn to others because of their baggage
Am I a rescuer
Am I wishing to be rescued

  Nicole : wakingdreamer

Re: Communications

Nicole said Jul 9, 8:35 AM:

 

Good questions. I am definitely a rescuer, but sometimes i get tired and just wish I were rescued. I'm looking for a better balance in my life.  Quite a challenge!

Love,

Nicole

  HummingBird : Joy

Re: Communications

HummingBird said Jul 9, 9:11 AM:

 

Nicole, I'm wondering if in a sense the rescuer begets the 'damsel in distress' - a sort of vicious circle.
My sense of 'the rescuer' we forget the power of each person actually lies within themselves. And when we wish to be rescued - we've also forgotten this and may be too ready to 'give away our power'.
As you say, the secret lies in a balance - which I guess means neither 'rescuer' nor 'need to be rescued' - but something more self reliant and more gentle and considerate on yourself when giving and perhaps allowing self to accept the gifts of love.


love

  Suni : Guardian, Warrior, Survivor

Re: Communications

Suni said Jul 9, 1:01 PM:

 

hm…i am the rescuer and unknowingly the one wishing to be rescued..i help others because i like to help them, and it helps me too because it makes me feel better to be helping out another..

so i am both!

  HummingBird : Joy

Re: Communications

HummingBird said Jul 9, 1:34 PM:

 

Suni, the two often work together and the victim - they form a trio

  Suni : Guardian, Warrior, Survivor

Re: Communications

Suni said Jul 9, 1:36 PM:

 

it's in my nature to be the rescuer.. is this a bad thing?

  Nicole : wakingdreamer

Re: Communications

Nicole said Jul 9, 6:28 PM:

 

my understanding of every personality/tendency we have is this: it is both a strength and a weakness. It's not so much that we have strengths and weaknesses in two different categories, it's that our strengths are our weaknesses, our weaknesses are our strengths. depends on how you look at it.

so it is with being a rescuer. 

  Suni : Guardian, Warrior, Survivor

Re: Communications

Suni said Jul 9, 6:36 PM:

 

so.. being the rescuer is both strength and weakness.. and how i utilize this depends upon me?

  Nicole : wakingdreamer

Re: Communications

Nicole said Jul 9, 7:18 PM:

 

yes, that's how i see it anyway!

what do you others think?

  HummingBird : Joy

Re: Communications

HummingBird said Jul 10, 12:49 AM:

 

My sense is we are all innately compassionate beings - with varying degrees of obscurations. The way I see it - is we sometimes confuse our need to rescue with our instinct to be compassionate. In order to rescue someone - there is a sense of a stronger and a weaker being - when in fact all beings are equal. I feel the most compassionate thing we can do for anyone is guide them to find their own inner strength.

When we become dependent on someone else's strength or visa versa - at some point there will be resentment.

  Nicole : wakingdreamer

Re: Communications

Nicole said Jul 10, 7:29 AM:

 

That's very helpful, Anna, thank you!

Love,

Nicole

  Doug : Back Yard Artist

Re: Communications

Doug said Jul 22, 1:29 AM:

 

Wonderful thread everyone!
I had a friend once who said that you should be able to carry everything you have in a backpack and I was thinking, well this is a trip so would we like travel here without a bag of stuff?
Well at some point we thought we needed that stuff and the appropriate sized bag to carry it all in? Maybe it was Karmic stuff we picked up along the way or maybe we just got to pick and choose the stuff while we were picking our parents out from the line up?
Oh yeah and they gave us stuff too to carry along and we picked them because of that stuff.
So I'm carrying this stuff down the street and one I bump into you and I say “Hey nice backpack!” and you say “Not a bad steamer trunk dude!” And I say ” so what you got in there?” Well I might take you to a movie and dinner first but anyway, so you show me your stuff and of course the first things out will be the things you think I'll like cuz we really have x-ray vision and we could already make out the forms in each others bags. A little dim but we get it anyway. We can see the stuff on top and know that stuff gets used a lot and everything is cool until you take out the stained tee-shirt that reminds me of something I forgot that I have way down in the bottom of mine, down there with the used crewing gun wadded up in the tampon wrapper.
So wow! How do we get past that? Run?
Time?
But how's this for a clincher?
We made no mistakes when we packed our bags and everything in there is there for a reason, yes even the ripped t-shirt. You'll need that one day to dress a strangers wounds.
Don't loose the baggage please, just know what you have in there so you can make use of it when the time comes. When you know what you have, suddenly everyone is carrying around jewelry boxes.
No wonder I love you so much, you have the stuff!

  HummingBird : Joy

Re: Communications

HummingBird said Jul 22, 4:50 AM:

 

A modern day parable, Doug! Any more up your baggage, I mean your sleeve?

love