Gaia: Altered States-Realities - Are you a Channel or Oracle?

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://karivalli.gaia.com — Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:21:58 GMT

OMG who is that text factory?

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://karivalli.gaia.com — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:14:12 GMT

And should one be somewhere else now? Where would you like to be? Reading about what ajar says about channeling emptiness?

Emptiness has layers. Layers mean that somethings appear as separate, yet immediate, surrounding and secondary, attached to the inner. I meant that it has to be seen as having layers, even if it didn't really have them, because emptiness is a difficult concept to grasp. Is it just emptiness like in a cup? or emptiness like in a space or in a vacuum? or emptiness without space or vacuum? Those could be its layers. Using emptiness means awareness and utilising of how it affects its layers - like how a vacuum inside a (metal) container, which is the utility, affects the container.

Some have strong belief fields that affect the nature of emptiness. I claimed that what is around as is a defintion of what we think. I also claimed that what we think affects those around us, because we're telepathic. We're telepathic, but cannot control and specialise in listening high to the field of interaction around us. Or perhaps some can but don't tell about it. Telepathy is affected by will and belief systems. Belief systems work as value drivers to what we think. The mind processes thoughts and picks up the ones, values up those thougts one agrees with.

Say, I believe in personal transportation - so I don't think about commuting because the belief that cars are better has proven good... so I don't even think about commuting when I'm going to move to a place in the morning. I wouldn't even get a choise to affect my way of transportation that morning because there's no time to mine deep thoughts on that specific part of morning. Beliefs are strong and they affect lives. Change someone's belief and his reality will shift - because belief is there when one thinks about how things really are. So is there even a reality behind our beliefs? I know that I write English! I believe the floor is made flat because the ground is flat. Ground has to be flat. In fact when I go outside I see that ground IS almost as flat as the floor. (btw in real life I do commute a lot :p)

I believe that if you can affect random generators with consciousness, consciousness can also affect the nature or reality of such arbitrary thing as emptiness. If you have a consciousness intact with a belief field it runs energy into the nature of things without you ever knowing it... using the post momentum of your conscious experiences. That means that past stuff do still matter and surface. Let's talk about saving... or managing ego. I'm not sure! It links to this because of the word momentum - when ever I put money on my bank account... the banking system makes that amount of money grow interest because of the different nature of having it on that bank account than having it as cash. So I keep pushing the buttons.
Bank account is good. But the money put there also feeds the banking system and economy as it goes to the flow of it without me keeping it in my pocket any more. And I will soon see that there will be perhaps some equisite things nearby... When I do this with consciousness, pushing the buttons is same as meditation and awareness of the ego. The ego becomes soon an "eco" and wonderful things will come into my life and to those around me.

a person with the configured belief system is the one that believes in emptiness of things and transcends those with energy fields to never-emptiness.
If ! is the current for consciousness, 100 people with 10! have 1000!. If my profound meditation doubles my ! every year it will take 7 years before being as conscious as those 100 people together, if there's no cap limit to ! per person. Speculation for fun: Hmm, it could be like going to a meditation center daily for 7 years, depending on personal effort, level of starting ! and the teaching they give in the center it wouldn't be likely to transcend that much. Going to meditation center daily, retreats in a regular fashion and having a good teacher around every day for 7 years+doing some self observations, it's very likely to be able to easily "buy" the attention of those 100 opposing people that surround you. Even temporarily.
:-)

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://ADLIAC.gaia.com — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:51:19 GMT

Now that you mention it, sandy, I have heard that expression but have no idea what it means. Should probably wikipedia it !!!

I think of the Emptiness aka Field of Infinite Possibilities as all possible possibilities. Pure POTENTIALs, not yet actual. And we "know" it's there because we feel that somethings have to come from somewhere, AND because there is some sense of awe and wonder within us that refers to "something" other than All That Is. So we INFER the Emptiness. That's my impression. And some people experience it, in consciousness, but it's pretty indescribable in language, of course !!!

Have you seen or experienced the "black hole of Calcutta?" What is it?

Namaste, OM Bastet

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://environsand.gaia.com — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 08:23:34 GMT

"The Void or Emptiness is not however, actually empty in our sense of the term. It is also infinitely full. Many people report that. But it is infinitely full of things that don't exist !!!"

It's more like the "black hole of Calcutta" if you have heard that saying
Vector?
Nothing -a black abyss so deep when you go there you don't
know if you will actually come back -actually quite scary to
fall into it!

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://ADLIAC.gaia.com — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 02:28:17 GMT

If that was a compliment to me, Ajar, I accept. If not, glad you were so pleased at something !!!

And since I am interested in this subject, I would love to hear more about what you meant you when you said

Even emptiness has layers. It wouldn't be that simple if there weren't those unaware of the emptiness of everything and so on. Some have strong belief fields that affect the nature of emptiness... so that to get to use emptiness, get used by emptiness you first need to get a configuration of sorts that transcends the energy fields of those with strong belief in never-emptiness.

what you meant, and how you came to think this.

Namaste, OM Bastet

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://karivalli.gaia.com — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:52:56 GMT

Wow. Totally stunning!

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://ADLIAC.gaia.com — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:43:46 GMT

So, I would love to hear, Silent Temple, what your experience is that you call "suppose I channel emptiness." That would be very interesting and expanding to hear about, if you are willing to share !!

Namaste, OM Bastet

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://ADLIAC.gaia.com — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:35:07 GMT

Interesting how an old thread can get revived !!!

I gotta weigh in here as we are on one of my favorite subjects.

There are so many names for the Emptiness, and each has a different idea or definition: Void, Plenum, Implicate Order, and others, and my favorite is from Chopra, The Field of Infinite Possibilities.

Since these are UN manifest, they cannot be apprehended or channeled, strictly speaking, IMO. Many people do relate to and apprehend and even channel what they called The Stillness, though, and I am not sure what that is. Anyway, my information gleaned from ventures into consciousness of the vastest sort is that the Void-etc. is an inference, not a perception or even apprehension. We infer it MUST be there, even though it is not "there" or "be" or "existing" because it is the non-existent !!!!

The Void or Emptiness is not however, actually empty in our sense of the term. It is also infinitely full. Many people report that. But it is infinitely full of things that don't exist !!!

And those paradoxes for our minds are because what we are trying to use language about is beyond the scope of language. Language can describe only a small fraction of what our consciousness can experience. The rest is "the ineffable."

So, ultimately, all our words about it can be considered as falsehoods.

Thass my two cents on the most recent ideas here. Delightful perspectives to hear and share, each of us refining our own understandings inthe process, and expanding our own consciousness inthe process, which goes a long way toward helping to change the world.

Namaste, OM Bastet

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://environsand.gaia.com — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 12:35:14 GMT

But emptyness isn't channeling anything
at all -is it ?

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://karivalli.gaia.com — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 15:28:13 GMT

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://environsand.gaia.com — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 10:58:58 GMT

emptiness -or the void?

Re: I am the Mayan Manik & hidden helped by the White Wizard

http://karivalli.gaia.com — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:41:08 GMT

great to hear about that :-)

Re: I am the Mayan Manik & hidden helped by the White Wizard

http://environsand.gaia.com — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:27:06 GMT

there is activity here Ajar

Re: I am the Mayan Manik & hidden helped by the White Wizard

http://karivalli.gaia.com — Thu, 03 Apr 2008 05:33:33 GMT

A small correction: I have the Manik Mayan galactic signiture on me... just to see wheter there's any activity here

I am the Mayan Manik & hidden helped by the White Wizard

http://karivalli.gaia.com — Wed, 02 Apr 2008 19:29:04 GMT

This means I can read Mayan calendar intuitively better than most. I also have a collection or few spiritual tools with me, that form a content in my life or the mission in my life.

One of them seems to be an ability to find some people.

Can I predict future? Or at least, see potentials in future events occuring?

By mayan astrology I am an oracle.
i could channel my higher self. :p

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://SilentTemple.gaia.com — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:30:15 GMT

I suppose I channel emptiness ...

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://ADLIAC.gaia.com — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:08:13 GMT

Thanks for talking, Sandy. It's good for us all to expand to understand others' viewpoints.

To my way of thinking, nothing "gets in the way of Unity" because Unity is the case all the time and we can be AWARE of it, or not, but that doesn't change the reality of it. Whether we think or experience that we are in Unity or not, we actually are. It's there when we have eyes to see, and ears to hear. Whatever gets in the way of our hearing, or seeing, or awareness, or remembering, of Unity, is also a part of Unity, because there is nothing but Unity. Whatever is, is Unity. So, from this perspective, Dark is Light, or Dark serves Light, serves the awakening process.

Hard to wrap the mind around, at least for me, but that seems to be what all the spiritual teachers are teaching.

But maybe you meant something different by "gets in the way of Unity."

And I didn't mean "choice" of the human self. The choice is, I believe, on another higher level of Self. If you meant not a choice of the human self, then I would be agreeing with you. And, I am curious: if not a choice, then what? What's the alternative you see?

Blessings, OM Bastet

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://environsand.gaia.com — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 06:54:27 GMT

Hi back 1Vector3 -

I don't think it IS a matter of choice for some .
And to get to the Light -you sometimes have to
go through the Dark.
Some find it enticing and stay there -
some stay because they cannot face up
to their Demon's of the past.
It's the old question of good versus bad-
still blocking the way of Unity -
in my opinion!

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://url.gaia.com — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 23:48:54 GMT

...thanx Rev...wales and dolphins are sentient ...I see them as visiters here like myself...we are here tutoring humanity...Source has big things planned for the human race...

Re: ...we are All channels...

http://ADLIAC.gaia.com — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:25:43 GMT

Will, were you speaking casually or precisely? THE sentient species on this planet?? THE position???? Wooo!! I see humans not as THE only, and maybe not even as THE MOST.

(R. Gordon Dickson scifi story wish I recalled the name: The Visitor (?) Alien species rep comes to Earth to do interviews with sentient species. Contacts dolphin-researcher human, who starts to eagerly prepare for interview. Discovers the alien is here to interview the dolphins. A most consciousness-raising story.)

And of course there appear to me to be degrees of sentience in the ordinary representatives of many of the life-forms here. Do you have a different perspective, no degrees of sentience? Then we need to define it.

Hi to you in Land of Oz, Sandy!!!! From my perspective, "Channeling" is just another way pointing to, describing, naming the Fact that There is ONLY ONE MIND, (Consciousness) and We Are It (and so is everything else.)

From my perspective, what might be called the "underworld" is simply one part of that Mind. It's a choice, whether your part or my part wants to to "go there" or "channel from there" or not. Simply a choice. (That would unpack to a several-page discourse, but for now.....)

Not intending agree/disagree or argument here. Intending each of us helping each other expand consciousness, be it ever so slightly.

Blessings, OM Bastet