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Death is caused by self destructive behaviorMi Ka El said Mar 22, 2006, 8:58 AM: |
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Re: Death is caused by self destructive behaviorMi Ka El said Mar 22, 2006, 9:04 AM: |
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Re: Death is caused by self destructive behaviorMelis [no longer around] said Mar 22, 2006, 4:40 PM: |
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I love this topic Mi Ka El. I think with the exception of fire arms and microbial agents I’ve probably dabbled in just about everything on the “Causes of Death” list…eek! About seven years ago I had a major epiphany. I became aware that all of these bad habits of mine were really just self-loathing acts. Somehow - without effort I went T-total overnight and overhauled my life. For several years I sought to explore why I was so hell bent on hurting myself (when all along I thought I was having fun). This self-examination led to an opening up to an embracing of spirit (mine/yours) that changed me deeply as well as the way I now relate to the world at large. I’m no longer a complete T-totaler although I’m close - but then I’ve rid myself of destructive cravings (well, except for dark chocolate which - in the amounts I’ve been known to consume could do some damage… lol) Ultimately - I don’t personally accept the concepts of addiction as they are traditionally presented (powerless 12 step stuff). I believe that if we can change the fundamental underlying belief of a self-destructive act and replace the behavior with something better the compulsion(s) to abuse (anything) will generally disapear. I welcome your thoughts… Thanks for this thought provoking Pod! Peace Melis |
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Re: Death is caused by self destructive behaviorMi Ka El said Mar 23, 2006, 4:35 PM: |
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You appear to me as a great exception in the current presentation of humanity. I suppose you must have had some very supportive influences to be able to self recognize your self- destructive habits and go straight to the solution of recovering the spirit. (One of these days I'll ask for your permission to quote you as an outstaning genius in intuitive self knowledge.) |
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Re: Death is caused by self destructive behaviorkathy said Mar 24, 2006, 2:20 PM: |
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Awesome!! I have been coming to the same conclusions in the last few weeks. I've been trying to stop smoking for some time and drinking too. In the last few weeks it finally really sunk in what it was really about. Self loathing BS. I can't possibly hate myself that much….so I stopped. I quit smoking, drugs are out (unless I ever make it to Brazil) and I slowed waaay down on the drinking. That one will be a little tougher for me. I've grown too dependent on it in social situations. Although I am aware of it and that's pretty good for right now. |
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Re: Death is caused by self destructive behaviorMelis [no longer around] said Mar 25, 2006, 9:14 PM: |
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Mikael…Echo… Thanks for your words… it’s hard for me to look back and think that I might have done anything so unusual because it seemed such natural response to what was going on in my life at the time…I simply made a choice based on the realization (the epiphany) that I wanted to live. And I mean LIVE. Which I had not been very good at doing at all. Echo - I’m really glad to hear that you’re making such an effort for yourself. I have a friend who recently quit smoking and has been climbing the walls. I keep reminding her that it’s the single most loving act that she can do for herself and that she wouldn’t be making this choice unless some part of her was desperately asking for her own love. I ask you to listen for that voice because it too is asking for your own love. We contend with so many unconscious battles within ourselves that it’s sometimes hard to find a self to love at all! My own experience tells me that the inner wars calm down when we remove those layers of self-inflicetd hatred from our bodies/minds. When we’ve begun to lift the mucky veil we can start to clear a path towards peace. But that’s the hard part because exposure/vulnerability can be painful and is often the reason we find it so unbearable to let go of our addictions to begin with. The truth hurts but it also heals. And yes Mikael, to go beyond the self and take care of our environment as wholistically as possible is to love ourselves inside out. If we can’t embrace our whole selves how can we even begin to nurture the planet? And with that I think I need some chocolate… Keep it shining! Melis |
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Re: Death is caused by self destructive behaviorMi Ka El said Mar 28, 2006, 12:50 PM: |
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Hey friends, |
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Re: Death is caused by self destructive behaviorDiana said Mar 28, 2006, 1:05 PM: |
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OK, MiKaEl, Of course we will, that’s why we are here for! Just do what you have to do, correct whatever you want and give us green light to start all over! Diana :-) |
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Re: Death is caused by self destructive behaviorMelis [no longer around] said Apr 1, 2006, 9:30 PM: |
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ditto…looking forward to more… |
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Re: Death is caused by self destructive behaviorMi Ka El said Apr 4, 2006, 12:08 PM: |
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Well, I wrote a layout suggestion for the site yesterday and asked you members to discuss it and to sugest your own topics, but when I posted the entry I only got saa error message and everything was lost. |
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