Zero plus

Where from time started? The general belief is that it started from the moment of big bang some 16 billion years ago.

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Time and space start with number.

Without number there is no time no space.

From there you will at some point find that all is number.

By analogy the quality of number is more important that the quanitity.

The quality of the number one is Magnetic
It's essence is purpose.
It's action is to attract.
It's power is to unify.

Polarity exists by the power of Unity.

The essence of the number two is Challenge
It's action is to Polarize
It's action is to Stabilize

Therefore I'd like to regard my world not one of duality but of polarity.
Duality has in it the quality of division.
Polarity has in it the quality of union.

There is much more to say on number.
The Maya where (are!) masters in mathematics and astronomy.
Step by step I'd like to share some of their insights with you.
For they have everything to do with time.

If we were to find a consensus that the universe is about 13,7 billion years old. See how that is fractally in correspondence with what can be discovered here:
These things like synchronicity (the very essence of evolution) and the Law of Time seem incomprehensible and impossible in a 12:60 mind set (that is a mind set with the perception of time being a function of space. Time as duration). Yet they are easily realizable within the radial time of the 4th dimension, based on the fractal of {4:7::7:13}

The 13-moon calendar is based the fractal {4:7::7:13}
Don't let that scare you, I means nothing more than this:
With three units on both sides, 4 is the middle between 1 and 7
When you double it you get this:
With six units on both sides, 7 is the middle between 1 and 13.
In that way 4 is to 7 as 7 is to 13. Or {4:7::7:13}

That is true anywhere in the universe, also on the moon, on pluto, Andromeda, even on hksood898dwk (where ever that may be!)

If we make a triangle with on the corners the numbers 4, 7 and 13
and we place another triangle over it, we get a David-star.
We multiply 4x7 we get 28
Also 1+2+3+4+5+6+7=28
On the other side of the star shape is the number 13.
In one year we have 13 full moons of 28 days.
And 13x28 is 364. The number of days in a year is +1.
The +1 might at first seem confusing, but it is essential to have a +1 factor.
There you have the 'zero plus' of this thread.
All relative needs a +1 to be able to move. Panta Rhei, everyting flows. And this David-star represents the relative, biological cycle.
Another David-star, with the numbers 4, 5 and 13 is Absolute and is the telepathic cycle. The keen students have already multiplied 4 with 5, being 20. They have seen the 13 on the opposite side. 13X20=260. Halleluja it fits!

Ok, back to the first David-star.
7x13 is 91
There are 4 seasons of 91 days. Any questions?
Go figure out yourself what 4x13 adds up to…

What's more, to mathematically confirm all this:  1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13= 91

May I suggest you read some more here.

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Very interesting. Numbers, space and time all configured together. If we dwelve back a little into our own lives we may find so many numerical similarities.
Siva

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Time started when I learned to tell the time, or when I was born, When the first clock was made, When the first choice was taken, When matter first came into exhistance, At the Big Bang, Before the Big Bang, None of the above.
If a tree falls in the forest, but no-one is there to see it, would you like my audio recording of the event? My calendar tells me that time started just over 2006 years ago, my clock is unable to confirm with accuracy the length of any of the first 703000 days, yet I am still able to get up in the morning. Isn’t life truly wonderful?

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If we study Sri Aurobindo's writings, a few questions emerge regarding time.
In “Symbol Dawn”  in his book “Savitri”-a legend and symbol, he describes the moment in the following verse:

“It was the hour before the Gods awake,
Across the path of the divine Event
The huge foreboding mind of Night, alone
In her unlit temple of eternity,
Lay stretched immobile upon Silence' marge.
Almost one felt, opaque, impenetrable,
In the sombre symbol of her eyeless muse.
the abysm of the unbodied infinite;
A fathomless zero occupied the world.” 

The fathomless zero is inclusive of time, I presume, for if space is zero time cannot be far behind. In the same canto he continues in another stanza:

“A sacred yearning lingered in its trace,
The worship of a Presence and a Power
Too perfrect to  be held by death-bound hearts,
The prescience of a marvellous birth to come.
Only a little the god-light can stay:
Spiritual beauty illumining human sight
Lines with its passion and mystery Matter's mask
And squanders eternity on a beat of Time.
As when a soul draws near the sill of birth,
Adjoining  mortal time to Timelessness,…”

How can you squander eternity on a beat of Time unless it is very flexible to the extent that eternity levels to a beat? And also there is Timelessness adjacent to our mortal time. How this duality and why? Do we exist at the edge of timelessness meaning there is no time beyond the point of our death?

Now Sri Aurobind goes on to describe the reasons of immediate birth of Savitri, the alienated goddess, thrown to this world from the heavens to atone for her imagined fault:

“A narrow movement on Time's deep abysm,
Life's fragile littleness denied the power,
The proud and conscious wideness and the bliss
She had brought with her into the human form,
The calm delight that weds one soul to all,
The key to the flaming doors of ecstasy.”

Where is the deep abysm of Time located? Is our existence on the edge of that abysm?
And he describes Savitri's prospective torment on the day that Satyavan, her husband is destned to die in the following lines:

“Awake she endured the moments' serried march
And looked on this green smiling dangerous world,
And heard the ignorant cry of living things.
Amid the trivial sounds, the unchanging scene
Her soul arose confronting Time and Fate.
Immobile in herself, she gathered force.
This was the day when Satyavan must die.”

Is Time a foe that Savitri had to confront  along with Fate? Enduring the serried march of the moments was another torture for her. Was she able to confront Time and Fate from the front and stop both? If yes, Time is an entity that can even be stopped in the eyes of the great philosopher Sri Aurobindo.