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    <pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:24:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Nondual Therapy defined</title>
      <author>http://seagull.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 20:24:03 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;      This is lovely Bill.&amp;nbsp; I will &amp;#39;sit &amp;#39; with it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clare &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Re: Nondual Therapy defined</title>
      <author>http://billyledford.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
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      <pubDate>Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:39:34 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;      Here is the most recent version of my definition with a few slight changes:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;The goal of nondual therapy is to discover who we are without our stories and to expand our capacity to embody our True Nature - our Welcoming, Spacious Awareness - in every aspect of our lives.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Nondual therapy is rooted in the assumption that our perception of &amp;quot;problems&amp;quot; is itself the problem (which really &lt;strong&gt;isn&amp;#39;t&lt;/strong&gt; a problem).&amp;nbsp; The self-improvement project is a subtle form of self-directed aggression.&amp;nbsp; Who we are does not need improving.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;By de-constructing our &amp;quot;self and world construct system&amp;quot; (James Bugental&amp;#39;s term) we are able to uncover our underlying, unchanging equanimity, or Presence, and strengthen our capacity to embody Awareness in our day-to-day existence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;This therapeutic process occurs in a certain type of relationship - a &amp;quot;holy encounter&amp;quot; in which what is awake in&amp;nbsp;the therapist meets what is awake in the client -&amp;nbsp;thus healing the client&amp;#39;s (and therapist&amp;#39;s)&amp;nbsp;perception of self, other&amp;nbsp;and world.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Re: Nondual Therapy defined</title>
      <author>http://billyledford.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-166007</guid>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:44:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/non_dual_therapy/conversations/view/165755#166007</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      &lt;em&gt;&amp;quot;This therapeutic process occurs in a certain type of relationship - a &amp;quot;holy encounter&amp;quot; in which the awakening therapist meets what is awake in the client and thus heals the client&amp;#39;s perception of self and world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;Are you saying that the awakening therapist heals the client&amp;#39;s perception of self and world?&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Surely its the client&amp;#39;s awakening self&amp;nbsp; that meets&amp;nbsp; with what is awake in the therapist , if he/she is present&amp;nbsp; to the client in a nondual way, and thus in this place of unconditional acceptance of what is, healing occurs.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; This has been my experience.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you for your response, Clare.&amp;nbsp; This last statement was difficult for me.&amp;nbsp; It is this last statement that was my feeble attempt to include something of my understanding of Course-based psychotherapy.&amp;nbsp; Your question has caused me to re-visit it and revise it.&amp;nbsp; Here is the, perhaps new and improved version:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;This therapeutic process occurs in a certain type of relationship - a &amp;quot;holy encounter&amp;quot; in which what is awake in&amp;nbsp;the therapist meets what is awake in the client&amp;nbsp;- thus healing the client&amp;#39;s (and therapist&amp;#39;s)&amp;nbsp;perception of self, other&amp;nbsp;and world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;I often find that my client heals my faulty perception -- especially if I do The Work on my judgements of them.&amp;nbsp; That never ceases to amaze me.&amp;nbsp; The Course talks about our true function being one of forgiveness.&amp;nbsp; Forgiveness is realizing that what we thought happened didn&amp;#39;t (a quote of both Byron Katie and A Course in Miracles).&amp;nbsp; It is about a healing in our perception of self, other and the world.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thank you so much for your help in allowing me to refine my own thinking.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Billy &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Re: Nondual Therapy defined</title>
      <author>http://seagull.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Clare</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-165980</guid>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:15:49 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;      Hi Billy,&amp;nbsp; I appreciate very much your definitions of nondual therapy.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This therapeutic process occurs in a certain type of relationship - a &amp;ldquo;holy encounter&amp;rdquo; in which the awakening therapist meets what is awake in the client and thus heals the client&amp;#39;s perception of self and world.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I too read The Sacred Mirror&amp;nbsp; a number of years ago, and I was very affirmed by all the essays contained in it, especially those of John Welwood, whose books \i have also read.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Are you saying that the awakening therapist heals the client&amp;#39;s perception of self and world?&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;nbsp;Surely its the client&amp;#39;s awakening self&amp;nbsp; that meets&amp;nbsp; with what is awake in the therapist , if he/she is present&amp;nbsp; to the client in a nondual way, and thus in this place of unconditional acceptance of what is, healing occurs.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; This has been my experience.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;warmly&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Clare&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Nondual Therapy defined</title>
      <author>http://billyledford.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2007:Gaia-165755</guid>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 00:41:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/non_dual_therapy/conversations/view/165755</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      I have recently been trying to determine what&amp;nbsp;exactly is meant by the term &amp;quot;nondual&amp;quot; therapy.&amp;nbsp; I have read&amp;nbsp;a few&amp;nbsp;books on this topic and feel that this approach to therapy suits me and my style more than any other.&amp;nbsp; However, I have had a hard time describing it to others when they ask me what it is all about.&amp;nbsp; Part of the problem is that we are dealing with words and concepts and the nondual approach is non-conceptual.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;To help me with this I read through one of my favorite books on nondual therapy called &lt;u&gt;The Sacred Mirror: Nondual Wisdom and Psychotherapy&lt;/u&gt;.&amp;nbsp; I typed up many of my favorite quotes from this book and looked for themes and similar ideas.&amp;nbsp; I also drew from my experience with The Work of Byron Katie and more recently with Yoga Nidra as taught by Richard Miller.&amp;nbsp; I then took into consideration&amp;nbsp;much of what I have learned from &lt;u&gt;A Course in Miracles&lt;/u&gt; and the suppliment to the Course called &lt;u&gt;Psychotherapy: Purpose, Process and Practice&lt;/u&gt;.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Here is what I have come up with so far:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;u&gt;My&amp;nbsp;Definition of Nondual Therapy&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/u&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;The goal of nondual therapy is to discover who we are without our stories and to expand our capacity to embody our True Nature - our Welcoming, Spacious Awareness - in every aspect of our lives.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;Nondual therapy is rooted in the assumption that our perception of &amp;quot;problems&amp;quot; is itself the problem.&amp;nbsp; The self-improvement project is a subtle form of self-directed aggression.&amp;nbsp; Who we are does not need improving.&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;By de-constructing our &amp;quot;self and world construct system&amp;quot; (James Bugental&amp;#39;s term) we are able to discover our underlying, unchanging equanimity, or Presence, and strengthen our capacity to embody Awareness in our day-to-day existence.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;div align="center"&gt;&lt;em&gt;&lt;em&gt;This therapeutic process occurs in a certain type of relationship - a &amp;quot;holy encounter&amp;quot; in which what is awake in&amp;nbsp;the therapist meets what is awake in the client -&amp;nbsp;thus healing the client&amp;#39;s (and therapist&amp;#39;s)&amp;nbsp;perception of self, other&amp;nbsp;and world.&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/em&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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