Topic Suggestion: How does human form affect us?

Hello everyone,
I was reading a post by KES about Atlantis in  Myths and Parables:

“Could the answers lie within Plato's account in The Dialogues some 2,000 years ago?  perhaps the truth is in Plato when he wrote that the Atlanteans “despised everything but virtue, caring little for their present state of life, thinking lightly of the possession of gold and other property, which seemed only a burden to them.” He said they remained virtuous” as long as the divine nature lasted in them.”

The “divine nature” has been largely ignored by scholars through the ages. What was the Atlantean “present state of life,” as Plato described? He goes on to say that the Atlanteans “saw clearly that all these goods are increased by virtue and friendship with one another. Whereas by too great a regard and respect for them, the riches are lost, and friendship with them. When the divine portion began to fade away and became diluted too often and too much with the mortal admixture and the human nature got the upper hand, they then, being unable to bear their fortune, behaved unseemly…” ”

The part about “the mortal admixture” to me appears to me possibly refer to what happens to all of us souls who take human form. It's hard on us. I, personally find it difficult to connect with my soul. I, like most humans, struggle daily to overcome my human faults and the disconnect from my higher self.

Any thoughts? Any suggestions about how to overcome this spiritual disconnect?  Anyone else feel this way?

Namaste,
Kala

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Hi Kala,

One way to see your spirit is close your eyes, picture a cat, what color is it?  Point to it.  Now open your eyes.  Who was pointing to the cat?
Who mocked it up?  That is the difference between your body, mind and spirit… The I am is you… your spirit.  I have a couple of other ways you can see your spirit too, but do this one first.

Thanks  for bringing the Atlantis story  to the forum.  I read it twice at home and was so enthralled with the story I typed it here.  When I got to that part about mortal admixture I had to define the word and then saw how it tied in for me.  I know other answers will be from each of one's own experience. Being greedy, worshiping material goods too much over our spiritual paths is a stopper to some degree.  

I notice when I really clean my office and home I feel much more spiritual and cause over my “stuff”.  I like to keep things simple… it's not always easy but I work at it.  I discovered things start with the individual and that felt true for me as we handle our own area and branch out from there for other activities.  I have to run to my clients and will check back to give more examples.  I welcome others helping Kala with the questions here.

You asked:  any thoughts? Any suggestions about how to overcome this spiritual disconnect?  Anyone else feel this way?


Namasté
~KES

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I just wrote a reply and it disappeared, poof, and now I have to travel.  Will write soon about the practice of “witnessing”, one way to deal with embodiment!

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Hi Kathy,

Thanks so much for replying. I look forward to reading about the practice of “witnessing” when you are able to post it.

Namaste,
Kala

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Hi KES,

Thank you for posting the Atlantis story. It really got me thinking. I've been shy about posting since joining Gaia as you all seem to be very advanced in your spiritual practice and scholarship. I am very interested in the other ways you mentioned of seeing my spirit. Thank you for helping me to get up the nerve to write my post.

Namaste,
Kala

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Thank you, Lee, for your reply and suggestions. I understand about the Atlanteans and their greed and materialism. That's not my problem at all. The line about the “mortal admixture” just got me thinking about myself and roadblocks to spiritual connectedness and growth and what being in human form does to us. I wonder how people overcome this.

-Namaste-
Kala

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Oh dear, my thread has gone quiet before it got a chance to take off. Anyone here on Gaia have any more thoughts or suggestions, please?

-Namaste-
Kala

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hi kala, i'm sure there are many out there with good comments, so hopefully they will drop in to share as time goes by.

in the meantime i have a few thoughts…

it may be that thinking of the body and its imperfections as an obstacle could be counterproductive. i believe that everything, i mean everything, can be a way into a deeper spirituality - doing good deeds and making huge mistakes and hurting others; feeling great, feeling pain; and so on and so forth. 

spiritual connectedness is close to you, it's not some distant goal that you can only reach after becoming an ascetic and sitting on a mountain for many years - there are glimmers through the relationships with other people, through the thoughts, feelings and experiences you have every day.

love,

nicole

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Nicole said: “spiritual connectedness is close to you, it's not some distant goal that you can only reach after becoming an ascetic and sitting on a mountain for many years - there are glimmers through the relationships with other people, through the thoughts, feelings and experiences you have every day.”

Thank you for those words Nicole.

Namaste
Kala

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Hi Kala,
Nicole said Spiritual connectedness is close to you. These are priceless words, very loaded, and so very true. Thank you Nicole, you have summarized everything so easily and simply.

If you are asking for a “formula”, I would say there is NO FORMULA. The very fact that you are asking this question is in itself a step forward in the journey. This is a process, a lifelong (and beyond) process of evolving, and it can not be hurried. A seed is planted ( the seed is already planted in you otherwise you would not be asking this question). Now this has to be nurtured by watering it with FAITH. FAITH is the key, and by faith  I mean ”Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing”
You will find that there would be hurdles, times when your faith would be TESTED. You will also find that at times you will feel “detached/disoriented/disconnected”. It is Okay, it is normal process of evolution, don't feel disheartened. These phases will pass. Just HOLD STRONG onto your FAITH.

“sorrow looks back, worry looks around, and faith looks up”

And please remember the golden words “he that loveth not, knoweth not God; for God is love - 1 John 4:8”

Any will take you to your goal, provided you have unfaltering and implicit FAITH.

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This is perfect advice Lee, Nicole & Eli.

Kala, may this open more windows of light.
I like to be 3 feet behind my head.  That is
the other thing I forgot to mention.

namasté
k

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KES said: “I like to be 3 feet behind my head.  That is
the other thing I forgot to mention.”

Thank you KES for your suggestion. I'm not sure I understand what you mean though, could you please elaborate? I'm sorry, I'm terrible at visualization.

Namaste
Kala

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“I'm not sure I understand what you mean though, could you please elaborate? I'm sorry, I'm terrible at visualization.”


When you visualized a cat above, what was it's color (white, black, tabby), size (kitten, cat - male/female), texture (long hair/short), weight, mood, etc.)  

Describe your cat that you imagined with your mind.  So the “I am” you… is your spirit.  That is you, not your body… there are 3 parts to Man… body, mind and spirit.  

The “I am” is your spirit.  Sad upsetting thoughts have more weight than light aesthetic thoughts proven scientifically, called mental mass.  I gave a light thing to experience.  After you have mocked up the cat and told me about it, then I can see that you can see from your own “I am”/spiritual self, that you now see the difference.  

The next drill was to “be 3 feet (measurement) in back of your head.”  From the first exercise, this becomes easier.  

To give the feel of it just reverse it: “Try not to be 3 feet in back of your head”.  

It's like imagining you are driving your car or walking your dog on a leash or from the being (the “I Am” having the body in the front seat, very much in present time, hands on the wheel and in control but the spirit energy (elan vital) is in the back seat.  Really there is no thinking… just knowing and do it like you guide your thoughts to I want a vanilla ice cream cone … no I will take chocolate… you can change your mind and just observe.  Hope this helps… Like I said, feel free to e mail me and I can explain better.

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lots of wisdom unfolding here!

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Namaste Hummingbird,

What you said is so true. I am in awe of the amount of wisdom possessed by people here on gaia.  I try to drink it all in in hopes that I may gain a little myself and grow from it. -Om Shakti-

Kala

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Hi Eli,

Thank you Eli. You always have wonderful words of wisdom to share.  I understand that it can't be hurried and that there is no formula. I'm just searching and looking for some guidance. Thank for what you said about faith, I do have very strong faith, but what you said helps me to realize its importance. I  guess that my problem is that I can't seem to get past my astral body or personality. I feel caught up in human thought and am not in touch with my higher self or soul. I feel like I should be able to overcome this. I have to admit that I have failed in all my attempts at meditation. I even took a meditation class but that didn't help either.

Namaste
Kala

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Dear Kala,
When you are ready for meditation, it will happen as naturally as the beautiful flower which blossoms when it is season… be patient, and remember that meditation is not the answer for everyone, it does not work for all.
Selfless service, unconditional love, learning to forgive, holding on to basic truths and values, value based work, prayers…. the list is too long.
 “Dharma” is defined in Sanskrit as ”dharayati iti dharma” meaning That which “holds” is Dharma.
Just find the one which holds you, which resonates. You are OK and we are all fellow travellers.

“Truth is simple, but it is not simple to think simple”

Blessings
Eli
 

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Eli said:  “When you are ready for meditation, it will happen as naturally as the beautiful flower which blossoms when it is season… be patient, and remember that meditation is not the answer for everyone, it does not work for all.
Selfless service, unconditional love, learning to forgive, holding on to basic truths and values, value based work, prayers…. the list is too long.”

Thank you Eli, I had never actually heard about meditation not being for everyone before. But I will occasionally try it again in case I become ready for it as you say. In the meantime I will work on the other things you listed.

I feel like I have forgotten and lost touch with who I really am since I am in human form. Does that make sense?

Namaste
Kala

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Thank you Hummingbird. by “letting go of knowing who we are”  do you mean the ego?

Namaste
Kala

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This lovely thread is such a perfect reflection of OLMW. I am so enjoying reading the posts.

Kala, I guess I'm meaning preconceptions which are in a sense 'limited perceptions'. Ego is the creator of 'knowingness'.

love

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With most gracious permission from my Guruji, I add the following thoughts to the thread with some wisdom borrowed from his blogs on Gaia:

Kala said : I feel like I have forgotten and lost touch with who I really am since I am in human form.
May I most humbly say that none of us know who we really are. The four Mahavakyas of the Vedas say the following:
  “Aham Brahmasmi” - I am Brahman (God)
 ”Tat tvam asi” - You are That (Brahman)
 ”Ayam atma Brahma” - This inner SELF (soul) is Brahman
 ”Prajnaanam Brahma” - Supreme Knowledge is Brahman.

Adi Shankaracharya, in his famous composition Atma Shatakam said the following:

I am not mind, nor intellect, nor ego, nor the reflections of inner self (chitta).I am not the five senses. I am beyond that.I am not the ether, nor the earth, nor the fire, nor the wind . Neither can I be termed as energy (Prana) , nor five types of breath (vayus), nor the seven material essences, nor the five coverings (pancha-kosha).Neither am I the five instruments of elimination, procreation, motion, grasping, or speaking.I have no hatred or dislike,nor affiliation or liking,nor greed,nor delusion,nor pride or haughtiness,nor feelings of envy or jealousy.I have no duty (dharma),nor any money,nor any desire (kama),nor even liberation (moksha).I have neither virtue (Punyam),nor vice (Papam).I do not commit sins or good deeds,nor have happiness or sorrow,pain or pleasure.I do not need mantras, holy places,scriptures (Vedas), rituals or sacrifices (yagnas).I am none of the triad ofthe observer or one who experiences,the process of observing or experiencing,or any object being observed or experienced.I do not have fear of death,as I do not have death.I have no separation from my true self,no doubt about my existence,nor have I discrimination on the basis of birth.I have no father or mother,nor did I have a birth.I am not the relative,nor the friend,nor the guru,nor the disciple.I am all pervasive.I am without any attributes,and without any form.I have neither attachment to the world,nor to liberation (mukti).I have no wishes for anythingbecause I am everything,everywhere,every time,always in equilibrium.

I am indeed, That eternal knowing and bliss, Shiva,love and pure consciousness.

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Namaste Bhatta,

Thank you so much for your beautiful post.

Om Shakti
Kala

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Hello again Bhatta, I just wanted to say how wonderful it must be to have a guru to guide you. Thank you again for your wise counsel.

Namaste
Kala

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      Akhanda Mandalaakaaram Vyaaptam Yenam charaacharam
      Tatpadam Darshitam Yena Tasmai Sri Gurave Namaha.
(Guru can guide us to the supreme knowledge of THAT which pervades all the living and non-living beings in the entire Universe (namely Brahman). I salute such a Guru.)

      Agnyaana Timiraandhasya Gnyaana Anjana Shalaakayaa
      Chakshuhu Unmeelitam Yenam Tasmai Sri Gurave Namaha.
(Guru can save us from the pangs of ignorance (darkness) by applying to us the balm of knowledge or awareness of the Supreme, I salute such a Guru.)

      Guru Brahma Gurur Vishnu Guru Devo Maheshwaraha
      Guru Saakshat Para Brahma Tasmai Sree Gurave Namaha
(Guru is verily the representative of Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva. He creates, sustains knowledge and destroys the weeds of ignorance. I salute such a Guru.)

      Sthaavaram Jangamam Vyaaptam Yatkinchit Sacharaa Charam
      TatPadam Darshitam Yena Tasmai Sri Gurave Namaha.
(That Guru who can enlighten us about the all pervading consciousness present in all the three world or states (of Jaagrath, Swapna and Sushupti … activity, dream and deep sleep state), I salute such a Guru.)

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Hello again Kala. Here is a post in the Simple Truths room on meditation. I think it may help you to clarify some of your thoughts about meditation, how difficult the process is, and if properly done, how it can lead to liberation.
Please read what Swami Satyanamda says HERE

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Enjoying the different ways of approaching the intriguing question you have placed in our midst. Some thoughts come to mind:
Dear Kala, When I read your words, I see one who already has all the answers. You wrote:

“I feel like I have forgotten and lost touch with who I really am since I am in human form”

So- who is the 'I' who is in human form?

The one who decided to come to human life to play in this wonderful world of 'maya'-illusion?
The one who knows that she is in human form; but is not human form?

There are many forms of meditation and many experiences during meditation. The important thing, as I learned in one of the first meditation sessions I took was not how you feel during the session;but how the rest of your life becomes because you meditate. I think we have many ideas about what meditation 'should' be and that may take it away from our actual experiencing of it…..Including the thought that there is ever a time when we are not in meditation? Or that we are ever disconnected.

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Kala -

You ask hard questions, very deep searching questions and by the quality of your questions you draw answers from the best there is within this group.  Yet language cannot answer your questions directly.  We are the finger pointing at the moon but are not the moon itself.  We are pointing each in the direction of the location of the answers created for your soul alone.  Each of us in our own way has recognized by your questions that you walk the spiritual path.

The soul takes human form.  Yes, it does.  In my experience, too often as we begin on the spiritual path, our earthly life, our human form, seems to us to be what is “wrong” and we yearn to return to that place from which we came.  If incarnating was not beneficial to soul growth, it would be pointless to do so.  Therefore, it can not be less than some kind of precious gift.

Life often is difficult.  Often we simply have to persevere, keep taking that next step and pointing in the direction of my previous paragraph, realize there is a point to it all.  Life is a complex experience.  The interconnections are such that our minds can not even begin to put it all together.  We are each as a single brain cell in the mind of the Divine Intelligence that is the sum total of all that is.  Think of all sentience that you know exists and then realize, it is just the tip of the iceberg of all that is.

We are called upon to throw off what we've been told we should be, to throw off living our own life to fulfill other people's expectations.  Others telling us how we should use the preciousness of the limited time alotted to us, the amount of which is part of the mystery that forces us never to take any moment for granted, as indicating there are many more to come.  My understanding of what you are seeking indicates that perhaps some simple practices would assure you, that you are not disconnected from your soul  Truly, without your soul, the body would quickly decay and turn to dust.  Your body is the car, a vehicle to transport you.  Your soul is the driver of the car.  Think of your ego like a computer installed to take over some of the functions of the car, freeing your consciousness to expand.  Much of that computer's software is written by society, some is encoded in your blueprint to direct the basic functions.

I sense what you seek is to become acquainted with, to “realize” what is, your soul and separate out in order to understand, what is the ego.  Here are some little, easy practices.

[a]  For one month, define what you are not - these are software of the “programmed” self; which parents, environment, peers, school, media, etc have laid upon your sweet, pure soul in the form of this computer you live alongside with.  Get yourself a little notebook you can carry everywhere.  And jot down, for example, “I am not the doctor my parents wanted me to be” or if someone tells you that you ought to be a certain way, you could respond out loud or simply to your self “therefore, I must not be that, for if I were, they would not tell me I should be that”.  You see someone behaving in any way that does not resonate comfortably with your witnessing of it “ah, I am not that mother who yells at her child.”  After a month, you will have a good idea what your genuine, authentic self is not and by elimination what your self must be - love, peace, joy.

[b]  The following month, see everyone and everything as a mirror reflecting yourself to you.  Often it will be the reversed reflection, just as a mirror does.  It looks somewhat like you but different.  For instance, “she is so stubborn and obstinate”.  Now, turn that around “I am so stubborn and obstinate”, then ask yourself “is that statement true of 'me' at any time, in any way?”  At the end of that month, you will have a fuller concept of your genuine, authentic self.

[c]  Become acquainted with the state of happiness.  I've found the best way to do that is to sit outdoors, in some quiet spot where I won't be disturbed.  You need do this only 10 mins and and don't even have to stop thinking.  I find the indoors too artificial.  You are seeking to “feel” your geniune, authentic self.  So, you sit somewhere with minimal distraction, especially of an artificial kind, and it is worthwhile try to quiet your thoughts, but it is simply practice, it is simply training, there is no have to, no failure, no success - so be that lighthearted about the effort.  Let your breath help you.  Focus on your breath.  As you breathe in, remember how you “felt” when you were very happy for any reason.  You are not to re-live the event you attach to that happy state, only the feeling you felt, how you felt when you were happy.  

So, you can help to quiet your mind's chatter by thinking, “breathing in happiness”.  Then, breath out fear, anxiety, anger, jealousy, resentment and current emotions that trouble you.  Think, letting go, these are drifting away on my breath.  Many people believe they can't meditate because they can't stop or control their thoughts.  Thoughts arise.  No big deal.  When thoughts grab your attention, say “thinking” and go back to the breath again.  Happiness coming in, Unhappiness going out, letting it go, letting it drift away on my breathing out.  Breathing in, feeling happy again, feeling happiness.  Your whole day will unfold more smoothly with synchronicity and happy occurances, if you start your morning with this practice.

[4]  Live in the NOW.  Limit as much as possible thoughts related to tenses - past, present and future. That does not mean you don't act.  Need to cross the street?, cross the street.  Need a drink of water, have a drink of water.  Whatever.  If you begin to think, “why did she do that?, How could she have done that to me?”.  Say to yourself “past”.  If you begin to think, “I am going to the store”, say to yourself “present”.  If you begin to think, “I want to go to Hawaii next year”, say “future”.  Then, ask yourself, do I have any problem in this present moment of right now?  Most likely any problem you can think of is tense related.  Oh, that was my problem yesterday.  Oh, that is what I'm afraid will happen to me tomorrow.  

This last does not mean you don't “learn” from past experience, or “intend” to move in a particular direction in the future, or do whatever action living in the present requires (flow with the next logical step).  Just that you become aware of your soul watching your body take you through time.

This is way too long and I apologize for so many words.  It all began with a ?

Wishing you a most fascinating journey -
Deb

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Namaste Deb,

Thank so much for your generosity and kind understanding. I did not find your post too long at all. You are a well spring of information. I love the practices you described. I will use them.

-Om Shakti-
Kala

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Just for you this day, Kala, I leave this Rumi which I post in the Daily Guides at Living Metaphysics -

A Year With Rumi by Coleman Barks

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Dear Deb,

Thank you for finding and posting the beautiful Rumi for me. He does say it all. Just like Eli said “it is not simple to think simple.”

Namaste
Kala

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Oh Deb, beautiful Rumi. Yes, I have experienced this during my journey

 'Truth is simple, but it is not simple to think simple”

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ps: Kala, I have also posted a detailed article on Meditation in the Teachings of Masters room. You can find it HERE

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Thank you for your kindness and generosity Bhatta. I will look at your suggested readings on meditation.

Namaste
Kala

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Dear Kala,
I feel I owe you an explanation of my statement : remember that meditation is not the answer for everyone, it does not work for all.

In Ashtanga Yoga, there are EIGHT steps :

Yama
 Patanjali`s Yoga Sutra describes five yamas, which are also known as the great universal vows or the sarvabhauma maha vratas, because they are not limited by either class, creed, time or circumstances. They are the guidelines for how we interact with the outer world, the social disciplines to guide us in our relationships with others. These five are:

• Ahimsa (non-violence),
• Satya (truthfulness),
• Asteya (non-stealing),
• Brahmacharya (celibacy) and
• Aparigraha (non-covetousness)

Niyama
How we interact with ourselves, our internal world. The niyamas are about self-regulation—helping us maintain a positive environment in which to grow. Their practice harnesses the energy generated from the cultivation of the earlier yamas. Patanjali names five:

• Shaucha or purity,
• Santosha or contentment,
• Tapa or austerity,
• Swadhyaya or self-education and
• Ishwar-Pranidhan or meditating on the Divine

Asanas
A yogasana is a posture in harmony with one`s inner consciousness. It aims at the attainment of a sustained and comfortable sitting posture to facilitate meditation. Asanas also help in balancing and harmonizing the basic structure of the human body.
Asanas basically perform five functions:

• Conative,
• Cognitive,
• Mental,
• Intellectual and
• Spiritual.

Pranayama
Pranayama` is a compound term (`prana` and `yama`) meaning the maintenance of prana healthy throughout one`s life. More than a breath-control exercise, pranayama is all about controlling the life force or prana. Ancient yogis, who understood the essence of prana, studied it and devised methods and practices to master it. These practices are better known as pranayama. Since breath or prana is basic to life, the practice of pranayama helps in harnessing the prana in and around us, and by deepening and extending it, pranayama leads to a state of inner peace.

According to Hatha Yoga, pranayamas can be classified under:
• Sahita Kumbhaka,
• Surya Bhedi,
• Ujjayi,
• Sitali,
• Bhastrika,
• Bhramari,
• Murchha and
• Kewali.

Pratyahara
Pratyahara involves rightly managing the senses and going beyond them instead of simply closing and suppressing them. It involves reining in the senses for increased attention rather than distraction. Pratyahara may be practiced with mantra chanting/meditating and visualization techniques.

Dharana
Dharana involves developing and extending our powers of concentration. This consists of various ways of directing and controlling our attention and mind-fixing skills, such as concentrating on the chakras or turning inwards.

Dhyana
Dhyana is the state of MEDITATION when the mind attains the ability to sustain its attention without getting distracted. Strictly speaking, unlike the other six limbs of yoga, this is not a technique but rather a state of mind, a delicate state of awareness. This state rightfully precedes the final state of samadhi.

Samadhi
Samadhi, or total absorption, is the ability to become one with the True Self and merge into the object of concentration. In this state of mind, the perceiver and the object of perception unite through the very act of perception—a true unity of all thought and action. This is the acme of all yogic endeavors—the ultimate `yoga` or connection between the individual and the universal Soul!

Notice that MEDITATION (Dhyana) is the SEVENTH STAGE in Ashtanga yoga.

Before one could successfully perform meditation, one has to complete the FIRST SIX stages.
With the normal lifestyle of an average individual who i living in modern society, taking care of work pressures, family, friends, relatives and society in general makes it very difficult to really complete the first six stages of Ashtanga Yoga before attempting the Dhyana (meditation) step. It requires a total change of lifestyle and food habits.
Of course there are exceptions. I have been fortunate to have known some great people who have been able to achieve Kaivalya Dhyana ( spontaneous meditation) even living a normal life, but these are very rare and highly evolved spiritual souls.

That is why I  said ”remember that meditation is not the answer for everyone, it does not work for all”

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Eli, thank you for taking the time to explain that for me. It gives me a lot of food for thought. It's a bit overwhelming and intimidating. Looks like I have an awful lot of work ahead of me. Thank you for your guidance.

Namaste
Kala

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We're all learning in this thread; and yes, knowledge can overwhelm when it comes all together. But it's here on this thread, and we can take a read whenever it's time to come to it.

Implicit in “meditation is not for everyone” is the understanding that it IS for some. I have personally found group meditation a wonderful way to ease into meditation, specially with a facilitator/teacher who can guide.

The wonderful thing about all this, is that we don't have to understand everything intellectually, but with an inner knowing; that will guide us into the paths that are best suited for us. No one will ever know everything there is to know in one lifetime. But when we are presented, as here, with different paths, we can go into those paths that seem intuitively suited to us.

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Thank you Meenakshi.

Meenakshi said:  “We're all learning in this thread; and yes, knowledge can overwhelm when it comes all together. But it's here on this thread, and we can take a read whenever it's time to come to it…..The wonderful thing about all this, is that we don't have to understand everything intellectually, but with an inner knowing; that will guide us into the paths that are best suited for us. No one will ever know everything there is to know in one lifetime. But when we are presented, as here, with different paths, we can go into those paths that seem intuitively suited to us.”

I will keep that in mind. You are right in what you say. Thank you also for the link to the slideshow. And, yes, I have read about the chakras. I will definitely look at that.

Namaste
Kala

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Thank for that link Meenakshi. That Shockwave animation really is helpful. I will continue to go back to it.

Namaste
Kala

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Meenakshi and all,
I have posted some links and videos related to chakras as requested HERE

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Thank you Bhatta!