Spirituality or Religion ?

 I think Spirituality is born from a personal occurrence with a divine, psychic or mystical experience of one form or another which inevitably connects a person to All that Is/God/Goddess/Allah/Great Spirit /whatever you want to call it.

Religion is second hand opinion of someone else's divine experience. I think you will find that religions, and especially fanatical religions, tend to separate and divide people, while spirituality brings people together.

Thank God that Spirituality is on the increase!

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Why not bring light to a correct and meaningful understanding of religion, as a vehicle for spirituality in a communal setting and its evolution over time. It's much more interesting than to listen to someone dismissing religion outright. Dare to look deeper and study a bit more in order to be able to appreciate its true value for mankind.

No need to choose one over the other. Much nicer is to understand both.

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I have adopted what many would call a religion, or a “cult”.  A ceremony system based in christiantiy, born in the Amazon bason of brazil. It only has enhanced my spiritual understandings and experience, because it is formed on truth, and this system breaks the traditional barriers of other forms of christian worship by including into the ceremony, the sacrament of the most  ancient Queen of the forest…Rahinia da Floresta. Using the liquid consciusness of her Lord, Juramidam.

I understand the truth in what Bjorn is saying, because when going through very very intense electrical kundalini awakening experiences, I “expereinced” my body being pulled and shaped into many different yogic postures, I could never accomplish on my own, without the energy of “her” (kundalini shakti), moving me, and making my muscles capable of the crazy positions she put me in! Seriously, bending way over backwards to touch the ground, without loosing balance because her magnetic force was truly moving me. She would spinn me in circles (I later learned from my master this is the viver of the dervishes…to correct earth energies) and I came into comprehension of the reality the Hatha yoga postures themselves are a copying of those going through profound electrical awakenings, who later manifested the consciousness of shakit directly…so they COPIED their movements hoping to get the same results!!!!!!!!!!

(sorry, not possible, you gotta get the practices first…do them diligently, pray effectively, then loose your attachment to being in a body at all…so you can burn in the fires of devotion, and leave all delusion behind)

So all this copying and making a religion doesnt really work, unless, like the Brazilain indigenous folks knew, you keep the liquid light, the consciousness of divinity within your body, THEN do the “ceremony” the religion prescribes…this is the proper context of using one system, to enhance the other. Now I tell people “”so you wanna see god, huh?” Well then…go pactice the kriya every day, and then go do these ceremonies two or three times a month, and after some years, check in with yourself. Kriya electric breath practice is like rocket fule, and the ceremony…the liquid light within the container of this very strict and catholic looking ceremony container…is actually the rocket itself, the “vehicle” so to speak…

And now…I am bearing witness to the progress of those in my community that have made this combination and are working diligently, their spiritual program. Because, my freinds, our house is burning, and we must wake ourselves up as quickly as possible so we dont allow our mother, this earth…to become damaged any further. WE are the ones we have been waiting for…

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Liquid Light a beautiful description of Holy Spirit, or Ananda. To dive within in worship and in living faith, to honor God almighty, to pray for his coming, to believe in the power of resurrection, to “be still and know that I am God”.

Life eternal is eternal life. There is power in the name of God. It turns our face towards Him.
When the Spirit manifests through humans it wants to commune, it wants to share itself with others. Communial experience of the Spirit enlarges the vision and points a way toward a saving grace among many. There and then, we have to let go of our private relationship with the spirit and allow it to flood the awareness of the group, let go of control and let it do its own business. How wonderous this communial experience is!

The structure of Religion is inevitable when people come together to share this communial Spirit. And if it is constantly being informed and renewed with this living Spirit, it will be able to carry a living message forward in time and even evolve its understanding as it grows. (not without its mistakes as we all like to point out).

To me, to be able to understand the growth of Culture, the evolution of mankind, of Gods plan, of people learning about Life, it is fundamental to come to a clear insight of the positive and true purpose of religious or spiritual structure. Then, and only then will we be able to criticize any shortcomings and help to overcome them.

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hhhhmmmm “criticize short commings”  There is never a need for this if folks have proper understanding of ceremonies, spiritual teachings, and religious ritual, if people are listening, paying attention and following through with what they are learning.

I like to explain this using the concept of a “burrden basket” that people carry around on their backs…the purpose of spiritual understanding, is to hold perspectives that keep your basket empty…or without any burdens..meaning NO doubts, no criticisms, no judgements, no resentments, angers, etc…as spiritual beings, our job is to become more spiritual, by cleaning these energies out of ourselves.

The point of religious ritual, is the same as the spiritual ceremony…This, is to create a container that can magnify spiritual energy. A container, or a ceremony or a ritual has the ability to make magnetic seals around the area, so the positive magnetic energy can be held inside the ceremony grounds, or container…and not leak any energy out of this area. Then, the energy is expanded through the prayer and workship that goes on for hours…this focused prayer and worship, when done properly, expands the magnetic positive energy in the gathered group, within this sealed container. If the heart is sincere enough,  or…if there is enough positive light in the heart….this “triggers” an even bigger magnification…and POP…spontanteous healing from illness, spontaneous healing from mental heaviness or illness of the the spirit.

To criticise is to say “god is not perfect” which is not truth. Perfection exists now…from moment now to moment now….fine to express truth “hey..our goal was this…the result was that” which is not criticism…it is honesty….

If we, as humans cannot use our spiritual ceremony to heal our bodies and our minds, then we are not loving god well enough to magnify love well enough, to get  this natural result, in our natural law system. All these medical centers and western medicines…are a gigantic diversion from truth…we are whole, born perfect…not in need of anything but more expansion of love, and wholeness to keep body and mind well.

It is negative mind..ego…the contraction of negative and critical thinking that has caused all this darkness and delusion and illness……check out the ceremony or ritual photo on this icon…(if it has changed, go see my photos blog) Amazing…this thing called spiritual ceremony…TRUST ME, FOLKS…CEREMONIES CAUSE SPONTANEOUS HEALINGS ALL THE TIME!!!!!! When you know how to use them…..

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Harnessing the power of the Absolute. Tempering and forging the the sword, making it stronger, sharper. Imbuing it with good loving spirit. Worshiping together, raising our voices, praying out aloud with a surrendered heart, with sincere maturity. Churning the sea,  turning it into butter.  All this applies to  the training of Aikido, a japanese non-violent  martial Art, a purification, giving birth to valor, strenght,  integrity. It applies to religious and spiritual devotion.

Faith opens the door. Trust makes you relaxed. Love shines within.