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Why This, Why Now?Lahn said May 13, 9:25 AM: |
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I realize I am asking questions to which there are no satisfying answers…but I feel compelled to. I wasn't sure about talking about my thoughts and feelings right now but something tells me it would be wise. I strongly believe that honesty is the way to healing and in sharing with others for support and insight. I hope I don't sound whiny or overly dramatic. I am aware of difficulties many people face, especially now. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?HummingBird said May 13, 10:03 AM: |
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Dear Lahn, it is so natural that you should feel shocked when hearing your brother in law has taken his own life. Because you didnt have a lot of contact with him, in some ways the loss may feel even greater. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?Mikey_Dee said May 13, 1:31 PM: |
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Lahn, death, I know is an inevitability and I feel that when we meet it so closely, as you are doing, it helps us to appreciate LIFE & LIVING. When I discovered in 1996 that I had a fatal illness(potentially) I had a new viw on the life/death paradox which I expressed here: http://groups.gaia.com/openness/conversations/view/426287#427606 |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?Cindy said May 13, 10:28 AM: |
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We know there is always a feeling of unfound guilt; suicide is so personal that even a person like myself who going to be a therapist, could miss some signals. Maybe, in the future, facts will come out that will give you more understanding. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?ingebrita said May 13, 11:19 AM: |
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Hi Lahn, I was touched by your story… My best friend's husband killed himself in 2002 and the shock and grief seemed unbearable. It still makes me cry at times. There are no answers to satisfy and I don't think you're being whiny or overly dramatic. Suicide is such a shock to our minds and hearts it's hard to know how to respond, how to even take it in. For most people talking about it over and over again, and crying often, is the only way though it. Each time we share the story the more we can heal. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?pookietooth said May 13, 12:27 PM: |
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You have had a lot of death and tragedy in a short period of time. It's hard when someone close dies, and I can't even imagine how hard when they take their own life. Please be gentle to yourself. I am so sorry you have had this shock. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?Zephyr said May 13, 2:33 PM: |
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Lahn, having experienced multiple deaths in our family a few years ago, I realise what a difficult time it can be, there is no right or wrong way to get through it only your own way. I can say what helped us, in our case children were also involved they lost a grandparent, uncle, brother, and then step mother and at a tender age they had a run of 4 deaths to adjust to. We didn't clam up for fear of hurting each other, we talked, shared the grief, shared the expenses as the deaths were unexpected and finance not planned for, and shared memories and as time went by more of the good memories came to the fore, the children kept photos and mementos, which encouraged remembrence and conversation. We cried together and alone, the pain has eased with time, though we never forget. There may be practical help you can give your sister, while you are all trying to adjust to events. I know you teach guided imagery, could you use your imagination and skill to help yourself and family through this? Grief is stress, be gentle on yourselves and be creative in ways that suit you and your family. I hope some of this is helpful to you. You don't need to apologise for asking for help, you are going through a normal reaction to an intense situation that no one wants to experience. but is a part of life. You and your family are in my prayers, sending love to you all. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?Artist for Peace (for now...) said May 13, 4:46 PM: |
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HI sweet Lahn… |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?ange said May 13, 5:11 PM: |
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Dear Lahn… |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?Meenakshi said May 13, 5:29 PM: |
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Dear Lahn, to open up the heart of compassion in others is the greatest gift you can give. In doing that, you have shown us again your own beautiful heart. Sitting with you in silence, dear sister. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?sandy said May 13, 5:44 PM: |
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So sorry to hear you're news, Lahn. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?Sylvia said May 13, 10:03 PM: |
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Lahn - I am sitting with you quietly in your tearing questions, your primal anguish and the flow of your feelings. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?debyemm said May 14, 6:54 AM: |
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Lahn, |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?Lahn said May 14, 12:12 PM: |
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I am so touched and moved by such an outpouring of compassion and support from all of you. Please know your loving, caring responses are helping me greatly. I know that processing this would take time but your sharing is like a balm to my aching heart and soul. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?Zephyr said May 15, 2:05 AM: |
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Lahn, come use the balm whenever you need, our hearts ache with you. Sharing with you brings tears, acceptance, remembering, I thought of my grandson, only 18 when he died - pictures in my mind of his laugh and the twinkle in his eye when he pinched extra chips off my partners plate, he was a gentle giant, with a great sense of fun, he once said to me I love you Gran you are the most content happiest person I know - I treasure these memories and try to continue being that which he saw in honour of his memory, he would want that for his two sisters and father, who also hold him in their heart. So one way is to try and see things from the point of view of the departed loved one and what they would wish for those who survive them then picture moving into that space and make it a reality, would that fit with your guided imagery teachings? I like to think it might free their spirit to move on to the light. The sadness remains underlying alongside new possibilities for love and joy a sweet / sadness of love and acceptance as we move on from moment to moment in this treasure that is life. Just sharing what helped me hoping it might resonate with others and help them too. Love, and a big melting hug from Gael. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?Dryad said May 14, 5:42 PM: |
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Dear Lahn, |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?HummingBird said May 15, 6:54 AM: |
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I am moved by each post. Lahn you spoke from the heart and awakened every heart. Anyone who has ever experienced loss and pain responds in recognition and resonates with you. Each delves into their own heart where pain has been experienced and transforms this into understanding of the pain of another and compassion. Very precious |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?HummingBird said May 15, 7:27 AM: |
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Just after posting the above I stumbled on this: “The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of those depths. These persons have an appreciation, a sensitivity, and an understanding of life that fills them with compassion, gentleness, and a deep loving concern.”
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Re: Why This, Why Now?Sylvia said May 15, 6:53 PM: |
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Dryad - you gifted us profoundly through sharing your guts and your journey in this post. [receiving this gift with sacred honor] |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?pookietooth said May 15, 6:16 PM: |
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I can so relate to much of what you have said, Lahn. I too, have felt like dying at many times, and didn't do anything about it mostly due to fear of death, but also not wanting to hurt those close to me. I have had a lot of loss as well – both my parents by the time I was 30 all my grandparents by age 19 (the year my father died), a favorite uncle, and a miscarriage. Through it all, I kept feeling that it so wasn't fair that I had so little family left, so much taken from me. However, I have had healing more recently, and I cannot even tell you how or why. I still feel a big hole in my life caused by all this loss, but I also feel a deeper strength, the survival instinct or something. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?Lahn said May 18, 10:33 AM: |
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Again, my sincere gratitude to everyone here for so much lovingkindness. Out of this unspeakable tragedy, there is grace…a gift, for it brought my family together. I have reconciled with my estranged, grieving sister. No doubt my inner work through meditation and support I received from loving friends here all helped me to deal with what is happening constructively. I intend to be there for my sister and assist her every way I can. I am learning precious lessons of life. Each one of you played a part in that. You are a warm embrace, a gentle hand holding my unsteady hand, a light illuminating dark night of my soul. |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?HummingBird said May 19, 12:21 AM: |
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Lahn, thank you for sharing your gifts with us, they are treasured |
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Re: Why This, Why Now?soccermom said Jun 1, 12:52 AM: |
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3 years ago on July 28, my nephew of 18 took his own life. I also felt terrible, because his family lives 15 minutes away from me in the same town. I never saw them because I was so busy with my own life. I kept thinking that if I had been in regular contact with them, even just had them over for a braai (barbecue) once in a while, I could have picked something up. |
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