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...(more)“In my garden there is a large place for sentiment. My garden of flowers is also my garden of thoughts and dreams. The thoughts grow as freely as the flowers, and the dreams are as beautiful.” Abram L. Urban

“Our life is composed greatly from dreams, from the unconscious, and they must be brought into connection with action. They must be woven together.” Anais Nin

“Your vision will become clear only when you can look into your own heart… . Who looks outside, dreams; who looks inside, awakes.” Carl Jung

“This whole creation is essentially subjective, and the dream is the theater where the dreamer is at once: scene, actor, prompter, stage manager, author, audience, and critic.” Carl Jung

“But why are people interested in learning to be conscious in their dreams? According to my own experience, and the testimony of thousands of other lucid dreamers, lucid dreams can be extraordinarily vivid, intense, pleasurable, and exhilarating. People frequently consider their lucid dreams as among the most wonderful experiences of their lives.

If this were all there were to it, lucid dreams would be delightful, but ultimately trivial entertainment. However, as many have already discovered, you can use lucid dreaming to improve the quality of your waking life. Thousands of people have written to me at Stanford telling how they are using the knowledge and experience they have acquired in lucid dreams to help them get more out of living.” Stephen Laberge

“Pause now to ask yourself the following question: “Am I dreaming or awake, right now?” Be serious, really try to answer the question to the best of your ability and be ready to justify your answer.” Stephen Laberge

“I suggested that dreams are simulations of the world created by our perceptual systems. The introduction to waking perception that you just read will help you understand this theory.

Consider, first of all, how sleep modifies the process of perception. During REM sleep, as you learned in chapter 2, sensory input from the outside world and body movement are both suppressed, while the entire brain is highly active. The activity of the brain raises certain schemas above their perceptual thresholds. These schemas enter consciousness, causing the dreamer to see, feel, hear, and experience things not present in the external environment.

Ordinarily, if you were to see something that wasn't really there, contradictory sensory input would rapidly correct your mistaken impression. Why doesn't the same thing happen during dreaming? The answer is because there is little or no sensory input available to the brain for correcting such mistakes.” Stephen Laberge

“If you are having a dream and you think it's real, it can get very scary. Say you are dreaming you are tightrope walking across Niagara Falls. If you fall off, you plunge to your death. So you are walking very slowly, very carefully. Then suppose you start lucid dreaming, and you realise it's all a dream. What do you do? Become more cautious and careful? Noo, you start jumping up and down on the tightrope, you do flips, you bounce around, you have a ball - precisely because you know isn't real. When you realise it's a dream you can afford to play.

The same thing happens when you realise that ordinary life is a dream, just a movie, just a play. You don't become more cautious, more timid, more reserved. You start jumping up and down and doing flips, precisely because it's all a dream, it's all pure Emptiness. You don't feel less, you feel more - because you can afford to. You are no longer afraid of dying, and therefore you are not afraid of living. You become radical and wild, intense and vivid, shocking and silly. You let it all come pouring through, because it's all your dream.

Life then assumes its true intensity, its vivid luminosity, its radical effervescence.” Ken Wilber

“In all chaos there is a cosmos, in all disorder a secret order.” Carl Jung

“Learn the true topography; the monstrous and wonderful archetypes are not inside you, not inside your consciousness; you are inside them, trapped and howling to get out.” R. A. Lafferty

“Dreaming is the vehicle that brings dreamers to this world,” the emissary said, “and everything sorcerers know about dreaming was taught to them by us. Our world is connected to yours by a door called dreams. We know how to go through that door, but men don't. They have to learn it.” Carlos Castaneda

“Once Chuang Chou dreamt he was a butterfly, a butterfly flitting and fluttering around, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn't know he was Chuang Chou. Suddenly he woke up and there he was, solid and unmistakable Chuang Chou. But he didn't know if he was Chuang Chou who had dreamt he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming he was Chuang Chou.” Chang Tao-ling

“The distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.” Albert Einstein

“Reality is merely an illusion, although a very persistent one.” Albert Einstein

“Now here is a key: you want to make it real and present in the realm of your consciousness. You don't say “I'm going to do such and such” - it already has happened. Now, is consciousness real? It exists and it is very powerful. The idea is to have this mesh between your consciousness - your visualization - and the so-called material world.” George Leonard

“Intent is not a thought, or an object, or a wish. Intent is what can make a man succeed when his thoughts tell him that he is defeated. It operates in spite of the warrior's indulgence. Intent is what makes him invulnerable. Intent is what sends a shaman through a wall, through space, to infinity.” Carlos Castaneda

“A shaman is a healer of relationships, between mind and body, between people and circumstances, between humans and Nature, and between matter and spirit.” Serge Kahili King

“…find the courage to break those agreements that are fear-based and claim your personal power.” Don Miguel

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Ian Gardner said Jul 24, 5:51 PM:

We all have a lot of dreams, perhaps most dreams, which are just a mass of apparently meaningless clutter; unconnected bits and pieces, and we tend to wake up menting, 'What on Earth was all that about?' !!!!

Well, it seems to me that these are not dreams as such but simply the result of the moul (mind) bedding down the myriad of experiences the entity (spirit + moul) has encountered during the preceding day or recently. Something like a video on FF⟩⟩.
[Actually, it is incorrect to try to compartmentalize this in terms of time because time would be irrelevant in the context of this 'work'.]
As to why this activity appears on our “screens” I have no idea but I am posting this here to save dreamers unnecessary confusion and/or concern.

Any comments anyone?

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J~E~S~S said Jul 24, 6:54 PM:

Sometimes I wake up and know that the dream I just had was only because of a movie or tv show I'd seen that day. There are some people that would say “but your mind picked that imagery as a symbol for something in your life!” But it's not always the case. Each dreamer has to decide.

I actually go out and do things that I had dreampt of the night before because I take it as my higher self is asking me to do it. I had a dream this week that I was in an electronics store picking out headphones and judging them for their flatness at the ear. I listen to Holosync, and my headphones have been on the fritz for a year. It truly is time to replace them. So, the same day I woke up with that dream, I made it a priority to get some new headphones. Pity I got home and found out the real problem with my sound system is the cd player I recently bought. But the new headphones helped me isolate the problem!

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Ian Gardner said Jul 25, 1:14 AM:

Jess,
re “But the new headphones helped me isolate the problem!”
Well done! Many would have only seen the negative aspect of this.

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Marky Mark said Jul 25, 6:00 AM:

Hi Ian,

All dreams are communications from Source that are interpreted through the ego. The stuff left over in your mind when you wake up is NOT the dream, but rather the ego's INTERPRETATION of the communication.

The ego interprets the communication through what it knows and that is the day to day activities of the dreamer. This does not invalidate the dream, just makes it a little bit harder to understand.

I would not recommend dismissing any dreams that you remember, simply because it is interpreted through your day to day activities. I would however suggest that the dreamer ask for clarification or for a better interpretation of the communication.

- Mark -

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willowspirit said Jul 25, 6:49 AM:

Hello,
this is wide area and it could push us in some kind of trouble or solution. I agree with you Mark, since dreams are some kind of guiding force in every day life, also (yes, we are in first ,4-dimensional beings) and sometimes analyzing of some common things could extend during night, like it never actually stop. Some things must close own circle and dreaming could be the way how it works. As we all already know there are so many levels and symbols in dreams, which work partially or at same time, independently on point who dreamer is. Dreamer as individual is analyzing and choosing importance level.
From my point I'm enjoying in beholding of dreams as parts of our energetically beings or wider.

Thanks!

Vesna

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