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Star Elder

Glynnda [no longer around] said Apr 23, 2008, 6:24 AM:

 

Namaste…

I had a dream recently and was wondering if anyone shared this experience of Star Elders. I had never heard of them before.

I was in New York where I live, and there was some kind of terrorist attack. I crossed a river with others where we were gathering. Suddenly people started falling from the sky….but it was sort of a suicide. They were doing it on purpose. Suddenly a native american indian fell a little way from me and I recognized him as a friend. I went up to his body and asked why he had fallen. As I was looking at him, his body disappeared and in its place was a small bronze plaque that said “Cifero, Star Elder”. As I stood there mourning, I heard his voice doing an indian chant. I asked if that was him and he replied with the same chant. Everytime I asked a question, he replied with a chant. Then I asked if he was now my guide and he chanted again. I felt good that he was still in my life and then I woke up. Has anyone had experiences with Star Elders or have any insights into this dream. Thank you. Glynnda

  Ian Gardner : Mystic

Re: Star Elder

Ian Gardner said Apr 25, 2008, 12:55 AM:

 

I have no experience with Star Elders, Glynnda, but your experience seems to be more of a visitation than a dream. Could this have anything to do with your feelings about the state of the “collective human psyche” and the 'suicide' of the human race which is in the offing if we do not mend our ways PDQ?

 

Re: Star Elder

Glynnda [no longer around] said Apr 25, 2008, 10:38 PM:

 

actually it felt like the “suicide” was more of a sacrifice to be able to serve from the other side. though thay made no sense to me either. it did feel like a visitation as it ws very vivid and I felt very connected to Cifero. Just not sure what…if anything to do with him….

  Ian Gardner : Mystic

Re: Star Elder

Ian Gardner said Apr 25, 2008, 11:55 PM:

 

Ok, here are a few possible clues for you to assess:

I was in New York where I live, and there was some kind of terrorist attack. Your spiritual 'base' being challenged.
I crossed a river with others where we were gathering. Like the term  “crossing of the Rubicon”  - a leap forward., apparently involving a group, large or small.
Suddenly people started falling from the sky….  Foretelling, or refering to, the advent on Earth of  a batch of “helpers” or messengers.
but it was sort of a suicide. The death of old habits, mentatliy, values et al. [Hence, the feeling of sacrifice would be appropriate?]
They were doing it on purpose. Volunteers - not those on the karmic wheel.
Suddenly a native american indian fell a little way from me and I recognized him as a friend.
You must have positive feelings towards these peoples.
 I went up to his body and asked why he had fallen. Was “fallen” the actual word you used? If not, what was it?
As I was looking at him, his body disappeared and in its place was a small bronze plaque that said “Cifero, Star Elder”. The answer shows that the physical aspect of the 'coming ' is not significant and that the significance is in “Cifero, Star Elder”
As I stood there mourning,
I cannot explain the mourning except to say that, if it is really mourning I have got the dream interpretation incorrect!
I heard his voice doing an indian chant. I asked if that was him and he replied with the same chant. Everytime I asked a question, he replied with a chant. Then I asked if he was now my guide and he chanted again. I felt good that he was still in my life and then I woke up. All this seems to be confirmation of the above.
Has anyone had experiences with Star Elders or have any insights into this dream.”

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Re: Star Elder

Sprinklez o; said Apr 26, 2008, 8:16 AM:

 

Glynda. i have heard of star elders before. i had a dream about them.

 

Re: Star Elder

Glynnda [no longer around] said Apr 27, 2008, 7:06 PM:

 

Hi Demetra…what has been your experience with Star Elders. I'd like to know how to best work with them…..Thank you…

 

Re: Star Elder

Glynnda [no longer around] said Apr 27, 2008, 7:05 PM:

 

Thanks, Ian. This all made sense to me. I'm still trying to process how to use this experience and connect with Cifero. And you're right…it wasn't mourning so much as not understanding why he would have made the decision to fall…or jump knowing he was going to die. I'll spend more time with your insights. Blessings..G

  Ian Gardner : Mystic

Re: Star Elder

Ian Gardner said Apr 27, 2008, 11:44 PM:

 

Glynnda, there is no need to try to connect with Cifero. If it is meant to be it will.
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Re: Star Elder

Glynnda [no longer around] said Apr 28, 2008, 8:45 PM:

 

yes….i must stop this trying thing I do. thank you!

 

Re: Star Elder

leahbird said Jul 27, 2008, 2:20 PM:

 

Glynnda,

I just found this amazing description of Star Walkers and Star Elders.  I had never heard of this before but just found it.  Thank you so much for introducing me to this!

http://www.starelders.com/

love,
Leah

  Dreamtraveler : shaman of experience

Re: Star Elder

Dreamtraveler said Aug 3, 2008, 5:47 PM:

 

Hi Glynnda,

I have a slightly different twist to your dream and some info that I think may be associated.

I have become familiar with an aspect of the eternal us referred to as dream walkers or dream ancestors, as just two ways they have been referred to.

I think in the context of the feeling of being starseed, that these aspects of us would introduce themselves as Star Elders. They are the aspects of the eternal and unlimited us that brought into being the ideas and concepts of the physical experience we are having, and that share an unlimited amount of energy in it's expression and interaction with us.

I believe the eternal, deeper aspects of us, are always trying to share information with us that will help us to become familiar with those parts of ourselves that we may not be totally accepting of yet. In this light my impression is as follows.

New York is where you live, what you are familiar with……you. The terrorists are aspects of you that you keep hidden, that you can't quite get to accepting yet. Nothing bad here, this is the deep stuff that we always think we have finally left behind, only to once again have it rise up to greet us in our life.

The river is symbolic of the eternal energy that flows and the way that people feel there is a separation from one side of the river to the other. The people that gather are all various aspects of you.

The people falling from the sky, as if in sacrifice, are those that will be leaving this planet, in very distinct and well choosen ways, to help those ” left behind” to see things a little more clearly as each of these events take place.

The Tha native man, may be a representation of onbe of the dream ancestors I mentioned earlier. One group of these aspects of etrnity are called Milumet, and are the keepers of the knowledge of us as spirit, and usually asociated their energy with native peoples.

I believe his chanting inn response to questions, was a means of helping you move beyond having to define things and apply logic and intellect to your experiences, and allow for energy that may bring info that will fall outside of the concepts that are presently held by you/us.

Sounds like a very powerful interaction is there for the having, and the most fulfillment will come by alllowing it to move in it's own way, without the need to define it in any manner.

So as my friend Ian has said….my two cents worth. have a great day Glynnda, Chuck :)

  rhythmaware : (((~))) Fractal Transcendence

Re: Star Elder

rhythmaware said Oct 11, 8:53 PM:

 

It is a beautiful dream! This time seems to be growing near. Look into Native Prophecy around the times we are in, if you have not already, you probably have. The Hopi may have useful insights. Whatever is exposed in your inquiry is yours to keep. I am grateful for your energy.

Bless.
(((~)))