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The Soiled Madonnayaffie said Jun 8, 2008, 9:17 PM: |
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The Soiled Madonna Love, respect and happiness. |
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Re: The Soiled Madonnayaffie said Jun 8, 2008, 9:25 PM: |
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Sorry, I don't know what I am doing…and i think I didn't put my poems in the right place.. |
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Re: The Soiled Madonnaalexander rhubarb said Jul 26, 2008, 12:01 PM: |
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Hi Yaffie. Wow quite a poem. It is long enough to satisfy most readers. Poems can be seen as resumes and treated the same. No criticism intended. I am impressed at how much writing you have accomplished. In U. I was often criticized for my writing style, and a prof. asked if I wrote poetry and suggested that the two are total opposites in the spectrum and that my long time poetics were holding more academic writings from appearing. Only now do I see his point clearly. Not just you or this poem but from many on Gaia who are obvious academics, who I now realize are stifled by voice as I , but in the reverse sense. I have taken a U. specialized poetry course six students with one poet prof. for one year. This is where I was conditioned into the virtues of free verse. If I can help in your poetry endeavour in any way, esp. as my name indicates, Nit Picker, my background is in anthropology, I am at your or any other Gaians who would appreciate , hopefully , constructive criticism. Thanks for the poem and I will read it again. A. Rhubarb |
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Re: The Soiled Madonnayaffie said Jul 26, 2008, 12:24 PM: |
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Thank you, alex… |
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Re: The Soiled Madonnaalexander rhubarb said Jul 31, 2008, 7:31 AM: |
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Hi yaffie. Let me say that for “off the cuff” unworked material this is an achievement in my opinion. I must say that the passion that carries you through this piece is the grout of the poem. With regards to the diff. between a poem and lyrics. A poem can and generally does stand alone. It does not need or encourage additional form or medium. The poem is a medium . A medim for entrained thoughts.Which is why your poem could be written “off the cuff” I hope this makes sense, and not verbosity to you. Lyrics can be spun off and you here all the time how so-and-so wrote this on the plane etc.. The poem comes in all sorts of shapes and sizes from sonnets to free form. The sameness of all is that are all individual impressions, bundled up waiting to be unpacked like a picnic basket, or luggage on vacation. Lastly, great poems are long lasting and perhaps great lyrics evolve into great poems with age, many skipping songs ring around the rosey, childrens verses, ie. London Bridge in my opinion reflect this transition.
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