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    <title>Gaia: Poets Workshop. - Poets Workshop.  Light critique or Indepth critique,  please state preference. - Something Different</title>
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    <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:06:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Something Different</title>
      <author>http://symbol.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>sherab </dc:creator>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:06:59 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;      I liked:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;surrounded by candles&lt;br /&gt;and scents of old lovers,&lt;br /&gt;sitting in her den, pausing&lt;br /&gt;breath as she runs an errant finger&lt;br /&gt;through the alcoves of her hand.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;But &amp;quot;medusan witchery&amp;quot; seems kind of judgmental.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In the sense that the subjects seductive behavior might some how &amp;#39;freeze&amp;#39; the speaker,&amp;nbsp; as Medusa&amp;#39;s&amp;nbsp; victims were turned to stone, then I&amp;#39;d say OK, but there&amp;#39;s not a lot to support that. &lt;br /&gt;I like the image of feet tangled on the ottoman, but that alone does not seem very seductive.&amp;nbsp; (I imagine socks.) &lt;br /&gt;The word entangle, bothers me a little. It does support the medusa motif, (perhaps the only word that does,) But it implies that her feet capture something else in their tangles. &lt;br /&gt;Like:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Her feet entangle mine on the ottoman.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;I wouldn&amp;#39;t leave out the object of the sentence in this case. You could say:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Her feet entangle each other...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;or:&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;Her feet tangle on the ottoman.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;if it&amp;#39;s just her feet writhing around like snakes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, &amp;quot;flaxen strand&amp;quot; seems out of place. It sounds blond and wholesome. If you used some serpentine, snakelike imagery it would broadcast the medusan quality.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Although Medusa is sometimes described as fair, The Gorgon sisters all inspired a paralyzing dread. Of the three&amp;nbsp; only Medusa was mortal, and when Perseus took her head they wept with such passion that Athena created the flute, to commemorate their lament. &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Re: Something Different</title>
      <author>http://addresstofollow.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>Zephyr</dc:creator>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:32:39 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;      Hi Drew, I love the surprise end - just behind her eyes lurks medusan witchery, I think I would suggest, try a little simile or metaphor earlier in the poem to hint at this without revealing it too soon. See poetic techniques below if it helps&lt;br /&gt;For me something different felt a litttle vague, I wanted you to paint a word picture of how she was different? in what way authentic? &lt;br /&gt;Personally I found poisonous velvet, though original,&amp;nbsp; a bit of a stretch, difficult to imagine, it sounded like a contradiction, I could believe invasive poison ivy or opium or some such. Nice feel to the poem, hope something here is helpful, if not discard. &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Re: Something Different</title>
      <author>http://Meenakshi.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator> Meenakshi</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-448855</guid>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:38:12 GMT</pubDate>
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&lt;p&gt;      Drew, I&amp;#39;m no poet, but as a reader, if I may:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;First, I enjoyed it. It took me to a time perhaps of Sheba - long ago.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Then:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Not an angel, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;nor a muse, &lt;br /&gt;something &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;different.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic"&gt;Suggestions:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Not an angel, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;not a muse, &lt;br /&gt;something &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;different.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-style: italic"&gt;Or- &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not an angel nor a muse&lt;br /&gt;Something different.&lt;br /&gt;--&lt;br /&gt;Question:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;sitting in her den, pausing&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;span&gt;breath as she runs an errant finger &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Is this &amp;#39;breath&amp;#39; the noun or breathe the verb? I couldn&amp;#39;t quite get that.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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      <title>Something Different</title>
      <author>http://mIRRORMERE.gaia.com</author>
      <dc:creator>mIRRORMERE</dc:creator>
      <guid>tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-447527</guid>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:12:16 GMT</pubDate>
      <link>http://groups.gaia.com/poetry__workshop/conversations/view/447527</link>
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&lt;p&gt;      &lt;div style="border: 1px solid black; margin: 0px; padding: 2px; left: -100px; top: -100px; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: auto; height: auto; position: absolute; background-color: rgb(168, 236, 255); -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-align: left; z-index: 1410065406;"&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: 1px dotted black; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-top: 2px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border: 1px solid black; margin: 0px; padding: 2px; left: -100px; top: -100px; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: auto; height: auto; position: absolute; background-color: rgb(168, 236, 255); -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-align: left; z-index: 1410065406;"&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: 1px dotted black; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-top: 2px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div style="border: 1px solid black; margin: 0px; padding: 2px; left: -100px; top: -100px; visibility: hidden; display: none; width: auto; height: auto; position: absolute; background-color: rgb(168, 236, 255); -moz-border-radius-topleft: 5px; -moz-border-radius-topright: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright: 5px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft: 5px; font-family: Arial; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-align: left; z-index: 1410065406;"&gt;&lt;div style="border-bottom: 1px dotted black; padding-bottom: 2px; padding-top: 2px;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;    &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Something Different&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Not an angel, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;nor a muse, &lt;br /&gt;something &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;different.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;Adorned in poisonous velvet,&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;she slips &lt;br /&gt;into my thoughts.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Once again,&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Her feet entangle on the ottoman. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;An invitation &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;no more than a wicked pass, &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a thought, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;surrounded by candles &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;and scents &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;of old lovers, &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;sitting in her den, pausing&lt;/span&gt; &lt;br /&gt; &lt;span&gt;breath as she runs an errant finger &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;through the alcoves of her hand.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;She rests &lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;a flaxen strand on the ridge &lt;br /&gt;of her upper lip.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just behind her eyes &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;lurks Medusan witchery.&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;Drew Adler&lt;/span&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&#169; 1998 All Rights Reserved&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is the prequel to Craving Calliope.&amp;nbsp; I still don&amp;#39;t think that it&amp;#39;s finished.&amp;nbsp; It&amp;#39;s &lt;br /&gt;been through several revisions.&amp;nbsp; I need help with a final revision so &lt;span style="font-style: italic"&gt;please&lt;/span&gt; critique it.&amp;nbsp; :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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