Call of humanity

Do we believe that the universe will bestow “enlightenment” or “salvation” on anyone in our wonderful modern world of mass communication and technology where we can watch children get slaughtered or starve to death on CNN while we are in our warm or air-conditioned homes having our supper, while the kids are in the den playing 300$ dollar computer games. Then we go to the Ashram, Buddhist Temple, Mosque, Synagogue or Church and pray to God for enlightenment or salvation or some kind of mundane desire we wish god to bestow on us. Rarely, do we, who are at a relative degree of comfort need the desperate help we know many of our people around the world need. WHILE OUR KNOWN BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE BEING TORTURED TO DEATH, STARVED TO DEATH, WORKED TO DEATH, SCREWED TO DEATH BEFORE OUR EYES. Do we who call on God or seek enlightenment honestly believe he hears our prayers when we as a race are in a position to eliminate this suffering, whether it is caused by god or man, of our people all over the world?

If we who are comfortable, with warm homes, big TV sets, computers, video games for our kids, going to the movies every Saturday, pray to our god every day for something, what do we think the enslaved 9 year old Indian child who is forced to work 15 hours a day, or the African child in the Sudan or Mali who is a slave on a cocoa plantation, the starving peasants in Haiti or the child or adult sex slave in Bosnia, Senegal, or Myanmar are praying for. Who is answering their prayers? 

In ancient times or only as far back as 100 or 200 years ago the world was not homogeneous like today because of technology and mass communication, and could not know as we intimately do today of the horrors that exist in our world. So today there is not much excuse for allowing the evils and horrors that humans or nature does to our less fortunate people.

Instead we build weapons of mass destruction worth zillions of dollars and spend billions to arm our children in huge armies of mass murder and we think we are civilized?

IF IT WERENT SO PITIFUL IT WOULD BE FUNNY

And as for my dear mystical brothers and sisters who are seeking nearness of god or enlightenment : due you honestly believe the universe will let any of us in the realm of beauty when we sit by and let universal ugliness and suffering on a grand scale exist without us making a sincere effort in eradicating these known worldwide horrors. These horrors are not happening in another world, they are happening in this world 24 hours a day to real flesh and blood human beings, whose souls are in a pain we can not conceive of, and we want enlightenment or salvation! Enlightenment or salvation to do what? Relieve suffering; we don't need enlightenment or salvation to do that, because that is enlightenment and salvation. And if you can't see that, then “enlightenment or salvation will do you no good.

Enlightenment is to wake up to the fundamental reality of our obligation to our people who are suffering and we have the capacity to help them, and we don't. If we don't see this basic duty, then what in the world is there to be enlightened about or saved from? Are we not blind if we can't see the obvious devil before our eyes?

 I am not talking about merely giving money to an organization none of us really know what in the world they are doing with the money (this is of course good to do, and should be commended) but I am talking to us all as a race and trying to convey the reality that whatever we are doing, it is not enough.

These extreme problems I talk about are not the only problems in our globe, the less severe social, economic and health problems certainly should be dealt with by “civilized” people, but the neglect and apathy of the extreme horrors is to me a worldwide or universe wide scandal of apocalyptic proportions. As if other beings in the universe are looking down on us in awe or horror at what we “civilized” caring people are not doing for ourselves. Of course I don't really care what other kinds of beings think about us, we should I believe care about what we think about ourselves and I think that if we contemplate our response to our human or inhuman condition, I think we will come up wanting in judging ourselves.

I am not just laying this at the doorstep of the so-called religious people, but all of us, believers of any stripe, and non-believers, agnostics, whatever, we all must wake up to our basic duty to our fellow human being we are not living up to. We must wake up soon before it is too late.

SO AS AN ORDINARY PERSON I CALL ON ALL BELIEVERS, NON BELIEVERS, LEFT WING, RIGHT WING, ALL RACES, CREEDS, POLITICAL PARTIES AND PEOPLE OF GOOD NATURE AND BAD NATURE TO DEMAND OF THE UN, OUR PARTICULAR GOVERNMENTS, THE RICH, INFLUENTIAL, OUR RELIGIOUS LEADERS, AND WE ORDINARY PEOPLE OR JUST ALL OF US, TO MOVE TO ERADICATE THE PAIN, SUFFERING AND HORRORS THAT OUR UNFORTUNATE PEOPLE ACROSS THIS PLANET UNECCASSARILY LIVE OR DIE THROUGH.

I CALL UPON THE WORLD WIDE SPIRITIAL LEADERS, POLITICAL LEADERS, ECONOMIC INDUSTRIAL LEADERS, THE VERY WEALTHY MEN AND WOMAN OF INFLUENCE, ORDINARY PEOPLE, BELEIVERS IN A HIGHER POWER, OR DISBELIEVERS, WHATEVER, TO COME TOGETHER AND PUT ASIDE ARE DIFFRENCES OF NATIONALITY, CREED, POLITICAL BELIEFS AND TACKLE THESE KNOWN HORRORS NOW, WITHOUT DELAY ON A SCALE OF AN INTERNATIONAL WAR ON THE HORRORS BEING INFLICTED ON OUR PEOPLE THAT HAS BEEN NEGLECTED IN THIS MODERN SCIENTIFIC HIGH-TECH WORLD WHERE MANY OF US LIVE IN A COMFORT UNLIKE ANYTHING THE WORLD HAS EVER KNOWN, BUT YET SIDE BY SIDE, IN DARK DESOLATE PLACES IN ASIA, AFRICA, HAITI, SOUTH AMERICA, EASTERN EUROPE AND EVEN PARTS OF NORTH AMERICA,(THE WEALTHIEST SOCIETY IN HISTORY) DO MILLIONS OF HUMAN BEINGS LIVE IN ABJECT, HORRENDEOUS POVERTY, DISEASE, SLAVERY, SEX SLAVERY, WARS, POLITICAL OPPRESION, GENOCIDAL CONDITIONS, AND WE SUPPOSINGLY THE MOST ADVANCED CIVILIZED SOCIETY IN HISTORY DO NOTHING.

WE SEND OUR BEAUTIFUL YOUNG MEN AND WOMAN OFF TO WARS OF DEATH AND DESTRUCTION TO ADD TO THE GLOBAL GRIEF

WE BICKER ABOUT OUR NATIONAL DIFFERENCES, AND DIFFERENCES IN WHAT WE CALL GOD, OR DON'T CALL GOD, OR WHAT COLOR WE ARE, OR OUR NATIONAL PRIDE.

CAN WE ALL NOT SEE THE OBVIOUS THAT WE ARE ONE RACE…THE HUMAN RACE…AND WHETHER YOU BELIEVE IN A GOD OR NOT…THERE IS SOMETHING…SOMETHING…THAT IS MYSTEIOUS, IN GOD, OR JUST IN NATURE…THAT DEMANDS THAT WE ELIMINATE WITH LOVE, THESE HORRIBLE CONDITIONS OF OUR FELLOW HUMANS.

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SOMEWHERE, RIGHT NOW WHILE YOU ARE READING THIS IN A LONELY DARK CORNER IN A DESOLATE GOD FORESAKEN PLACE WHERE NOBODY HAS EVER HEARD OF, OR NOBODY CARES TO VISIT, A SMALL INOCENT CHILD OR YOUNG ADULT, OR OLD ADULT, ONE OF OUR PRECIOUS FELLOWS CRIES IN DESPERATION FOR HELP; AND NO HELP EVER COMES, BECAUSE WE OF THE WORLD WHO COULD HELP AND DELIVER THAT PERSON FROM DOOM REFUSE TO HELP.

WE SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED!

I think as a race, we are falling

Re: Call of humanity

Your passion for the problem is unmistakable. I hope your beautiful diatribe has some effect. I myself have all but given up on trying to waken the sleepers through Zaadz. I recommend delivering your message to those people you can look in the eyes… every one of them. Then follow it up by showing them what to do.

Here are two for starters:

1) learn to do Worldchanging.

2) make a personal committment to the Millennium Development Goals.

Re: Call of humanity

We will never be great until this is done.

 

At least when the angels ask us: why didn't you try to help? I can say I told these people the obvious. But they were too blind, and selfish to see.

Every forum I have been on I have posted this, and the reaction was as sorry and feeble as this one will be.

I will always try to make people see the obvious.

Thanks for your compassion!

Re: Call of humanity

hi Zakariyya
i just read your heartfelt post and i agree with you 100%
personally, as far as it goes for me, i have no TV no car and even no credit card
i am so poor money-wise that for years each and every year of my life i had to
live on others supporting me and many times b/c of no other alternative i would
pick up  country's green and herbs or starve, yes i have been on the point of
starvation many many times, and you know who i am? i am not a sick raped
girl or enslaved, i am not an invalid and far from handicap, no, i don't answer
to any category you mentioned, i am just an artist.
did you with all your compassion ever wondered what is happening to people
like yourself in this society ? do you remember those who out of the same
affection and compassion shouted this same cry through history ?
remember, and know those you are calling for, they never listen
never
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and if they hear you, you must suggest what they could do, this is my opinion
b/c that what they always answer “what can we do?”

Re: Call of humanity

Dear Zakariyya,

Feel my smile and nod to you. You came to a special community here, so perhaps you'd be interested in what some of us know about this.

Ask yourself, calmly, “why is this happening?” You say - we are doing this. We are inhumane. You are partly right. Most of the people don't know what is going on outsie their borders. Understand, people don't know that bu bying a stereo player they condemn an asian family to slave labour, etc. People don't see this and don't know this. Our minds can easily be blinded. We jump into conclusions. You have just done this, for example. You were very emotional about something you believe is wrong.

Read more into what modern esoterics has to say, and you will realise that it is bad for you to be so negatively emotional about this issue. Emotions and thoughs are energy, are real just like material things around you. You could say that, by being negatively emotional about something, ANYTHING, you are producing an invisible CO2, and polluting the atmosphere with harmful emissions. FAR more harmful than lead or CO2. Please take this seriouosly.

You see? You don't know this because you were not presented with this information before. And if you were, you didn't take it seriously. If you did, why would you use such emotional language and words like “WAR ON SUFFERING”? You are, in fact, in a way doing exactly what most norman consumers do with material things. Consume or produce something, ignorant of the nuances and consequences. We just don't know what we're doing, Zakariyya.

A powerful minority in this world makes sure we don't know or don't pay attention. Through media (and other means) our attention is directed to things that “really matter” - fashion, wars, terrorism, sex, food… We may occasionally hear information that you refer to - exploitation - but it is somewhere in the background and we don't have time to worry about it. We spend time worrying about earning money and keeping our children/spouses satisfied. There is a lot of mind-control going on.

What we (some of us on Zaadz and elsewhere) are doing is searching for information (like that you refer to) and using it realistically. For example, you refer to the UN, to politicians. You say - let's tell them!!! Tell them what? You think they don't know about the pain and the suffering and the exploitation? The UN and our governments are less informed than you are? You must be joking.

Demand, you say? OK. Let's go, you and me, and tell them to stop the wars and stop the exploitation and stop the most-profitable drug business and stop making wealth on the backs of other people. What if they don't? Then what? Will you blow up the White House? The Parliament? So the news say “…religious extremists have infiltrated our very nation, we can't trust anyone now, so the President decided on emergency actions - to place CCTV cameras in every house…”?

I have honestly thought of going into politics, of organising pressure groups, then of going into media and organising independent channels and newspapers… Perhaps people like you should go ahead and try such things. But should everyone who realises the way things are?

If you calmly analyze the situation, you will see that nothing will change unless there is a change in human consciousness, in our very minds. There is a lot of checked evidence on such things in esoterics. As long as most people are fixed in their daily thoughts and emotions on bad things, and on things like sex, entertainment, money, power, etc., they will not care about explitation and injustices of this world. In fact, many of them would SUPPORT this kind of injustices, as we did throughout our history with examples of black slavery, antisemitic holocaust, serfdom, caste system, prostitution, sweat-factories etc. Many people KNOW about this and continue lining their privileged lives, my friend. So what effect will your call for WAR ON INJUSTICE have on such people? None. Did you ever try to preach green living to materialist folk? They laugh you in the face. And for the rest, for those who may potentially be concerned with such matters? They are much more worried about the future of their kids, their own health and well-being, than about “some poor kids in Africa”. Such people also have to survive in the system. In a way, such people are also in a sort of slavery.

So what to do? Preach to them? Interestingly, I thought of becoming a priest, too. But then I found out things about religions that… ehm… made me change my mind.

There is a way, though. And, importantly, this way does not involve negative emotions in any way. This is very important. Even science (eg quantum physics) today knows about the power of mind over matter. We have access to power that is way beyong the materialistic notions of this world. And as far as I know the only way to change anything now is to gain access to and use this power. If I can move pieces of paper on the table with my mind's power, imagine what advanced awakened spiritual people could achieve together. This isn't a joke. It's real.

So, what to do? First, you can act on a purely material level. Use skills in psychology to explain to problem to people around you. Aim for empathetic understanding, and people will begin to ponder about some things. Perhaps they will end up buying less things and being more caring and perceptive in their lives, perhaps they will not vote in elections and give money to charity. That's good. But it won't save the world.

For people to change their perception of things, to have a more open mind, they often need to have some spiritual or very emotionally strong event in their life. Many have that nowadays. Then, they need to notice it as something important, as a lesson to learn, for example. For that, they need information. For example, most people know that if they see a white being with wings, it's either an angel or an LSD overdose. But few know that, if they see their body from aside and feel weird, it is astral projection, and not mental problem of any kind. Many people know that, if it hurts, you put your hand there. But few people know why. If they ponder about this though, they will “stumble” upon very interesting and useful information about energy, their body and soul, the nature of reality, etc. And eventually they will come to the point where their consciousness expands and they realise for themselves that they don't need many of the things they thought they needed, that there is no point in getting sad or angry about many things, that there is a lot of true happiness in love, frienship, in giving, not only getting, and that everyone on this planet is kin, and is worth love and respect, no matter what. If everyone rose to that level of consciousness, this world would transform “magically” without any revolutions or “WARS ON INJUSTICE”.

To assist people in this there are two ways. First, somehow get them to have experiences more intense and more often. This can be done through your own energetic potential. When someone is around a person who is shining with awakened mastery, love, energy, people around such a person tend to have their own spiritual experiences, as well as healing. But if you are not an awakened master, you can still help by learning about the Law of Attraction (LOA) and by learning to control the flow of your thoughts and emotions. It makes a big noticable difference in your life and in your surroundings, including people. In this way you also increase the global awakening potential, meaning the more people develop and raise their consciousness, the easier it is for the rest of the people to do so. One day (quite soon) the “scales” will turn the other way and the consciousness of the remaining population will ascend “automatically”, with the wave of creative energy unleashed by the initially fewer awakened ones.

The second way is to provide people with information about their spiritual experiences. There is a very strong pressure from religions who interpret any “strange” experience as either the act of the Creator or of the demonic entity. The society has psychiatry and mental institutions as another trap for those beginning to awaken. But the more widespread the esoteric information becomes, the more the chances of people interpreting their experiences wisely and henceforth learning how to develop their potential in this. Spreading information without forcing it down people's throats is, in my opinion, the best way.

I am working on both of those, and every day I come across more and more information about loads of different things. But those things will not be in the newspapers and on TV, of course.

So think about it. Good luck to you on your path!

Re: Call of humanity

If you see an evil, there are three levels one could deal with it


1. Stop it, if you are able to
2. Speak against it.
3. Hate it in your heart.

I can only do 2 and 3

Now if I was able to do the first, voted president of the world or something, I would attempt number 1, and in a couple of weeks probably be dead, if I didn’t do it properly.


You don’t understand, this is not emotion, it is truth, and I am obligated by the higher law to post this wherever I go. If by some miracle I reach enough people and cause an effect, then so be it, then I will have done my duty as a human being.

As for esoterics, well I am as esoteric as the next mystic, read my blog, but nevertheless I tell you by the higher law, which by the way is the esoteric law, I HAVE TO DO THIS POST. It is not emotion, or dreaming.

Re: Call of humanity

“3. Hate it in your heart.”

You've put nice quotes in your profile. Tell me… Did you ever come across anyone spiritual saying “hate thy enemy”?

You say it's not an emotion, yet you say you hate the evil you see. Hatred IS an emotion, dear Zakariyya. This emotion can thrust you forward… But it's a destructive emotion.

Tell me, can you fight evil with evil? Can you fight fire with fire?

Please identify the evil that you see. Carefully. What is it, where does it come from, what it feeds on, what forms does it have, what does it do, etc. At least “know thy enemy” applies. I posted about this above, you may want to save that post and re-read it some time later.

I also said, that you don't need to be the president of the world to “stop it”. You can stop it now, here, in yourself and those close to you. The first thing is, stop hating. What do you hate anyway? What do you hate? Me? My brother? My sister? The President? Mr Rich Man? The Queen? Whom and what do you hate?

You are fuming with frustration. In aikido in taichichuan you'd be caught off guard and on the ground in a split of a second in this state. Such emotions make you lose you awareness, lose your control. You become vulnerable. My words are sincere and friendly advice, Zakariyya.

I am not telling you to stop posting. By all means, do. And continue your search - you will find a lot of interesting things on your path. If you think I was criticising you in my post - I wasn't! I was sharing my experience and giving whatever advice I can.

It is VERY important to learn to be practical, to consider the details, the points of view of other people, to have an open mind. This is tremendously useful in life. So let me ask you, now that you've mentioned it… What would you do if you were a president of the world?

And what is the higher law you refer to?

Regards,
Zet

Re: Call of humanity

Hate

“Hating” something does not have to be the  emotional “hate” like you hate an enemy who has just destroyed your home.

One would certainly hate a hurricane tearing their house down, wouldn't they?

That doesn't mean we go around fuming against hurricanes.

I don't mean hate that way. I mean having an aversion toward something, like  poverty, war, disease. I don't go around fuming and attacking people I don't like.

“Hating” in the heart  I just as well as could use the word aversion.

The heart is very important because the heart rules in a sense, because it is the fountain of desires and ultimately desires are what manifest in the world of the kingdom.

If we all hate poverty, disease, war, destruction eventually it will go away.

When Jesus said: feed the poor that was also saying: Hate poverty, because people suffer in poverty.

Should we not hate suffering. Are we too involved with semantics. If you would prefer I will use the word or words “have an aversion towards.

Is that better?

Certainly, Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad, Moses, All taught to have an aversion towards these horrible things. They didn't teach absolute stoicism. They taught active practice and ridding the world of negativity, oppression, injustice, ignorance, poverty, war, etc..

I never attacked one group in my essay, in fact I was clear that we shouldn't blame anyone particular group. We don't need recrimination and blame, we need the reshuffling of our priorities, in putting the caring for  people first. Then we will stop these problems, and then deal with getting to the root of them at the same time.

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Now what we need to examine is the fact that every time I post this, I get flack.

That is the interesting phenomena, and it is that that needs to be examined.

Why do people object to this post:

They think it is pie in the sky thinking.

I should concentrate on my own self

Evil like poverty, disease, war,  has always been here

These are the kind of objections people raise when I post this, and don't you see that is part of the problem!

On a Buddhist forum, they wanted to shoot me, when I posted this. Those Buddhist were so cynical, and use to the world being the way it is that they couldn't conceive of any change, or the attempt to change the world.

But they were wrong. It has to start somewhere.

I understand that as we do this we should simultaneously have an inward transformation, in other words this should go hand in hand, based on the Buddhist principle. Don't only do good, become good.

People always try to put me on the chopping block, to examine me, NOT THE ISSUES I RAISE. Is that not a cop out?

Another excuse for human beings to neglect their duty.

If one can't see the devil before our eyes then it may be that

They have a problem seeing.

The higher law is the law that goes beyond appearances and deals with the essence, and spirit of reality.

For example, this issue ultimately is not about good and evil, it is about suffering, and what leads to it.

“Good” as well as “evil” can cause suffering. The higher law understands the relativity of good and evil, for example:

The torrential rain in the south has brought destruction to the Indians. But on the other hand has  brought prosperity to the settlers in the north.

Now how do we define good and evil by this example? We can't, because good and evil are not absolute, they are relative to time and place, and other variables.

Suffering is what we want to eliminate, and we can't do that by eliminating rain. But what we can do is have institutions and the desire to assist the Indians in the south that got devastated by the rain. We could in fact correlate my parable to Katrina.

The contractors are getting rich of Katrina, but the people have suffered immensely, and if we had a system that really helped poor people we could have eliminated much of their suffering.

But no. We had our resources in Iraq. Bush didn't have the government ready to help poor black people in Katrina, because he had hired his campaign contributors to run FEMA rather than qualified people.

So that is what is meant by the higher law. The higher law aims at what the relative laws want to get at but sometimes cant, for whatever reason. That law deals with roots, and essences, the things behind the relative law.  Now that shouldn't and can't be dealt with but by the most wise.

To get an excellent example of what the higher law is as opposed to the relative lower law read in the Koran the allegory of Moses and Khidr. Chap 18  v60 to 82

Khidr is some kind of Angel. Moses asked to hang out with him so he could see and learn. Khidr said he couldn't handle what he does. Moses said please let me hang out.

Khidr said okay. But don't question what I do.

Basically Khidr started doing all kinds of what the world would consider negative stuff. Putting holes in boats, killing people. Doing work and not accepting money for it. Moses went crazy, and said ” what in the world are you doing” Khidr said ” see I told you, you couldn't handle what I do. Moses Apologized and they went on. Finally Khidr explained to Moses that everything  that superficially appeared to be a negative act, was in fact a positive act that started all kinds of positive stuff in the long run.

Read it for yourself, I really can't give proper justice to the allegory.

Koran chapter 18 verses 60 to 82

Remember this is an allegory, don't take it literally. Look for the meaning behind the story.

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 Behold, Moses said to his attendant, “I will not give up until I reach the junction of the two seas or (until) I spend years and years in travel.”

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But when they reached the Junction, they forgot (about) their Fish, which took its course through the sea (straight) as in a tunnel.

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: When they had passed on (some distance), Moses said to his attendant: “Bring us our early meal; truly we have suffered much fatigue at this (stage of) our journey.”

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He replied: “Sawest thou (what happened) when we betook ourselves to the rock? I did indeed forget (about) the Fish: none but Satan made me forget to tell (you) about it: it took its course through the sea in a marvellous way!”

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Moses said: “That was what we were seeking after:” So they went back on their footsteps, following (the path they had come).

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So they found one of Our servants, on whom We had bestowed Mercy from Ourselves and whom We had taught knowledge from Our own Presence.

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Moses said to him: “May I follow thee, on the footing that thou teach me something of the (Higher) Truth which thou hast been taught?”
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 (The other) said: “Verily thou wilt not be able to have patience with me!”

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“And how canst thou have patience about things about which thy understanding is not complete?”

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: Moses said: “Thou wilt find me, if Allah so will, (truly) patient: nor shall I disobey thee in aught.”
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The other said: “If then thou wouldst follow me, ask me no questions about anything until I myself speak to thee concerning it.”

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 So they both proceeded: until, when they were in the boat, he scuttled it. Said Moses: “Hast thou scuttled it in order to drown those in it? Truly a strange thing hast thou done!”

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 He answered: “Did I not tell thee that thou canst have no patience with me?”

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 Moses said: “Rebuke me not for forgetting, nor grieve me by raising difficulties in my case.”

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Then they proceeded: until, when they met a young man, he slew him. Moses said: “Hast thou slain an innocent person who had slain none? Truly a foul (unheard of) thing hast thou done!”

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He answered: “Did I not tell thee that thou canst have no patience with me?”

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(Moses) said: “If ever I ask thee about anything after this, keep me not in thy company: then wouldst thou have received (full) excuse from my side.”

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 Then they proceeded: until, when they came to the inhabitants of a town, they asked them for food, but they refused them hospitality. They found there a wall on the point of falling down, but he set it up straight. (Moses) said: “If thou hadst wished, surely thou couldst have exacted some recompense for it!”

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 He answered: “This is the parting between me and thee: now will I tell thee the interpretation of (those things) over which thou wast unable to hold patience.

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 “As for the boat, it belonged to certain men in dire want: they plied on the water: I but wished to render it unserviceable, for there was after them a certain king who seized on every boat by force.

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As for the youth, his parents were people of Faith, and we feared that he would grieve them by obstinate rebellion and ingratitude (to Allah and man).

Re: Call of humanity

Dear Zetwhite

Amazing & Beautiful

I just couldnt have put it better than you. It was like me speaking to myself, if the writer inside me was so creative and patient :)

SIMPLE and ONLY solution is raise of consciousness. There could be infinite ways of helping our fellow beings to reach higher levels, depending on our creativity.

Zakarriya I think you dont get what Zetwhite says. I cant explain better. you can definitely do what you believe correct. I will just say - it has always been, it is right now and it will always be 4 letter beautiful word - LOVE - which will light up any darkness in world

Re: Call of humanity

  To Zet and his cheering section:

Another thing you don't realize is that I am very objective and unemotional about this. If my children were in Africa starving then I would be emotionally involved. The problem with your response is that you are ASSUMING to much, without knowing anything about me. You are using psychoanalytical  platitudes you are applying to me, without knowledge, and not one objective point did you address in my essay. You just WANT TO PSYCHOANALYZE ME! Now what that does is bring as much light on your avoidance of the issues I raise as shed light on me. WHY DO YOU AVOID WHAT I SAY IN THE ESSAY?

You avoid these issues by subtly attacking ME. AS some insane HATER although YOU CANT IDENTIFY ANY HATRED IN MY ESSAY, CAN YOU? I CHALLENGE YOU TO DO THAT?

As for love. My essay is FILLED WITH LOVE. Love for those denied good. The poor, the sick, the despised, ALL ISSUES CERTAIN PEOPLE ALLWAYS WANT TO AVOID! They don't have computers, TV sets, and warm, air-conditioned homes like us.

Not emotional puppy love that does nothing for anyone. We need to learn to love others than ourselves, THEN WE WONT PUT UP PHONY ISSUES TO AVOID THE THINGS THAT ARE RELEVANT AND IMPORTANT.

Oh forgive me. I didn't answer your query about what I would do if I were president of the world.

Well I posted earlier what I would do, didn't I. And I think I said I would last 2 weeks.

So what does that say. That supports your argument supposedly that it is a lost cause.

Of course it does, that's why we need more essays like mine, not less.

I rest my case

Re: Call of humanity

As I would wonder.
what makes you think,
You do not have any problems?
And that what help you might bestow,
is as effective as can be?

As billions of people need help, actually, probably all people need help. Or could use some
But that is not how to live your life!

You need to grow, become an adult, learn how to work for yourself, and solve your problems yourself. And In time they will manage.

Because you see,
solving your own problems, will solve others aswell.

Torture, happens because of mighty people wage wars, or others want more land then is good for them. Try and solve your own wars first, and I can assure you, there will be less people tortured.

Yes people starve, and In America People die of obesity. Irony? no fact. Actually, if ever American would eat, as much as they need, and not just throw away food. It would be more then enough to feed all of Afrika…

People work, yeah, and you know, many people can't work, because they have a burn out. and because of this 'Burn out' they sit at home at a stool. Because else they can't make it through the day. Most of these people do less then most working people, before and after. How can you say ou burned out? If you have solved all your own problems? Well sitting in front of the Telly won't solve them.

Screwed to death? how aptly isn't it? That a people that screw only after marriage don't understand that some people, many millions of people choose to do it voluntarily. Sure, Women and children get raped. But so do your own children. How many women do I not know, I didn't like their various partners, because they were mentally forced into sex?
I am not someone who will judge what is worse, mental murder or physical murder.

But solve your own problems, before you solve others.

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I answered all your points in my previous post. Look particularly to the “post” section.

For you to divorce the worlds problems from us is strange.

If one of those African kids starving were your kids, would that be a part of your problems.

Also why cant I solve my problems and attempt to help others at the same time?

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… I understand you have had negative responses to this particular message before. Nothing's wrong with the message. It's the way you deliver it…

Thank you for explaining what you refer to as the higher law - I am familiar with the concept and I endorse it. And I think I now understand what you mean by “hate”. Perhaps I misunderstood your mood, because using capital letters online often means raised voice or shouting, and you use those a lot. Perhaps you would consider using bold type or underlining for things you want to highlight, not “shout” out, henceforth. It may be more effective in online communication.

You have also jumped into conclusions then, about me trying to psychoanalyse you, to attack you, and to label you as an insane hater. I guess I can challenge you to find that in my posts to you… But is that necessary? Did you come here to hear what others have to say as well as to say something yourself? If not, so be it, your information was interesting but not unknown to me personally.

If you do want to hear others out, please re-read the posts to you here assuming that they were completely positive and lacked any hidden attempt to criticise or psychoanalyse you in any way.

Has your posting of this message been successful till now? Have you had the responses you were looking for? In any case, forget the past. Forget the Buddhists, the Christians, and anyone whom you talked with about this before. I am not attacking you or your call of humanity.

Now, here I am, interested and inspired. I am eager to help you.

What do you want me to do?

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“Has your posting of this message been successful till now? Have you had the responses you were looking for? In any case, forget the past. Forget the Buddhists, the Christians, and anyone whom you talked with about this before. I am not attacking you or your call of humanity.”

I don't know if it was successful or not. We don't realize who reads these things.

But I feel obligated to post it.

I always challenge people to the best

I always will

Anyway my friend Zet,

I can out debate anybody in the universe. That is not my interest.

My interest is everything I said in the essay. It wasn't to one person but the soul of

Humanity.

My delivery sure is to make people feel guilty at the same time almost FEAR my passion as if they don't get off their asses and do something they will get burned!

I admit that is there, but it is a tactic, a tactic to wake people up. I am not really that tough.

For you, me, and everybody else, because it may be soon that we who are better off than others, will be on the other side of the fence.

I don't know why people cant believe I just want to relieve suffering. It's based on compassion and empathy, not displaced neuroses. That doesn't mean I am one dimensional like some one said here  (not you) ” I should take care of my own problems”

That's called selfishness my friend

Cool out Zet , keep your powder dry, you have a good heart, I am not worried about you.

If you were president of the world I am sure it would be a much better place, and I wouldn't have to do diatribes like that.

Only love

Zak

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Hehe :)

Love an light to you, Zak. ;) I must say, my tactics are different - I don't think it's a particularly good thing to make people guilty about stuff. I mean, guilt has been used on us for a long time, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't… But it always leaves this… Residue, you know. I'd rather use something without such “side-effects”. From strictly my experience, when one gets people guilty and defensive about some issue, they tend to, you know, fight back and defend their ground. It may be a totally wrong ground they're defending, but unfortunately, because they are made to defend it, their belief in this ground actually strengthens. So I stopped using guilt as a “motivating force”. Naturally, I'd advise you to think this over, too, but hey - it's up to your experience. ;)

Being a president is hell-hard mind job, by the way. If one is to do it properly, it's a huge sacrifice, cause there are just soo much to do…

Oh well, thanks for throwing in your motivating post!
Good luck, have fun!

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Great topic and reply posts.
So passionate Zak,in your plea.

I am mainly in agreement with you -and while i too have been
through many stages of pleaing on behalf of the good-
and crying and sad and angry and mad!
 I have come to the conclusion we must indeed be warriors
for peace and good.
There is only one way to help that little girl/boy,curled up in
the corner,being raped or beaten.
And it is NOT by pleaing to the perpurtraters to stop-never
do it again and become a good person,,,,,,,,,,,
it is by stopping that person/people from EVER being able to hurt
anyone again AND to stop that from ever breeding anymore bad
seeds into genetic play again.

The only way we can win is to start again,without the evil-
I hope somone can convince me otherwise-
sort of a call FOR Humanity,I suppose -those that do lot listen
come to point when they truly MUST be in-humane-not to feel
the pain of other human beings-
it is NOT a natural state of our humanity,is it?

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Sandy, it's not a natural thing for a human. It is very likely that our gene have been modified, and the lowest of our “deeds” actually are not inherently “human”. But no human is hopelessly lost, that is for sure.

It's a difficult perid on Earth now. You feel right - we need to “start again”. And we will, but for that a lot of “bad” things have to happen. I believe bad beople will not be able to stay bad or to breed more bad people if the whole energy vibrations of this planet are transformed to higher levels. There is evidence, particularily from channelling, that a lot of work is done by human and “higher” beings in this direction. We need to keep spreading love and awareness, and soon will reach the “point of no return”, as in no return back down, to suffering and inhumanity.

Namaste!

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That makes sense,Zet
I guess our genes have been modified-and
maybe the foods we eat have contributed to that?

I shall do my best to believe in the stronger/good
humans being able to help raise the concious power
in those that have reached lower depths-
in a peaceful way.
For what is war but one power/people trying to
force peace on another.
Violence breeds violence,sadly.
How stupid we are not being able to find peaceful ways
to stop it?

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I appreciate everyone here for their concerns and good intentions.

Along with that i dont understand how you use the term 'warrior of peace'. I cant comprehend how war and peace go together in your dictionary.

Zak - if you relax for a minute and be open, you will see loads of judgements you are making. To help the world, we have to first help ourself. Thats not selfish - if you are filled will so much negativity/hate/tension/any negative stuff, you have drained all your energy in doing anything good for humanity and planet.

Its not just good intention - its about how u focus and act on those intentions. You dont need to keep thinking and shouting about all the problems. this will just add to the problems, even though u might believe otherwise.

And not commenting on problems you list down doesnt mean others are not aware of it. The only difference is we accept it and focus ONLY on what needs to be done. 'Acceptance is not apathy'.

And as Zet puts politely.. I will SHOUT and say.. its ONLY by spreading love and raising consciousness, all your listed problems will automatically disappear. If 50 % population reaches high loving vibrations with knowledge and practice, other 50% will automatically reach (these are just my numbers)

Choice is yours - focus on problems or focus on spreading love. I will not comment further

Love

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Why you bother yourself with all that?I am a man  and  so do you.God is God  so can  you.The difference is how hard you are trying.Aplying everything you are about.Between you and Him.Hope  you have a great day.Namaste.



                                   Blessings,
                                         R.S.

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“Choice is yours - focus on problems or focus on spreading love.”

Not or - and. :)