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   Meenakshi : Connection

Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Meenakshi said Jun 6, 2008, 6:50 AM:

 

A few observations from my experience of healing

  1. To have right relationship, we need to connect to other people, within the framework of a larger whole. So, e.g., I know that all my friends and I together are part of a larger whole of the Gaia community; that each friend has their own network and is not ONLY my friend and so on. In the same way, I know that each family member, and relative, though connected to me, is not ONLY connected to me.  So, to have right relationship: “connect, don't attach” used to be my email signature reminder!
  1. However, due to a feeling of incompleteness or loneliness or lack of self awareness, we  all develop grappling hooks connected to cords, all ready to attach to anyone that we are attracted to.http://www.tikirobot.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/hook.jpg If the other person has an energy field of lack, or need or desire to attach; or even a loop/eye that a hook can attach to: voila! It’s a match! This can help for the time that we need the attachments: to a spouse, a team member, a child; a teacher; a job; a student; which is why these attachments are so valued in many societieswww.kent.ac.uk/careers/pics/mountainclimber.jpg
  2. Over a length of time, these chords can prevent the growth of each person. This is when they start to become unhealthy. There is toxic energy build-up, lack of flow and so on.
  3. When we become aware of this, we can choose to remove the hook. It is important to realize that by doing so, we are NOT severing the relationship; we are actually rescuing it, making it more healthy. Something like letting a kite go by letting the chord go.  Or cutting the chord so that each mountain climber can climb on their own.  
  4. However, it is not easy to let go of chords/hooks, as there can be a sudden feeling of loss of balance, loss of ownership and so on. That is why, we need to do this in sacred space, with the support of our higher, more expanded self, guides and so on. The good part is, it CAN be done just by one person; it does NOT need both people to do this. However, we can ask the other person’s higher self to co-operate.

I personally do NOT believe in cutting chords. This keeps the hooks in place, and they can re-attach. I prefer to remove the hooks, and heal any wound that you feel at that time. And believe me, you can feel that wound in a very real, physical way! This is therefore not an exercise to be undertaken without preparation.

The best preparation is to first fill oneself with pink-green light; or white light; or loving light, or unconditional love. Whichever helps. This immediately brings us into an expanded state.

I usually hold space for people if they ask me to, while doing this ceremony. I can also write you a meditation if  you like. Otherwise, there are many available online. E.g. Severing Emotional Ties-Cut the cords and take back your energy-by Maryam Henein

[Cross-posted from the 50*-stars pod]

  Karin Maree : Dragonfly

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Karin Maree said Jun 14, 2008, 12:19 AM:

 

I missed this post…
Thanks Meenakshi, I wish I had known about this a few years ago. I found the cutting of the cord ceremony really helpful, but I also found with some people I just had to keep doing it from time to time, it was not permanent. Now I understand more fully why that happened.
This is far better.
Gives new meaning to the saying 'get their hooks into you' , or perhaps that saying comes from some old wisdom.

  Sol : Spiritual Nudist

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Sol said Jun 21, 2008, 12:49 PM:

 

Yep, this resonates..Great post..

I work with these things on a daily basis ..We get hooked easily that is for sure..Right now I am at a point in my life where I feel very easily when I loose the flow, even the minor stuff, and my energy is hooked on something or someone..Mediation and emotional release, and not to mention, yoga, does it for me when I need something more than to just shake things off..I work a lot in the details, and just today, I was with a friend who was stressed out, and we had our kids there together with us all day, you know, a lot of activity..And for me, holding the earthenergy while being with her, released a lot of tension that I have normally been drawn into easily..I have noticed her energy always took me out of my center, she is a wild thing, let me tell you, (I love her to bits offcourse) and she depletes herself, and others with this, and today, the energy changed..It is great..Depletion is weary, that is what hooks does to us, they deplete us..I will check  out the links that u posted..Sounds interesting..

  Azyh : Gratitude in Action

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Azyh said Aug 23, 2008, 9:03 PM:

 

I have always had an intuitive knowing of cords, and worked with energy cords in a way that is similar to brushing hair. Undoing the knots, freeing the flow of energy.

My daughter also works intuitively with cords and she talks about how she loosens them, blesses them and sends them back. I found it very effective when she worked on a tight muscle in my leg.

It is interesting to be reminded of hooks and loops in this way. I know I have read about them in the past, regarding cutting ties and such. It's been a while since these things have been in my mind. So I am finding it interesting to revisit this thought stream and see it's connections to where my mind is at right now.

I have been thinking about the use of conversations into healing, and how the interaction of opening up to new perspectives mentally flows onto new physical states.

So now I am thinking about velcro and how it's peeling away needs more force then it's sticking together.

The energy to confront and courage to peel oneself away from what was so easy to stick to brings me a new understanding and compassion for the ones that stay stuck and new awe for the ones that peel away.

Does one then simply smooth out the 'hooks' and 'loops' in ones thinking? Or simply give ones self a new magnetic field so that one easily sticks to the states that support growth?

 With this peeling idea I have been thinking about exoskeletons of insects and snake skins, are the illusions we wrap ourselves in so easily peeled away and climbed out of? Do our old hooks and loops stay part of the old skin/ skeleton, leaving us with newly energized / magnetized hooks and loops to help us with the next level our journey?

Thank you for this conversation and the thoughts it provoked for me.

 

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Meenakshi said Aug 24, 2008, 7:05 AM:

 

Azyh, I read this post when it was first posted, but as I was about to go to sleep then, did not respond. Having re-read it, I can vouch for the sense of wonder at the new directions you are showing in your post.

The image of daily smoothing out hooks and cords is so inviting. If we have it as intent, it will happen. Specially as hair holds memories. This  is such a wonderful technique, something to do daily to keep one clear. I am going to add it to my list of daily ablutions:

  • “Have you brushed your teeth, brushed your hair and energy cords?
  • Have you grounded, centered, done the light breath? ”
I like it! It will prevent hooks from getting a tighter hold, and being brushed away before they drain energy on both sides.

The velcro and exoskeleton symbology is working its way through me…let's see if something else comes up about it.

Thank you so much for joining with your incredible insights.

  Azyh : Gratitude in Action

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Azyh said Aug 25, 2008, 4:52 AM:

 

Thank you Meenakshi :)

I have been thinking more on this and I wonder, what makes a hook and a loop?
is it attachments or beliefs

are they always negative, unsupportive or damaging?

i love the challenge of untangling knots
and finding things
These have always been a strength for me.

applying these strengths to my physical and energetic levels of understanding
is a new focus I am working with (focusing on strength is new for me on this journey)

 I wonder how can one use hooks and loops to enhance ones strengths and support ones growth?

Can hooks and loops be worked with gratitude, consent and highest intentions?
Here I am seeing decorative rugs and patterned fabrics.
Collaborative works of art

does one then simply become aware of ones hooks and loops
and shall one then seek permission and consent
clean up the strays, make amends for unwanted interactions
clear up misunderstandings and forgive
and set intentions on what one chooses for ones own loops and hooks
set them onto intentions of giving and receiving?
set them onto weaving and creating ones interactions with all

then perhaps the end day will be a rejoicing for the art created
and the beginning of the day an openness to what will become

tangles may still need untangling
smoothing out
is such a beautiful image
it is mindful
and I love mindful

thank you

  ~KES : Communicator

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

~KES said Aug 30, 2008, 10:06 PM:

 

Thanks Azyh for the great post.  I didn't understand how it was applied at first but really went for a dive deeper into and found a dictionary of knots

so you have opened new doors to me to putting order into any confusion.

I could see applying the hook and loop and knots to measure things we are all working on individually as a way of reward for finishing something and mid knot while working on something.  I would love seeing a picture that you choose of these as pictures help me to learn faster.

Peace,
Kathy

  Azyh : Gratitude in Action

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Azyh said Aug 30, 2008, 11:45 PM:

 

Greetings Kes and All reading,

I did go off in my own world and forgot to explain myself. Been a while since I last let my mind wander out loud.

I think of energy cords like threads of hair throughout the body.

I think of loops and hooks as connectors where we allow ourselves (consciously or unconsciously) to connect to others.

Do we continue to cut these connections or accept them? Do they exist at all?
Are they cutable or retractable anyway?

And with the connectors - hooks and loops. Can we consciously place loops in places where they are most supportive and appropriate and do this purposefully so as to attract or invite a hook?

I had the thought that the current picture is much like a tangle of cords with accidental loops in inappropriate places and the attracting hooks appear to be uninvited.

I wanted to change this image to a more purposeful placement and “smoothing out”. Allow the arrangement an artistic flow where one notices the tangles and accidental loops and smoothes these out and creates loops to invite hooks for purposes and intentions that support the creation of ones life.

Then thinking of threads, loops and hooks I thought of fabrics, tapestrys and weaving. They can be amazing creations. And so can our lives.

 
   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Meenakshi said Sep 2, 2008, 7:15 PM:

 

I was thinking about this today, and realized that the key reason to stay away from cords and hooks, is that attachment is not connection.

We cannot attain something if we're attached to it…we can't even see the person/thing we're attached/hooked to. We have no energy left from trying to hold on to them…to actually celebrate them.


And just as I was feeling lazy about writing this down, I read this blog of Alan's- To all the people who kill what they love…

Take a look there too…and Azyh, please keep writing as you're getting my brain cells energized!

  Azyh : Gratitude in Action

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Azyh said Sep 4, 2008, 1:38 AM:

 

Oh Meenakshi I am loving your words :)

I think about this and what come up for me is that connections can morph into attachments and attachments can morph into connections

a connection being a space of mutual giving and receiving, like catching and throwing a ball

an attachment being a space of holding and throwing, like keeping all the balls to self or throwing them at people unaware of the game

Intentional connections will then look like a mutual interaction between others
Where participants acknowledge the exchange of the ball

Attachments look more like a hogging of the ball and unexpected throws of the ball. There is no mutual interaction and no satisfying exchange.

Morphing into either one is where the participants change the way they acknowledge the exchange. (between a mutual or uninvited exchange)

This helps me in a way to better understand the process of invitations/ beginnings and endings. It is important to intentionally invite and end ones interactions with others. A smooth and clear exchange of expectations and experience.

!!! this is so cool to think about this right now! thank you for these wonderful thoughts tonight, I very much needed to think this out loud :)

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Meenakshi said Sep 4, 2008, 7:58 PM:

 

Without getting attached to this discussion, I”m enjoying passing the

back and forth!

I often use ball games as a metaphor for describing life; and am enjoying the way you use one to describe attachment -connection.

I didn't think about how each can morph into the other; but yes, of course, as we float up and down and sideways among expanding and contracting dimensions, we can move from detachment to attachment to connection….

Thank you for this perspective, Azyh.

  Alan :  Life to life.

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Alan said Sep 4, 2008, 9:01 PM:

 

Hi all,

Yes, attachment, and the disconnection from what we become attached to that is in a big way completely inevitable, has been on my mind recently. 

It seems to me the root is the ways in which our own perceptions color our perceptions… I know that seems circular in terms of logic, but

how often do we, as people, decide the way we see things are the way they are??

If the way I see something (a) equals the way things are (b)  than I can go around acting simply on my worldview as if it is reality. 

but if I am assuming that a=b, and I'm wrong…

all I'm responding to is my own perception. 

Perhaps what we really become attached to as human beings is our worldviews?

and isn't it a tricky thing to live life as if a does not necessarily equal b?

Perhaps the more we need our perceptions to be equal to reality, the more attached we are… perhaps attachment is simply the need for the world to be static and the same as our understanding, of any given thing or issue.  Perhaps the continued 'ownership' of the attached is also conformation, for the person attached, that the world is safe, secure, and just the way they thought. 

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Meenakshi said Sep 5, 2008, 5:32 AM:

 

Alan, I enjoyed reading the perspective of connection-attachment at the level of thought.

Let's see where this leads….

  willowinthewind : listening

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

willowinthewind said Sep 5, 2008, 2:45 PM:

 

Dearest Friends,


This discussion is so enlivening!  The concepts of cords, hooks, attachments are ones I'm always turning upside-around, trying to find a way through the maze, figure out what's what and why. 


I love this conversation!  Reminding me to “connect, not attach,” prevent toxic energy build-up, lack of flow, energy zapping caused by cords with hooks thrown out by those feeling incompleteness, loneliness, lack of self awareness.  So daily, we should smooth out our hooks and cords, in order to stay clear centered grounded, neither to throw nor catch hooks.  (Wow!)  Stay unattached.  Free flowing.  Expanding. 


But, yes, as you say, connection is very good. It's how interaction between/among us opens up new perspectives mentally, perspectives that can flow into new physical states and can heal, return to the physical normal.  So we could give/intend ourselves new magnetic fields (yessss! JOY!) to attract and support the “good” cords of connection.  Enhance our strengths and support our growth - a collaborative work of art!  A beautiful decorative rug or patterned fabric of US, is that not gorgeous?! Created by intentionally thinking calling into play the sweet eternal giving-and-receiving: the healthy divine relationship of oneness.


I just have to turn to nature!  I think of those phenomenal sightings of schooling whirling fish, moving as one.  Or an entire enormous flock of small birds, just before evening, soaring suddenly diving and zooming, expanding, contracting, and moving perfectly as One.  Hundreds of joyous little wings, in this perfect instantaneous choreography of the Now.  I watch, transfixed, jaw dropped, feeling the most indescribable sense of joy from these little birds.


That's the morphic field, they tell me.  Connection.  Communication.  How the little birds are so connected that they can soar and zoom as one.  Us too, of course!  We can create this gorgeous movement of intention.  Indeed, researchers propose that morphic fields link members of social groups and can continue to connect them even when they are far apart.  Sort of invisible bonds that act as channels for telepathic communications between animals and animals, people and animals, and people and people.  Experiments to test for spatial aspects of morphic fields imply a kind of nonlocality currently not recognized by institutional science.  Quantum entanglement, they call it.


I cannot really wrap my mind around this.  I can not keep on trying!  These ideas that all of you are talking about are amazingly resonant, delicious, compelling, attractive, promising. 


What a good and wondrous universe this is in which we live!  How deeply appreciative I am to have connected with you.


Deep bows.  Peace.  And Love,

Jeannie
   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Meenakshi said Sep 5, 2008, 4:39 PM:

 

Jeannie [willowinthewind]: “I just have to turn to nature!  I think of those phenomenal sightings of schooling whirling fish, moving as one.  Or an entire enormous flock of small birds, just before evening, soaring suddenly diving and zooming, expanding, contracting, and moving perfectly as One.  Hundreds of joyous little wings, in this perfect instantaneous choreography of the Now.  I watch, transfixed, jaw dropped, feeling the most indescribable sense of joy from these little birds.”


Something that I love to see too–and feel that invisible connection among birds;
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en-commons/thumb/c/cf/200px-Formation_flight.jpg

No doubt we humans have it too; but it is more complex and probably multi-layered. Not homogenous.

I feel that when we access the healing level; which is the level / dimension / reality of wholeness, that connection becomes palpable, very real; and it is impossible to attach because why hold someone's hand when you could embrace them more fully?

  joonbug : Gaia Child

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

joonbug said Sep 5, 2008, 9:12 PM:

 

I am new to the concept of hooks and cords when discussing attachments/connections.  I guess not the idea of them so much as this paradigm to explain them.  I've always thought of them more in terms of soap bubbles :O)  But I rather like this way of looking at it.  There is much more room for elaboration and sophistication.  Thank you so much for this wonderful topic to wrap my mind around.

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Meenakshi said Sep 6, 2008, 4:48 AM:

 

Joonbug, as you wrap your mind around this idea, allow yourself to flow with it.  Take it lightly!

The metaphor of hooks and cords is meant to lead us into the flow of energy that surrounds attachment as it lightens to connection [and beyond, which we're not yet touching upon here].

Perhaps not so much a paradigm to be hooked on to [pun intended], but a reminder of something we know at a deeper level?

  Karin Maree : Dragonfly

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Karin Maree said Sep 7, 2008, 11:50 PM:

 

 

I've been reading this thread with interest for the past week or so.

For me the notion of hooks and attachments is a very real and personal one. I had a series of encounters with not so nice men in my childhood, then a series of not so great relationships as an adult. Several of my encounters put me in life threatening situations and the last relationship was the most toxic of them all, leaving me traumatized and in poor health. During the process of trying to heal my past, I began to look at the patterns and the causes. I believe what happened for me was, the hooks where there from my childhood and then I attracted people that would attach to those hooks. They sought me out in fact….it was like I had a tattoo on my forehead…..pick me! Abuse me!

Now Azyh put forward a really good point, she asked are all attachments bad? Certainly the pattern I was in was pretty bad, for my health and survival. But as I look back at my life, I see how I have grown and what I have learned. Would I choose those experiences if I had the choice…NO!

When this post was first written, we had been discussing toxic relationships. I had said that I cut the cords and had found cutting the cords very useful. I had recognized that keeping the energetic connection to my abuser, was not letting me move forward and I was having nightmares and re-living the trauma. As Willow put it, I was involved in quantum entanglements.

Meenakshi pointed out to me that cutting the ties or the cords was not enough and she was right. Cut the cord and the hook remains and another person will seek you out and attach. Leave the cord attached and that relationship remains ‘active'. I didn't realize at the time, but I had been working on the hooks at a different level, not on the energetic level. So now I am approaching it from two angles, energetically disconnecting and spiritually seeking answers as to why I had the hooks in the first place.

I suppose my question is…Is it that simple? Could I have saved years of work by just smoothing the hooks energetically? Or would they return also, had I not done all of the spiritual work?

Just something I have been wondering….thought I would put it out there to those following this thread.

Could I have avoided all of the problems and pain caused by these toxic relationships if I had smoothed off the hooks earlier in my life? Did I have to go through it all so I could see them in the first place? Was it all a part of the process of my life and the lessons I needed to learn in order to grow as a spiritual being?

  Azyh : Gratitude in Action

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Azyh said Sep 8, 2008, 6:30 AM:

 

Greetings All,

 I was seeing loops, as the places where hooks link in.
So working on hooks is good, working on loops is better.

When I saw this I applied it to myself and all my spaces in my life (home, work, relationships).  I said to myself, “where am i inviting hooks?” (with or without my intention or awareness) “where are my loops?” “when did I learn to put loops there?” “where do i feel most comfortable moving/ placing (removing) my loops?”

I got a vision of a mass of loops in different parts of my body. And I said OK lets move these out, so I had all my loops as an outline around my body. I did this for my work space, home space and my relationships. (moving all the loops to become outlines, instead of a mass of mess within)

Some thing changed for me, and I don't know how to explain it because I am still in these changes. All I know is that hooks don't come to me uninvited any more.

It's like I learned to put up a go stop sign (energetically) and instead of being wide open to hooks from out of the blue, I find there is a mutual understanding with the universe that I am only interested in intentional supportive connections. (my daily by minute mantra is I am loving experiences and loving outcomes)

After my last post above, I realized that intentional beginnings and endings are my responsibility. I choose to own the connection, I choose to invite it and I choose to end it. (this has not been the case for most of my life, where it seemed to be random and outside of my ability to choose)

Once I had this understanding I text my ex husband and said it is time to finish this and time to get the divorce. I have said this to him for the last 6 months, but finally my words had intentional connection to make an ending that has been hanging over me as a loose thread. I got a positive instant response from him and the process is finally underway.

I feel it is important to notice what isn't supportive or loving, choose a loving outcome and act on it from a loving space. I feel it is also important to focus on the love in ones life and let the rest fade away.

The love I felt for my ex husband was real and valid. All other experiences can fade away, because they do not serve to support me in a loving space. I choose to remove the loops around the loveless parts of my marriage and focus on the loops around the loving parts of my marriage.

So when I am ready to Begin a new relationship, I am carrying with me all the loving memories and feelings that make relationships feel loving and great.

Karin, it saddens me that your life has been an unkind loveless gauntlet. I wish you a focus on loving experiences and loving outcomes.

  joonbug : Gaia Explorer

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joonbug said Sep 8, 2008, 10:24 AM:

 

I am sorry to hear of all the pain you have suffered (on all levels).  I cannot pretend to say that I understand the point where you are coming from fully, so it may seem a bit trite when I say that you may have had to experience the trials in order to fully understand what needed to be done.  And I don't think you would have been truly healed until you did the spiritual work.  You may have smoothed the hooks for that particular type of attachement, but you probably would have continued to attract other forms of toxic experiences until you really got it.
And there is no sense blaming yourself for not seeing these things sooner, you are ready now and that is where you need to be!  I am only beginnng to understand these things, but I already know the difference between getting it and getting it.  Once it finally clicks, you think you should have known all along - it's so obvious…but you know in your heart that your mind wouldn't listen until you had decided you were ready.
Well, I hope these words of a novice help in some way.  And I am looking forward to hearing wiser thoughts on the subject. 

   Meenakshi : Connection

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Meenakshi said Sep 8, 2008, 4:45 PM:

 

Karin Maree,

When you get rid of the hooks…or the loops [thanks, Azyh; a reminder to me to move on from my use of one word and use another! The idea is still the same!].. allow them to be healed, not by staying and questioning their existence, but by sending light to the spot.

Let each question come into you and pass through you…there is no space for it to cling to you.

If it is really persistent, loosen it by allowing one answer to be true, and then another:

e.g. Q: “Could I have saved years of work by just smoothing the hooks energetically? ”

Answer 1: “yes, I could have saved years of work by just…”
Answer 2: “No, I could not have saved years of work……”

The answer doesn't really matter. What matters is, that you free yourself of the need to look at it. Just allow light to flow each time the questions [doubts] arise.

That's what is occuring to me at this moment! 

and yes–laugh a lot! At the persistence of things and the ease with which they can flow.

  Alan :  Life to life.

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Alan said Sep 8, 2008, 10:32 AM:

 

To put it simply, this bit about hooks and chords is a beautiful metaphor, of course, for the law of attraction– when it comes to: “Is it enough to cut the chord?”  

We are energetic entities in an energetic universe.  Relationships are so based on the LOA, it isn't even funny. 

Past patterns create the reality we feel we're in… sometimes for the best, sometimes tragically.  in a real sense, the energetic “smoothing out” of hooks and chords is actually the ability to look beyond the reality we feel we're born into. 

For example, you hear some men say: “All women are crazy,” and you hear some women say “All men are dogs.”

Have you ever ended up in a situation where, as man or a woman you try to convince someone that this isn't true about YOU, or necessarily all the rest of that sex?  It's not really possible!

If you've seen the Lord of the rings, there's a character in it, golum, that's convinced all people are not to be trusted,a nd will trick and betray him.  Eventually, he enters into a friendly relationship with two people, Sam and Frodo– particularly Frodo (it's a geeky reference, ok, but it illustrates the point very well, I think).  Frodo and golum are particularly close.  But one day, Frodo gets captured.  The men who capture him also find golum, and are about to kill golum.  Frodo pleads for his life, and saves it.  Instead of killing golum, the men who captured frodo allow frodo to trick golum into falling into a trap, and golum to is taken into their custody. 

Golum, of course decides that his reformed thesis– that frodo was his trustworthy friend– was wrong, and his original idea was right.  He feels he's been betrayed, and he was naive in assuming that people could be trusted. 

My point is the 'hook' is both energy, a view of the world, and interpretation of new events– what is possible, what is likely, and what's happening.  It is, in a serious way, very pervasive.  It's also a self-fulfilling prophecy, because it even hooks how we interpret other people's statements, views, and the events of our live. It doesn't just hook others, it effects how we see others… it's almost like the majority of people are like Cinderella's prince, looking for a person of the opposite sex who will fit the shoe.  If the shoe is made unconsciously, it will have been shaped, simply, by the complex ideas and feelings given to us in childhood, young adulthood, and by past relationships.  If those events were unhappy, the shoe will be… well, it will be a pretty horrid little shoe. 

Worse… he or she who holds the shoe probably thinks that the shoe is a fundamental truth…  they don't even know they're holding it!

When people don't fit it, there won't be attraction.  One guy once said to me: “For some reason, I just like crazy women!  It sucks… but the crazier they are, the hotter the [attraction] is.”  There's also the allegorical american woman of a certain type, who asks herself “why do I love bad boys so much?”  

The change that will effect the hooks and perceptual patterns is deep and all-pervasive…

But ultimatley attraction and attachment are different things.  Attraction is natural and can be good… attachment, not so much.  nothing ever stays the same, not even you.  When that which we are attached to changes form, even just a little, what we become attached to is a figment of our own perception. 

  Karin Maree : Dragonfly

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Karin Maree said Sep 8, 2008, 5:09 PM:

 


Firstly let me say Thanks for your support on this….I am at a very good place in my life now and can look back at the events and re-tell them like telling a story, no pain really, in fact it feels like another life I am recalling.
Thanks Azyh for sharing your story, I too have found the removal of cords and hooks noticeable almost instantly. I love the dimension you always bring to discussion, it always makes me think and look at new perspectives and I'll be thinking on your comment about the 'loops'.
I thought afterwards that my response really had two layers and I think I will take up one of these in a new post. I suppose the whole notion of spiritual development and sacred contracts belongs in a space of it's own, but I thank you Joonbug for your response to that aspect of my post……the notion of whether I had to go there before I could see it. I really didn't see it at all until my life depended upon it.
It's not so much a question of regret, more…..did I have to do that? I wouldn't choose these experiences, but now I have lived them, I wouldn't erase them either…..they have made me who I am….the whole 'What doesn't destroy me, makes me stronger' aspect.
Alan- spot on as always! I love the way everyone has brought a whole new perspective to this topic. It really was such a lovely way of putting exactly the point I was trying to make…..why do I attract 'bad' men? I decided to stay away from them altogether, until I sorted out that very question, knowing full well that I would just repeat the pattern.
Exactly why I look for patterns in my life, they tend to highlight some aspect that I need to address.  

  ~KES : Communicator

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

~KES said Sep 8, 2008, 6:44 PM:

 

Karin,


I was trying to understand this thread and when I read your posts I finally understood and see this work as extremely valuable to helping others.

Some of the hooks and loops and cords of attachment that are unwanted happen to every one from just being there and communicating.  Its not like we were looking for trouble intentionally. But we eventually learn not to put our hand on the stove twice .  

The three things I do that are simple yet powerful when we get burned is 1) to discover, then 2) either handle if it can be and 3) if not to cut the line to end that destruction or antagonism by choice.  

80% of the population wants the flows of life to go smoothly so there are those that are safe to connect to is my take by keeping the game of life and survival going.  But knowing that about 2% of the population will power suck and cause chaos, it's good to be aware and train ourselves.  The other 18% get into trouble but can come out of it with help from a friend that is more on the social side of expansion.  The 2% are still into building bombs or being criminal to the masses, so we do have to be aware but not flow them any power. Flowing to the 80% helps shift the consciousness of the world to a more aesthetic and spiritual celebration of real life as we know in our hearts and with those we do feel safe with.

Alan,

Thanks for your analogy to: ”If you've seen the Lord of the rings, there's a character in it, golum, that's convinced all people are not to be trusted,a nd will trick and betray him” …

Brilliant on how things truly be unpredictable and helps put up a layer to be aware of on a surface and deeper level.  And your next lines ”  My point is the 'hook' is both energy, a view of the world, and interpretation of new events– what is possible, what is likely, and what's happening.  It is, in a serious way, very pervasive.  It's also a self-fulfilling prophecy, because it even hooks how we interpret other people's statements, views, and the events of our live. It doesn't just hook others, it effects how we see others… it's almost like the majority of people are like Cinderella's prince, looking for a person of the opposite sex who will fit the shoe.  If the shoe is made unconsciously, it will have been shaped, simply, by the complex ideas and feelings given to us in childhood, young adulthood, and by past relationships.  If those events were unhappy, the shoe will be… well, it will be a pretty horrid little shoe.  

Worse… he or she who holds the shoe probably thinks that the shoe is a fundamental truth…  they don't even know they're holding it!” put so many experiences into a perspective to view the cords, hooks, and attachments and how to handle them with a slight gentle cause point.  Thanks for opening doors for all of us to see the light here.


I see a few new posts from this:  ” I really didn't see it at all until my life depended upon it” would be a wonderful topic that would help a lot of awareness shifts.

Exactly why I look for patterns in my life, they tend to highlight some aspect that I need to address. ”  would also generate change.

and from Alan - a new post allowing others to share story ideas that give analogies for others to think with life's lessons by comparing things of comparable magnitude.

Thanks to all for putting light to others so we can begin to choose to shine brightly and create more of a golden age now.

In-Lightened…Kathy


  Alika : Harbinger of ALOHA!

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - aka cords

Alika said Oct 7, 2008, 12:22 PM:

 

Aloha e Meenakshi!

Thank you for this thread and inviting me to contribute based on my knowledge of Ho'oponopono and the aka cords.

Similar to what you describe as cords and hooks, the ancient Hawaiians have what we call “aka” cords.  The aka cords connect us not just to people, but to EVERYTHING.  We are connected of course to our family and friends, co-workers, every person we come into contact with.  Yet we are also connected to so much more.  Are beliefs, impulses, emotions, temptations – often times, the aka cords that connect us to these things are stronger than those that connect us to  the people around us.  These cords are often times in shadow and difficult to see.

By tapping into the light from our Amakua or higher power, we are able to illuminate these cords and clearly see our connection to everything. 

I have a recent blog post on Ho'oponopono or how the Hawaiian method of setting yourself free from these attachments.  It is a process that I perform daily and that allows me to live in the present without having to much energy drained by the attachments to the past.

Ke aoha wale, ka mahalo wale,

Alika



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[mod note- subtitle added:” aka cords” - meenakshi 7 oct 2008]

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - aka cords

Meenakshi said Oct 7, 2008, 3:16 PM:

 

Alika, just yesterday someone was asking me about how to transcend attachments. This is a link I will send them.

And as I wrote on your blog:”What you describe goes a step further [from removing cords and hooks] by putting even thoughts and emotions on the same stage”

  Mercale : Universal Spiritualist

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Mercale said Oct 8, 2008, 5:53 AM:

 

Although I can't remember the person that said it at the moment, I like the quote “thoughts are things”. In Physics, it is Bell's therom that states that once two particles (or groups of particles) once interact in some “conventional” way, that they will continue to influence each other indefinetly and over any distance. Thus, the things we thought yesterday and are thinking today, are forming attractions (a neutral term in this usage) that we ourselves will continue to encounter, and be influenced by “no matter the time or distance”. 

It makes you really see the importance of what I call “mental management” aka. cleaning up your negative thought patterns.

What we are forming through our action (physical, emotional, thinking) is a quantum connection. I believe it is also a spiritual one of course, but specifically (which helps for my visualizations) it is a quantum one. I like to visualize myself releasing the negative connection (or it's negative aspects) on this level and sending the “hooks” back on thier way with loving release.

I've never really considered loops before, I guess I've just always figured that the healthier my own energies are, the more the problem will resolve itself. However, it might be beneficial to do some specific visualizations on this. I liked the idea of arranging them in an ordered way, but honestly I'm not sure what I would feel was the “right” way for me. Maybe it is something that will become clearer during the experience.

Thank you to everyone for their great insights on this topic. I first heard of these in the Peladian Workbook, which I believe called them “contracts” and suggseted some ways to dissolve contracts that were no longer helpful to our purpose.

Some connections are healthy I believe though. On the very first night I met my hubby, I remember that as I sat back down from a brief and uneventful introduction at my own table, I had this little “open pathway” that opened up and led back to him. I realized of course that sometimes we connect with people energetically and don't realize we're even doing it. However, this one was opened in an unusual place. Moreover, when I tried to call my energies back in and sever the connection, I couldn't.  I persisted stubbornly for more than half an hour while I sat with my friends to close the connection before I decided there must be an element at play that I did not understand and decided it's purpose would be clearer in time. Of course, in my trying to figure out the cause - we got much closer! :)

Lol, life gets frustrating sometimes  - but I have to admit, the Universe makes me laugh - often.  :)


Love, Light, and continued Laughter,

Mercale

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - contracts

Meenakshi said Oct 8, 2008, 7:54 PM:

 

Mercale, you also expand my thinking; and I really like that!
some further thoughts to yours:

” I first heard of these in the Peladian Workbook, which I believe called them “contracts” and suggseted some ways to dissolve contracts that were no longer helpful to our purpose. ”

I feel that contracts are related to attachments; in that if they exist, so do attachments; but that they extend beyond attachments. They can explain the reason why we may not be willing or able to rid ourselves of some of the hooks we have…..

“Some connections are healthy I believe though. On the very first night I met my hubby, I remember that as I sat back down from a brief and uneventful introduction at my own table, I had this little “open pathway” that opened up and led back to him. I realized of course that sometimes we connect with people energetically and don't realize we're even doing it. However, this one was opened in an unusual place. Moreover, when I tried to call my energies back in and sever the connection, I couldn't.  I persisted stubbornly for more than half an hour while I sat with my friends to close the connection before I decided there must be an element at play that I did not understand and decided it's purpose would be clearer in time. Of course, in my trying to figure out the cause - we got much closer! :)

How interesting! Brings back some memories ;)  I feel that attachments over time are not healthy; but connections are the stuff of Oneness…For a long while, my signature line said: “Connect, don't attach”

  Mercale : Universal Spiritualist

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Mercale said Oct 9, 2008, 6:54 AM:

 

I've been trying to keep mindful of hooks and possible attachments now, and make sure the pathways between me and the people around me feel clear and flowing. I'm trying to release any tension built up there and return to a more honoring flow…

Lol, and in honor of this discussion, I called hubby back after he had called to let me know he was going to be out for a short time with his buddy last night, to let him know that he was free to stay out as long as he liked. Since, as much as I enjoy his company, there was really nothing going on I couldn't handle by myself, and I thought he might like to hang out awhile longer.

What good is knowledge after all, if you don't apply it as often as possible?        ;-)


Livin' it so I don't lose it,

Mercale

  Alan :  Life to life.

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Alan said Oct 9, 2008, 7:20 PM:

 

I thought I'd share a practice– one of my old ones:


close your eyes


focus on imagining a perfectly smooth, round stone.  

when you can see it and feel it, drop it.  

let it fall away, as if into an endless black sea.  

now, call back another stone.  feel it.  see it.  

imagine dropping it into an endless, black sea.   

now, feel an emotion, or a cord, or a hook that you don't like.  

contemplate it.  visualize it…

then ball it up.   turn it into a perfectly smooth, round stone.  

drop it into an endless, black sea.  

rinse and repeat as needed.  : )  

letting go is as simple as letting go, really… 

just make sure you don't pick it back up again! 



______

there's also a meditative application I used to use, in which I WAS the stone

falling down and down deeper

into consciousness itself, all the way down to the roots of the thing.

Doing that is when I first hit “non-being.”  how low can you go?

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Meenakshi said Oct 15, 2008, 5:10 PM:

 

[now where did i misplace my comment?]]

I thought I'd responded to this. I really enjoyed your suggestion, Alan; specially because of the tactile feeling of the stone. and the suggestion of water that can cleanse emotions or otherwise represent them….

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Meenakshi said Jan 7, 11:10 AM:

 

A related blog in which Liz has described a process using tai chi;

Protecting my Chi

Posted on Jan 7th, 2009 by Lizzyl : Seeker of Truth and Harmony Lizzyl

  ~KES : Communicator

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

~KES said Jan 7, 3:20 PM:

 

awesome.  She describes power suckers beautifully or vampire suckers that suck energy.  Now I get what the cords and hooks are with full conceptual understanding.   I couldn't fully think with it before.  Thanks.

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - on the path to light connection

Meenakshi said Jul 5, 8:00 AM:

 

I've been getting information that if we are not ready to remove the hooks that attract the cords; we can, specially as an emergency measure, cut the cords. That will still keep us attached at a higher vibration, but for the moment, it helps on the path to making a light connection

As always, with everything to do with energy, we each have our own inner guidance, and we need to follow that to do what the oneness requires of each of us in our own unique places.

   Meenakshi : Connection

Re: Cords, hooks, attachments - how to handle them

Meenakshi said Sep 13, 7:54 AM:

 

We did not touch upon the subject of forgiveness, which is one of the energy patterns that help to dissolve cords/loops/hooks/contracts.

A discussion that's related- in the One Light Many Windows group
Open Windows, Sept. 2009. Forgiveness - How it worked for me