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Re: Should we predict death?

Gypster said Dec 4, 2007, 9:29 AM:

In my opinion it would be unethical to breathe energy into the situation by thinking it or saying it, much less telling the individual about a “pending death.” All a psychic sees is a tendancy or a possibility within a person's energy and they are never set in stone.

The best course of action would be to try to diffuse said death by sending the person your well wishes and prayers, yet do NOT utter one single word about death or dying to anyone. If that person is receptive to your energies, the instance will be avoided. But if it's not we are not in control of what their higher self has in store.

I have recently rediscovered this since my late father committed suicide. I have come to understand the signs that were there that I had overlooked. And I have come to the understanding that it was absolutely 100% beyond my control, as with any death of those around me.

I simply refuse to debate about whether or not I'd help someone physically who was in dire need. I most certainly would do my best to “rescue” them but be sure I do not go down with the sinking ship as well. If they are rejecting my help overtly or I am getting clues from my higher self to back away, I will leave them to experience the choices they've made.

Best,

Sara H.

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Re: Should we predict death?

Gypster said Dec 4, 2007, 9:32 AM:

Oh and one more thing, please don't assume that this is an easy task to watch as someone you love disintrigrates. It's not. I am not a person without feeling. It IS painful, yet reason and discernment still needs to be applied in order to avoid creating more suffering.

Re: Should we predict death?

Bryan said Dec 4, 2007, 9:58 AM:

Interesting question. I believe the question not only asks us to consider how uncomfortable this sensitivity is, but to consider the true purpose for which the ability is intended.

To predict the time of death does have a purpose beyond being accurate. If one is on her death bed and death is imminent, then some spiritual understanding is helpful to the dying and to those who must let go.

I use the sensitivity to begin instructing the person's subconscious on how to transition (like giving instructions from the Book of the Dead) or use it to reitterate to a loved one through the understanding of death, that death is only a temporary separation.

Not only do I predict the death, per se, but I include some other gems of intuitive information that tie it all together from a divine perspective (the guru servant in me). This creates the Jon Edwards effect before the transition occurs. A lot of comfort comes from that.

If the death will be accidental, out of the blue, unexpected; that is another thing.

In reality, death is never untimely, because it is always karmically planned.

I can tell if death can be avoided through an intervention by the feeling of the whole scenario. If it is my role to intervene, I play the part, and if I do not intervene, someone else always does.

No karmic outcome rests soley on one or two insightful intuitives. If you are not sure what to do, do nothing and watch the universe conspire. Learn from the outcome. Otherwise, plenty of intuitives walk around with the weight of world.

When listening to the news and hearing of a missing person, I know if the person is still alive. I also know that I am not to intervene. How?

I take a step back and look at the larger picture, and see what was meant to be accomplished from the event from a universal perspective; and without a second thought, I change the channel.

It is the same with death. The ability to foretell is not chiefly meant for intervention. Some people use the ability creatively.

Some of these light workers take care of the elderly at nursing homes and wait for death to come and give comfort. Therapy animals do this all the time.

On both sides of the psychic veil, these light workers sit and wait to do nothing more than facilitate the process, like the little lady in Poltergeist who said, “Go into the light children! Go into the light! All are welcome! All are welcome!”

Re: Should we predict death?

LittleDove said Dec 4, 2007, 10:35 AM:

Hi < May I say this , I believe that if you have the information ,and someone point blank asks you, You need to be honest and tell them.. If they dont ask ,dont say anything. the other day I spoke with someone I trust with all my heart, I asked a question ,but I already have the answer .I told him that ..but still this person would not answer me, the fact that he did not answer ,gave me my answer, . I have been given some information about someone very dear to me , It was given by my beloved guide and the angels as well. It has been confirmed over and over and over by other people I value as true and very highly evolved and very spiritual intuitives. I have made the decision not to tell this person that i love so much and who is going to die, that he will be passing from this world in a few short months. The information was given to me for my growth and to help me . My Guide told me to prepare me so it would not be such a shock and i could begin to get things in order slowly so I could go on . So if you have been given info about someone you are close to , maybe you need to think about why You received the info in the first place. It could have been given to help you ,not the one who is leaving. As I was told in our case ,He has completed his lifes purpose and is tired . he is ready to go home now to rest. That is all I know. Hope it helps in some way. if not, I hope it makes some sense.. Blessings, Littledove.

Re: Should we predict death?

Psychic Dad [no longer around] said Dec 4, 2007, 11:17 PM:

LittleDove wrote:

“I believe that if you have the information ,and someone point blank asks you, You need to be honest and tell them.. If they dont ask ,dont say anything.”

When I first started giving psychic readings to the public about 12 years ago, I was instructed by a teacher to reveal everything I received to my clients. The pain I caused my clients and myself quickly put that naivety to rest.

I believe there are revelations that we receive solely for our personal benefit; our understanding, emotional preparation and enrichment.

*Please note: I no longer do psychic readings for the public.

Re: Should we predict death?

Psychic Dad [no longer around] said Dec 4, 2007, 11:08 PM:

Bryan wrote:

“I believe the question not only asks us to consider how uncomfortable this sensitivity is, but to consider the true purpose for which the ability is intended.”

Indeed Bryan, as we know, it can be incredibly uncomfortable…almost torturous.

Your idea of preparing someone for transition is a wise one.

You also wrote:

“When listening to the news and hearing of a missing person, I know if the person is still alive. I also know that I am not to intervene. How?”

I have experienced this as well. Occasionally I am asked by friends why I do not contact law enforcement and report what I know. Usually it is because I know the outcome and also that I know the person will be found within days. There is no reason for me to report in those cases.

Re: Should we predict death?

Psychic Dad [no longer around] said Dec 4, 2007, 10:07 PM:

Gypster (Sara) wrote:

“In my opinion it would be unethical to breathe energy into the situation by thinking it or saying it, much less telling the individual about a 'pending death. ' All a psychic sees is a tendancy or a possibility within a person's energy and they are never set in stone.”

I wish I could agree with this statement. My experience, while admittedly limited to my life, has proven otherwise. As far as I can tell, there are “death points” where someone could make transition and others where it is inevitable.

I definitely agree that some deaths really are beyond our control or influence, even in the case of suicide.

I very much appreciate your input and view point.

Re: Should we predict death?

Gypster said Dec 12, 2007, 9:52 AM:

You (Psychic Dad) said in response to my post:

“I wish I could agree with this statement. My experience, while admittedly limited to my life, has proven otherwise. As far as I can tell, there are “death points” where someone could make a transition and others where it is inevitable. ”

I do agree with this, which is why (I feel) it is very important to not breathe energy at the person that could make the transition. To utter the words (from silence into sound, and from sound into matter) can make a probable instance manifest more readily. Of course things may change on a case by case basis, since it is ultimately our Higher Selves which make the decisions.

The higher self of healer/psychic can observe what the healee/person has in store. Sometimes what our rationalizing mind says can be different from what our intuitive selves say to do. This is sometimes tricky because we need ot filter through the selfish emotions and thoughts of our lower selves to come to the best decision for all involved. And sometimes that's the hardest to do.

Hence, in my experience it is sometimes very necessary for me to act from afar, to provide “distance support and healing” and to only speak and emote positive things around an individual that could shift into another type of existance.

Any inappropriate action (not in accordance with my higher self or the other person's higher self) would bring big, heavy bags of “karmic responsibility” for myself and would sling that negativity at the other person. Not to say that I would not have the absolute “best” intentions… but as I stated before, sometimes our “best” is not what is appropriate in any given situation.

As far as someone “known” to be making the transition definately in one of the “death points”, it's important to read what's in store for their higher self and discern very carefully about the best course of action whether it be direct or indirect.

Best,

Sara H.