Gaia: Queer Mythos, Stories, Evolving a New Paradigm of being Gay - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER TOPICS

integrity of ritual

http://deepwoodsart.gaia.com — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 11:46:13 GMT

ah, in the midst of the trans forma shun i sea the publicity the apathey the confundi of where to turn how to say how to par tiss i pate in the majick of now.... the drums are wobbly, angels wings fall upon ...us i sit by the fires i see whiskey i see radios i see blur i hear desire! a start a seed to en gage in the forming of the dreamworld this means showing up contributing silence devotion integration impeccability subtlety the future is a promotion now, 2012 a mere campaign? halloween a masked commodity? a drunken rebellion? ah. yes. of course the wizzzzzzzzzzzzards, the witches brujas, magos..... what are we thinking? doing? in rit chual? mocking, or engaging, participating? innovating or drunk, shallow, distant and confused? i wonder, our dear sanctuaries, our dances what has happened, where will we go to be the song to sing, to dance this new world into being au then tickly! @@@ this chance we have to change is all but gone... a dillusion of books and tapes and egoperformania why do we seek attention? the dress, the make-UP/ to transform into the unreal? transcend the body, the norm? knowing that somewhere at sometime, the gates will explode soon now and will there be beer, whiskey, radios, casual flare? oh the dance of the ritual.... dedication, ego.... who is the most powerful shaman of them all? dear mirror? the eye that truely sees. is the I that releases the expectation of being who u want or think you are in the midst of the flames we burn our flesh off the skin of false desires clinging to our bones ..... that damn material world fun . but . dry . bone dry. we seek truth. alas, is it there? this moment we all wait for? the future? the past we missed it. it wasandis NOWW not in 4 years, 50 years, or yesterday it is now the change the ritual showup integrity = authenticity no rules play bliss dance kiss alas, where are our hearts the atrophy the "rightreight" brain light glows and glows, we shiver in its midst wondering if.... we shall survive as the culture of denial fades like a ..... torn flag no longer the ritual we thought the preparation the glow the SHOW! do your best be impecable show up assume the best be majick dance joy breath love ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh aum (there are hidden messages in here) (no one turned away for lack of fun) (no smoking anything but hashishishshishsis) (send money to your favorite ant) (and?) .... ... .. .

Re: rock and roll shaman book

http://folksoul.gaia.com — Sat, 09 Sep 2006 02:52:01 GMT

intention... intention?

or is it depending on consciousness and what they allow to come through?

or both?

:-)
d

Re: rock and roll shaman book

http://deepwoodsart.gaia.com — Sat, 09 Sep 2006 01:00:12 GMT

yes, yes, it's the whole notion about rock concerts and dj's getting the ecstatic pulse going

but where
and for what....
intention intention....

rock and roll shaman book

http://folksoul.gaia.com — Fri, 08 Sep 2006 05:14:54 GMT

well... the whole concept makes sense given the way that a dj can feel the energy and work things accordingly when they are spinning somewhere and how they move the crowd through music, so i would think that to tap into the energy and work with it and much like when someone does a healing circle, people are drawn and repelled based on the energy. so the whole idea makes sense.

i can get my hands on a copy eventually i think based on what i found online. looks like some university libraries around have copies, and as long as they can do interlibrary loan i can borrow it. i wonder if it is public domain yet.

i tend to read slow and i am trying to get through this book on african shamanism at the moment. some books i read faster, but this stuff is going in slower and more densely as are some other books that i want to read. maybe i just need to scan them for chunks because i am backing up with this stuff. i seem to always wind up working with people more than i research lately.

om...
d

Re: What is the new paradigm for being gay?

http://deepwoodsart.gaia.com — Thu, 07 Sep 2006 19:21:53 GMT

well keep searching, it is not usually in libraries... tho i don't know much about internet libraries????
it's a very very very cool book if you can get your hands on a copy...if i had a copy i'd send it to you on loan,
i had borrowed a friends' wanted to get my own and bumped up against the 125 dollar ticket for it as well..
rock and rolll

it also talks about the the circus and the roll of harlequins and jazz and houdini and gypsy culture all the way back to the shamans of siberia....
pretty cool stuff.

banjo, dulcimer, etc....

http://folksoul.gaia.com — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:22:21 GMT

banjo... or a dulcimer after seeing that guy play a dulcimer over the weekend and loving that up.... or even a guitar or a combination. maybe i would be just as happy having someone else playing the banjo and doing my thing as a storyteller or singer or some such thing. one of the story tellers had another guy up performing with her.

i guess i will just sit with the energy and see what unfolds. keep following the pieces and see where they go. assembling the puzzle.

i am definitely aware of the energy some of these folks have and how it affects things, but hadn't thought of them in terms of shamans thus far so much, and it makes sense as a form of group healing/transformation work. something even about just knowing that book name is already working away at me.

thanks.
d

Re: What is the new paradigm for being gay?

http://folksoul.gaia.com — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:04:00 GMT

hrm... i did find it at a library locally oddly enough. well, one not too far away that i can maybe do a loan from. other books probably should read first, but wonderful to know about and added to my list.

-d

Re: What is the new paradigm for being gay?

http://folksoul.gaia.com — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 03:02:16 GMT

interesting... hrm...

sounds fascinating... yeah, it is a pricey book. 125.00 at the only place that i could find it at the initial search. at least they have it i guess. certainly don't have the budget for it, but i guess i could check other options for it. interlibrary loan??? lol. that doesn't sound likely though eh?

-d

Re: What is the new paradigm for being gay?

http://deepwoodsart.gaia.com — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 02:25:22 GMT

you
my
friend
are my
part of my
inspiration cauldron

and yes,
YOU
shall
make it so
to become a
song and dance man/woman
with banjo in hand
and call the spirits forth

check out the book, (hard to find and expensive )
:::: The Death and Resurection Show
the history of rock and roll and shamanism.....

kiss,
willow WONDER

Re: gay at various non-gay events...

http://deepwoodsart.gaia.com — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 02:22:00 GMT

thank you for pointing out this opportunity
i will look into how /when i can do just this...
tell queer myths at nongay events
but is there such a thing????
tee hee
where
ever
i am
it's gay....

gay at various non-gay events...

http://folksoul.gaia.com — Tue, 05 Sep 2006 18:02:38 GMT

i had an experience over the weekend which i thought i would share. you can look at the 'events' section for my comments on the overall event, but i wanted to share this particular element in a different thread and get others thoughts/perspectives on the subject. curious for example where some of the gay storytellers tell stories. always gay events? should we have people also at non-gay events helping to raise consciousness about us? i certainly appreciated the african american and african focused storytellers and what they have to offer.

i went to the storytelling festival this past weekend. second largest one in the country as i understand it. rich, wonderful experience. surrounded by community. no drinking. no smoking in the park. outdoors in large tents with open sides. live music. folkish, americana, bluesy/jazz/pop, etc… 2 1/2 days of heaven in many ways.

here i was. gay man. out on the one hand. comfortable talking to family about basic stuff, but at the same time, not really a place where i could comfortably lay down with a partner. may not be beat up, but would have mormon vigilantes surely talking to me about how my love was inappropriate for children to see (i am in utah). i don't have a partner anyhow, but had me longing for a nurturing and welcoming environment for gay people that is not rough as are most clubs and gay environments where sex is on everyone's minds to such an extent that not much else is.

Re: What is the new paradigm for being gay?

http://folksoul.gaia.com — Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:59:21 GMT

hey willow...

i noticed i mispelled your name up there. eek. typo.

i looked at your new pic in the profile and noticed the 'willow wonder' in there and have to comment on how i love that word 'wonder' and how it seems to me the essence that i crave authentically. distinct from a lot of visual noise or other things.

i turned on the tv... ifc the other day. i like some of their films, and other films on there lack something. i think what they lack is the wonder and the magic of things and even painful films or stories can have wonder and magic. many of them have visual interest or attempt it. like attempting something weird for the sake of being weird.

i found myself contemplating a banjo lately. not sure if i have mentioned that here, but i may mention it a few times in that it feels like this aspect of embracing some deeper parts of myself. this child that grew up singing folk songs and countryish folk songs. a part of me craves willie nelson and kenny rogers lately, something i would likely not have really allowed for myself. somehow it seems appropriate to mention in this thread. i think partly because i associate so much of the country stuff to wyoming and colorado and other places with poor track records around gay issues. i have sorta viewed that as not a domain for gay folk, and somehow inferior to the glamour of urban gay life.

more and more if i see a future with someone i see a future where i can listen to folk music comfortably and have that aspect of my soul enjoyed. i am following the energy of that, but just watching how a part of me felt suppressed by a guy i liked who hated when i had folk music on. hated the twang of things. at least he likes john denver though. i guess it was a country twang he couldn't enjoy. for me there is an authentic joy that comes through in some of those songs that doesn't come through in the more protected glamourization of so much pop.

i wandered youtube.com the other day and found video of a drag queen playing the banjo and for me i think that is what my soul craves. that is what seems like a new gay paradigm. one where we can embrace ourselves beyond gay commercialization, beyond american cultural commercialization. to really explore who we are vs. trying to fit into one area or another.

i love your image in the photo willow. thanks for sharing it. your images remind me of some of the tibetan masks and costumes that they use. not that they so much look the same, but they are alive and vibrant in a way that one doesn't see a lot of in modern culture. what are your inspirations?

-d

Re: What is the new paradigm for being gay?

Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:45:22 GMT

I loved reading this thread ...

I really don't get to bent out of shape trying to classify sexuality. I think sexuality can be a very fluid and personal thing. Since I was 12, I identified as gay ... maybe I had it a bit easier than others, but what matters to me is that people respect who I am, and being a gay man is a very significant part of who I am. I don't mind at all if people want to say I'm homosexual or queer, that's no big deal to me ... I just want to be respected as an equal regardless of sex and sexuality.

Shalom,

JuJu!

Re: What is the new paradigm for being gay?

http://deepwoodsart.gaia.com — Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:24:13 GMT

we are on the inside looking outside of the inside....
ya know?
i was just talking with a new fae friend in vancouver today,
and how easily we "box" and categorize our "I-dentities"....
some call me a "glam fae", others see me as a "hippy"
and others find me as a "new age" and on...
and ya know,
i'm just a willow in the wind... sometimes munk, sometimes hermit, sometimes wizard, sometimes a boy in the cornfield, sometimes a sexy dancer, and on ....

it's these roles we play that become attachments...either by ourselves to our pysche or by others....
as for me, Am I gay, Am I a woman or a man?
alas,

I was asked onece at a dinner party, "are you a witch?"
"hm.... trick question," i replied, "you mean the good witch/bad witch thing?"
"you look like a witch".... said the other
"Well then I am neither a witch or Not a witch then..."
"You are magical"
"Indeed and so are you"

as we seek to find our truths and to learn more about creating the dream hologram we desire, releasing ego attachment to identities seems to be where i am at these days...
I love the picture,
i have up
it's from a dance I did for a show " Flight of the Jaguar Magician"

the song was
"Dancing Gold Into your eyes"
"Mirrors of myself"
Your eyes are my mirrors
Beauty is our dance....

this i think, is one of the veins of being gay i enjoy....
dancing beauty into each others eyes

and then
another friend in hawaii, a hemophrodite, queries me on drag and identity,
and I offered,
that we role play, we shapeshift, we (i), wear masks....
I am a creator and my body is a palatte of material and ethereal imagery....
i say,
why not have fun,
even if---
that means
wearing overalls in a cornfield with no underwear...
tee heee
yum yum yum
aum.
namaste, sweet david
your voice, is your song......

Re: Queer Myth Archetypes - Androgyny

http://folksoul.gaia.com — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 21:10:29 GMT

it seems to me a lot of people run around dancing half naked at pride events talking about pride and i have been to some of those, but never really felt all that proud to be gay. i still don't know that i am proud in the traditional sense, but i certainly enjoy my relational orientation and the variances that make up myself as a gay being.

aum... om... ohm...

:-)

-d

Re: Queer Myth Archetypes - Androgyny

http://deepwoodsart.gaia.com — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 19:59:13 GMT

yes, being gay is grande...
the deeper we go, the more we understand and delight in why
the queer is here...and has and always will be...
to do fine magic...
mmmmmmmmmm
aummmmmmmmmmmmm

Re: Queer Myth Archetypes - Androgyny

http://folksoul.gaia.com — Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:59:10 GMT

lol... glad to hear... shanee it is then it would appear (at least from this homo being). now i have a friend shanee... and a friend shaynee... or shah-nae-nae maranga as i sometimes call him (you are the shanee of course!)

small pod aside... i had a moment in the car the other day where i turned to my friend and said... i love being gay... or some such thing. a really interesting moment. have probably felt that a time or too, but somewhere in there it felt deeper than it has before. probably all the reading i have been doing about gay identity. fascinating stuff.

lol...
d

Re: Queer Myth Archetypes - Androgyny

http://shaneequajackson.gaia.com — Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:44:39 GMT

"Shanee" is just fine, LOL!

Re: What is the new paradigm for being gay?

http://folksoul.gaia.com — Mon, 21 Aug 2006 04:17:52 GMT

i think my consciousness needs to prepare for the wonder that is willow. i feel a bit less T E R R I F I E D than i did the first time you mentioned something like that. you are a whole big bunch of creativity and color (of course in your pic you come in unhuman colors even :-) but over time as i read, explore and gestate in the wonderful essences of the soul/mind, it seems a bit less of a terror and more of a potential delight to interact in person.

it is funny, reminds me of a friend who met me a few years ago. first time on the phone with me he freaked out at my voice. may have mentioned that in this group at some point. anyhow, over time he lets himself be more genderfluid at least by his definitions and more expressive. for me i think creative expression is a bit scary for me. all the color. all the life. there is a part of me that just likes my mellow little monk life and maybe i am supposed to, but obviously letting myself explore a bit beyond that. to some i am wildly alive and creative, but up against shanee and wilow, i feel like a wallflower and happily so. on the outside looking in? on the inside looking out?

-d

Re: Queer Myth Archetypes - Androgyny

http://folksoul.gaia.com — Mon, 21 Aug 2006 04:13:10 GMT

the dance between the value of definition and the necessity of it and the sheer hell it can create for us and others. creating a structure that one feels at home in, only to feel claustrophobic and need to move on.

love you comments willow. great stuff.

om...
d