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&lt;p&gt;      &lt;div style="font-family: Lucida Sans Unicode,Lucida Grande"&gt;&lt;font size="4" style="color: #bf5f00; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;The 3 Levels of Satsang (Association with Eternal  Truth -- God)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;font size="5"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;The Sant Mat Mysticism  Blog:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&lt;a href="http://santmat.gaia.com/"&gt;http://santmat.gaia.com&lt;/a&gt; &amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;font size="5"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Sant Mat Fellowship:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&lt;a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SantMatFellowship"&gt;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SantMatFellowship&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;{&amp;quot;Repeat  the Name of your Beloved, day and night, again and again. With care in thought,  word and deed, you will cross to the other shore.&amp;quot; -- Dadu}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;font size="5"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;(and) Meditation Sangat:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&lt;a href="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MeditationSangat"&gt;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MeditationSangat&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;{&amp;quot;Do not  live even a single day without inner meditation.&amp;quot; -- Baba Devi Sahab}&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;font size="5"&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;From a new, revised  translation of the book, The Harmony of All Religions, Chapter Seven: Sant  Mat, by &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="4" style="color: #bf5f00; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Satguru Sant Sevi Ji  Paramahansa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;font size="4" style="color: #bf5f00; font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"&gt;&lt;font size="5"&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;The word satsang is  comprised of two words: sat and sang. What is sat? &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Sat is that which can never be destroyed and is  ever-existent. It is the essential element, indestructible and beyond the  limitations of time. And it is Truth or Being. Sang means association or  contact. Thus, the word satsang refers to association or coming into contact  with Sat (Truth).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;In the Bhagavad Gita Lord Krishna states:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;Whatever is Truth always exists and is never  non-existent. That which is non Truth has no existence whatsoever.&amp;quot;  (2:16)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;font size="5"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Satsang can be  stratified in to following categories:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;bull; The First Kind of  Satsang (Association with the Divine):&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;What then is this  element which is indestructible, has always been constant and will forever  remain as such? This principle is the Supreme Being of the universe. Association  with this Being, in reality, is association with Truth (satsang). But, what is  it that could associate with this Supreme Being? Is it the body or the senses?  The answer is that it is neither of these two. It is only apart from the body  and senses that we will be able to associate with the Supreme Being. This is  because it is only our soul that is an inseparable part of the Divine. It is  only we (our soul) that are capable of merging with the Divine. Our individual  soul is truth, and also, the Supreme Being is Truth. True satsang is the unity  of the soul with the Supreme Truth. This is the highest kind of satsang.  However, this highest kind of satsang, unity with the Divine, does not occur  suddenly. This category of satsang requires many lifetimes of good actions  samskaras (spiritual imprints and tendencies).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;font size="5"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;bull; The Second Kind of  Satsang (Association with the Saints): &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Sant Tulsidas Ji  emphasizes the association with the saints for the realization of the  Divine:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;ldquo;The association of the saints brings association with  the Divine, and alliance with people who are engrossed in the world leads the  way back to this world again and again.&amp;rdquo;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;To attain Ultimate Liberation it is essential to have  association with the saints. Saints, those who have realized the true form of  God, become that True Form. The accomplished great beings who have attained  unity with the Divine, and who have experienced the Supreme Being even while  living in this body, have become the Supreme Being [meaning they have become one  with their true Divine Form]. Association with these saints is this second  category of satsang. However, finding such a saint is not an easy task. A true  saint is rare and difficult to find.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Sant Tulsidas explains in the  Ramacharitmanas:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;Without accumulation  of many good deeds one will be unable to gain the association of a great  saint.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;When our good karmas  permit, we are able to come to experience the association of these sentient  beings. A more important point is that even if we have a direct encounter with  such a saint, we often do not have the wisdom to be able to recognize a genuine  sage. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;A great Sant Tulsi  Sahab states the difficulty in recognizing a saint:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;If someone says &amp;lsquo;I have recognized a saint,&amp;rsquo; then I  put my hands on my ears in astonishment.&amp;quot; [It is not an easy task.]&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;If it were possible  for ordinary people to recognize saints, then why, since antiquity, have so many  great saints, sages, and prophets have been tortured, maimed and killed? Many  saints throughout the ages have had to face horrible atrocities. This simply  would not have happened if people were able to recognize the genuine great  saints.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;font size="5"&gt;&lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;bull; The Third Kind of  Satsang (Association with the Words and Writings of Ancient Sages and Saints):  &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;In daily life we need the guidance of a great sage or  saint. Even though we might hear about or encounter many so called mahatmas or  sadhus, the task of finding and identifying an accomplished guide is difficult.  A truly great sage is a rarity. So, in consideration of this, how would satsang  (association with a true saint) be possible? The answer is that we can study the  teachings of the great saints of the past, because in their teaching, we will  find the elaboration of the Truth. This then is the third category of satsang.  Generally, when we speak of satsang, it is this third category that is meant.  This kind of satsang includes the study of scriptures and the words and writings  of the saints and prophets of the past.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;As we continue diligently in this third type of  satsang, we accumulate the meritorious karmas which will lead to the meeting  with a true saint. Then we will be able to do the second category of satsang and  will have a good fortune of listening to the words of realized beings who  presently reside among us. As we continue in association with a great saint, and  with the saint&amp;rsquo;s blessings, we will gradually begin to meditate and undertake  the prescribed spiritual disciplines. By diligently practicing these  disciplines, we will one day, experience the first category of satsang&amp;mdash;the  association with the Supreme. When we have thus accomplished the highest  category of satsang, our life&amp;rsquo;s ultimate purpose will be fulfilled. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;We will now examine  some of the scriptures and the sayings of saints in this regard:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;In the Yajur Veda,  satsang is known as the Buddhi yoga (dhiyam). This is the yoga of intellectually  discerning the truth. The Yajur Veda elaborates on the significance of the  Buddhi yoga:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;O Dear Aspirants! In  order to realize the essential form of the Supreme Being, first practice the  Buddhi yoga (satsang), then M&#257;nas yoga (practice mantra and focus on the Divine  form), and the Yoga of Light (Dri&#347;ti yoga). By these practices you will  establish the ground for the realization of Divine Union.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;In the Maha Upanishad,  satsang is considered essential for Liberation:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;On the gate of liberation are found four gate keepers  endowed with wisdom. These four are: discipline, thoughtfulness (reflection),  contentment and association with saints.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Sant Tulsidas Ji sings  in the praise of satsang:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;Without the  association of great saints, there is neither discourse of the Divine nor the  understanding of the scriptures. Without these two, selfish attachment does not  loosen its grip. And without dispelling attachment to the world one cannot  attain the realm of the Divine and the true devotion that is essential to  realize the Divine.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Further, he  says:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;Wisdom, fame, supreme salvation, attainment of all  powers and kindliness are all realized by the power of satsang. No other means  are prescribed in the Vedas to attain these.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Sant Kabir Sahab  elaborates on the purpose of satsang:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;Discord and delusion  can be removed by the power of the association of saints. For those who  associate with saints, suffering dissolves and they will remain immersed in joy.  Joy arises from noble company and pain arises from association with the wicked,  says Kabir, go to a place where saints dwell and their association is  possible.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;A great woman saint,  Sahjo Bai, has also said:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;Whoever comes to  satsang is released from the confinements of individual caste, status and color.  Even the flow of dirty water, upon reaching the holy River Ganga, becomes Ganga  (loses its impurity and comes to be known as the holy river).&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Sant Sundar Das Ji  says:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;All people have a mother and father as well as  relatives and friends. It is easy to obtain sons and wives, but it is very  difficult to find true satsang (association of true saints).&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Sant Tulsi Sahab  says:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;O Aspirant! Perform satsang by subduing the mind and  taking refuge in saints. Keep in your heart a ceaseless burning desire to be at  the feet (tutelage) of saints.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Maharishi Mehi Paramahans Ji asks his aspirants to  perform both kinds of satsang:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;Dear Aspirants! Each  day strive to do both kinds of satsang: inner and outer. Outer satsang is  listening to the teachings of great saints and studying the sacred texts. Inner  satsang is the practice of one-pointed meditation.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;Yogi Panchanan  Bhattacharya Ji says:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;&amp;quot;By association with a  pure soul the mind becomes pure and the darkness of attachment is dispelled. In  attending to these quotes from different saints it becomes clear that satsang is  vital and very necessary for any serious spiritual seeker.&amp;quot;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;font size="5"&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold" /&gt; &lt;span style="font-weight: bold"&gt;--- Satguru Sant Sevi Ji  Paramahansa&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;br style="font-weight: bold; color: #bf5f00" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br style="color: #bf5f00" /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/p&gt;

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