Gaia: Silent Temple - Proposals

Re: Right and Wrong

http://kevinsworld.gaia.com — Thu, 26 Jun 2008 01:05:09 GMT

thank you thank you!

Re: Right and Wrong

http://environsand.gaia.com — Wed, 25 Jun 2008 08:20:32 GMT

yes-I agree there is right and wrong -just as there is black and white.

What is wrong for some, maybe right for other's -but there is a basic
principle of defining what is wrong-
anything that is unjust, cruel, vindictive or violent is wrong.

Right is goodness, compassion, understanding and forgiveness-
to name but a few.

I think it is best to apply the principle -
"do unto other's as you would have them do to you"

S

Re: Right and Wrong

http://SilentTemple.gaia.com — Thu, 12 Jun 2008 07:47:24 GMT

I believe it does.

However, I really feel there is right and wrong on various levels.

Re: Right and Wrong

http://kevinsworld.gaia.com — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:09:12 GMT

if there is no right or wrong and there is only what is in everyone's best interest and what is not in everyone's best interest, what is meant by "right thought" and "right action?"

Does that mean psychologically healthy thought/action? or thinking and acting from our centers??

Re: Right and Wrong

http://keciabaldwin.gaia.com — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 23:32:19 GMT

Re: Right and Wrong

http://Bob68.gaia.com — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:37:28 GMT

Brother to brother, helping each other.

Sisters too, with a hand out for you.

When the time is right, help if you might.

but as Davey Crockett said:

"Be sure you're right, then go ahead."

Love,
Bob

Re: Right and Wrong

http://kevinsworld.gaia.com — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:16:43 GMT

not too long ago I would have thought, "no action isn't an action!" haha. But I have recently begun to understand that choosing to perform no action can be more beneficial than any other action in many circumstances...

thank you Bob.

Love Kevin

Re: Right and Wrong

http://evemelliot.gaia.com — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:28:59 GMT

-----And I just read part of an oath I took long ago...."do no harm". This may seem off in left field to many, but I hope that when I did choose that it was "better to do nothing" at that particular time and this is loosely phrased, when I say, not to do anything on certain levels of being invasive or as trial and error. Was no harm was done as I promised. There is much truth with what Hamilton quoted, and I still find myself at times quesioning me. Did I do no harm? This resonates to the core of me to this day and to the "DUDE", in that one statement, it does at times "make it hard to maintain my will to be groovy".

Namaste--- to your insight and what you said. You could have been speaking to me of the me that was.

Re: Right and Wrong

http://hamiltonb.gaia.com — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 14:18:32 GMT

There is a Taoist saying: Wei wu wei!
The action of no action.

Some times no action, do no harm, is the best action, and creates the most beneficial karma.
Bob, you are so right

Re: Right and Wrong

http://Bob68.gaia.com — Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:48:40 GMT

Always good to hear from you Kevin:

Sometimes you have to let others suffer. No one has figured out how to make both the Palestinians and the Israelis happy at the same time. At least on a National Scale the same is true of the Democrats and Republicans, liberals versus conservatives. In a world of ignorance most people cling desperately to their suffering. Clinging to ideas creates suffering.

Going back to your original question, how is one to know what benefits all? Realizing that most live in a polarized world embracing a spectrum of right and wrong how can actions benefit all? One of the world's problems is that too many people think they know what's best for others. Then they think they know what's best for all others.

Some times no action, do no harm, is the best action, and creates the most beneficial karma.

Did you ever hear those talk shows where they get four or more people of differing views and they all start to argue and yell at the same time. Each knows what is best from their limited view. And nothing is accomplished and no one changes. They all go away angry and suffering. If you try to change them they will suffer and you will suffer.

Getting people to take responsibility for their own karma would be a good first step. but in the mass universe that is too big of task. It takes you right back to the Palestinians and Israelis.

So possibly in one small corner of the world you can shine it. One small step at a time. This is something you can do. It is something I can do. It is something we all can do.

Wishing you a small tranquil day,
Bob

Re: Right and Wrong

http://kevinsworld.gaia.com — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:27:53 GMT

thank you sean. =)

Re: Right and Wrong

http://SilentTemple.gaia.com — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:19:48 GMT

I once learned a Theravada prayer. It starts out, "May you be happy, healthy, comfortable, and successful!" It goes on from there, eventually including all being, substantial and insubstantial, known and unknown, seen and unseen within the universe and beyond.

So ... to me, what benefits all is realizing and helping with what makes those we encounter happy, healthy, comfortable, and successful. Thinking about these four "things," they are all interrelated and really one "thing." Also, interrelating this way, we are one non-thing with the non-thing we interrelate with. laughing inside

Doing the best we can, we evolve, actually becoming better at right action and right thinking - helping sentient beings to be more happy, healthy, comfortable, and successful.

Re: Right and Wrong

http://SilentTemple.gaia.com — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:12:02 GMT

You are NICE, Nicole! :O)

Re: Right and Wrong

http://kevinsworld.gaia.com — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:36:28 GMT

How do I know what benefits all?

I mean, I think I have a good idea of what benefits all, but there are certain issues where I am not sure.

I suppose trying to do what benefits all is the best anyone can do....

Re: Right and Wrong

http://SilentTemple.gaia.com — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 02:28:04 GMT

"I don't know what I may seem to the world. But as to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the seashore and diverting myself now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than the ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me."

Isaac Newton

Re: Right and Wrong

http://singerseeker.gaia.com — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:48:34 GMT

Sean, I love how you encapsulate wisdom!

Love,

Nicole

Re: Right and Wrong

http://SilentTemple.gaia.com — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:21:07 GMT

I feel every person has a natural place in the ecology of things. The question is, What is natural for us at any given time and stage? We can become forced or we can go with the flow.

I got a feel for this by talking to Eveleen. I once asked her about a certain social activist. She said, "I let others do that. I work with the individual. That is where I can make change - in the trenches. "
For each of us, a natural place is awaiting. Also, that place can change.

Re: Right and Wrong

http://mimibyrd.gaia.com — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 16:48:10 GMT

I think this little bit of wisdom received in my e-mail today fits in here--

"Little by little a person becomes evil, as a water pot is filled by drops of water...
Little by little a person becoms good, as a water pot is filled by drops of water."

~Buddha~ (563-483BC)
Source: The Dhammapada

Be good/do good. What to do? Do what benefits ALL - that would be the Right thing.

namaste
mimi

Re: Right and Wrong

http://kevinsworld.gaia.com — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 01:12:23 GMT

I have learned a lot today about right and wrong and I am beggining to understand your points more clearly...

Re: Right and Wrong

http://kevinsworld.gaia.com — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 07:54:47 GMT

taking both of your advice, I had a nice, small meditation tonight and it did save me from much uneeded suffering. I still think some things deserve thinking about, it is just important to know when to clear my mind and let be what is. =)

Love Kevin