Gaia: Spiral Dynamics tag:gaia.com,2008,:Gaia http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/discussions/feeds/pod/86 en-us 20 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:50:30 GMT Gaia: Spiral Dynamics Believing in Britain -Crisis of Brtish Identity http://voyager.gaia.com Albert tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-489117 Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:50:30 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/489117 <p> An excellent blog entry from Rachel Castagne. At the newly launched &quot;Right to be&quot; blog which is asscociated with British Centre for Human Emergence.<br /><br /><a href="http://voyager.gaia.com/blog/2009/10/believing-in-britian--crisis-of-british-identity">Believing in Britain -Crisis of Brtish Identity</a> </p> Re: New CHE-UK Blog http://voyager.gaia.com Albert tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-488294 Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:24:32 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/488033#488294 <p> Thanks Om!:):)<br /><br />After looong struggles in Germany we will start-viy inviation- a German speaking NIng group about SDi in the future. I will co-moderate it.<br /><br />In contrast to Anglo American language sphere its a daily challenge for us Germans to communicate and translate nealry simultaneously in two directions. Even those of us who have lived and worked in English speaking countries confess something -roundabout 30 percent of lingual distinctions are lost in this process.<br /><br />However I decided in 2006 to start here at Gaia. I am not blogging at this moment in German. And I decided to do it within a community dedicated to change the world.<br /><br />Nearly no continuous participation from more than 5 people of Germany.&nbsp;can be detected here. Europeans in toto are a fraction with small numbers only.<br /><br />The understanding of integrated f2f comunication and online collaboration is here, in Germany in its infancy.<br /><br />On the other side the world of CEO`s. consultants, cultural leaders and media leaders. They have not grasped the growing power of community and we-forms of communication. There is still a certain form of arrogance regarding these nexus. These guys will have to learn and upgrade their knowledge of the world(s) considerably next years.<br /><br />Integral poltics and large scale systems change will be my focus next years. However connected with personal growth and highly individual ways of unleashing ones potential. AS CHE UK is intending too. We had this summer excellent discussions at London Integral Circle about emerging developments.<br /><br />This virtual (and for Londoners real) yahoo group with roundabout 450 members from Europe, USA, Australia New zealand, is a very relevant platform for me. As it is really concerned for spreading deep and broad change globall. While making fully use of regional and local specifics.<br /><br />The time has come to go into leadership in most various roles. Not only as pundits, gurus and thinkers. But as entreprenurs, individuals with courage and boldness, as women at the edge in dynamic polarity with men at the edge. As people who can act within the mainstream and within the subcultures. As grassroots, individualists and on the stages as much as behind the scenes...<br /><br />And it can be dangerous too. Brutally demanding. Want to remember what a former teacher (for a short time) of me said. It was Kalrfried Graf Dürkheim. Its true for me for men as much as for women:<br /><br />The Way of Transformation:<br /><br />The man who, being really on the Way, falls upon hard times in the world will not, as a consequence, turn to that friend who offers him refuge and comfort and encourages his old self to survive. <br />Rather, he will seek out someone who will faithfully and inexorably help him to risk himself, so that he may endure the suffering and pass courageously through it, thus making of it a &quot;raft that leads to the far shore.&quot; <br />Only to the extent that man exposes himself over and over again to annihilation, can that which is indestructible arise within him. In this lies the dignity of daring. Thus, the aim of <em>(spiritual)</em> practice is not to develop an attitude which allows a man to acquire a state of harmony and peace wherein nothing can ever trouble him. On the contrary, practice should teach him to let himself be assaulted, perturbed, moved, insulted, broken and battered - that is to say, it should enable him to dare to let go his futile hankering after harmony, surcease from pain, and a comfortable life in order that he may discover, in doing battle with the forces that oppose him, that which awaits him beyond the world of opposites.<br />The first necessity is that we should have the courage to face life, and to encounter all that is most perilous in the world. When this is possible, meditation itself becomes the means by which we accept and welcome the demons which arise from the unconscious, a process very different from the practice of concentration on some object as a protection against such forces.<br />Only if we venture repeatedly through zones of annihilation can our contact with Divine Being, which is beyond annihilation, become firm and stable. The more a man learns whole-heartedly to confront the world that threatens him with isolation, the more are the depths of the Ground of Being revealed and the possibilities of New Life and Becoming opened.&quot; </p> Re: New CHE-UK Blog http://ADLIAC.gaia.com 1Vector3 tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-488057 Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:35:54 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/488033#488057 <p> I popped right on down the rabbit hole, and it was such an exciting bunch of discoveries!!!! Thank you a million times, Albert. I like the nice things that were said about you, too. Most people here in Gaia don&#39;t realize who you are!!<br /><br />I am thrilled about all these SD and Integral initiatives to help improve the world. I am in total support!!<br /><br />Hugs,<br />OM Bastet </p> New CHE-UK Blog http://voyager.gaia.com Albert tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-488033 Sun, 11 Oct 2009 06:45:59 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/488033 <p> <a href="http://voyager.gaia.com/blog/2009/10/right-to-be">Right To Be</a> </p> Re: Invitation to Euroconfab 2009 in UK http://voyager.gaia.com Albert tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-484833 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:14:40 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/484815#484833 <p> Dear Om,<br /><br />mobilizing the fourth instinct:) (Arianna Huffington) in Europe is a multi facetted challenge. This year the CHE-UK was launched, while the German one is still under the radar screen. I am in contact with its very small core group and we will notice what happens there while focusing on a sustainable working process -which includes right now as much smart work as hard work! -for Germany. <br /><br />We in Germany have consensus right now that its less about congresses, big meetings and seminars and meetings but very, very focused, commited and pragmatic work in small groups. With highly specialized functions and responsible contributions to supraordinate goals. Taking care of each other and embody the biggest boldness from within such core groups which cares for individual growth and wealth/health as much as for collective purposes.<br /><br />A communication space will be created in near future.<br /><br />For me personally the times before big meeetings and after them is often neglected. The first 48 hours after every congress shows a radical decline regularly.&nbsp; Start Up entrepreneurs of all kind know what momentum means in the first 90 days of a company or project.<br /><br />To develop such momentum in this specific context it takes much. In an article about Meshworks foundations this quote from Don Beck is important:<br /><br />&quot;In the Seventh emerging category of Foundations, Dr. Beck talks about the &quot;Third Win Purpose&quot; ... &quot;a foundation that possesses an uncanny ability to morph itself to find rapport, identify with, and shape itself to connect with a number of different organizations, interest groups, political groupings,and professional .societies...&quot;<br /><br />Before the third Win Purpose can be manifested the simply win-win attitude needs to come to life within all members of the core groups. In a country with lots of tribal gaps, hidden ideology&nbsp; still and pre orange blocks this needs to be acclomplished right now:):)even in integral...<br />Best,<br />Albert </p> Re: Invitation to Euroconfab 2009 in UK http://ADLIAC.gaia.com 1Vector3 tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-484830 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:49:12 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/484815#484830 <p> Wow, I hope this gets some folks to go. I am drooling, of course.....<br /><br />Blessings, OM Bastet </p> Rory Stewart about Life Conditions in Afghanistan http://voyager.gaia.com Albert tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-484823 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:14:00 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/484823 <p> Forewarded from Ben Levi, founder of SDi Yahoo list:<br /><br /><a href="http://voyager.gaia.com/blog/2009/9/afghanistan-and-complex-systemic-change">Interview with Rory Stewart about Afghanistan</a><br /><br />Albert </p> Invitation to Euroconfab 2009 in UK http://voyager.gaia.com Albert tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-484815 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:51:14 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/484815 <p> <p align="left">EUROCONFAB&nbsp; 23-25 OCTOBER 2009<br /></p><br />We have an exciting line up of international speakers including Dr Don Beck; Michael Strong of &#39;Be the Solution&#39; who will describe the future of Conscious Capitalism; Marilyn Hamilton talking on the future of our urban habitats; Mike Jay with his radical perspectives on the future of Europe; Peter Merry of &#39;Evolutionary Leadership&#39;; Morel Fourman showing us how to create transformative systems that facilitate effective collaboration; Jon Freeman who will be mapping out the Science of Conscious Evolution.&nbsp; Last but not least we have just secured the presence of&nbsp;<br /><br />Nick Drummond,the founder of Nordic Integral who works as a Leadership trainer in education, from preschools to universities. He is co-author of &#39;Order and Discipline in the School: One step on the Path to Dynamic Harmony in the Classroom&#39;.<br /><br /><br />Nick will present his experience in developing tools for creating positive change and meaningful development in teaching and learning. Nick will show how we can help teachers, pupils and parents transcend a care for horizontal egalitarianism and narcissism to include a care for vertical development and higher purpose along the Spiral. The tools are now being used in schools in Sweden, USA, England and Denmark, with extraordinary results.&nbsp; He will co-present with Joan Berland, an experienced teacher in America, who has been using the models and demonstrating the transformative power and potential behind them.<br />&nbsp;<br /><br />Are you surrounded by cynicism and pessimistic thinking?&nbsp;&nbsp; Or do you believe that we can create the future we want for our children (and ourselves)?<br /><br /><br />Come and join us for a weekend with an exceptional group of individuals who dare to think and believe that what we think matters, that how we see the problems and challenges of our current economic and global crises actually affects the answers and solutions that we have access to...<br /><br /><br />This will be an exciting weekend in a beautiful location near Gatwick - generating conversations that matter and accessing the resources of our collective wisdom for the journey ahead<br />What&#39;s more, if you register and pay before 6th October there&#39;s still time to take advantage of the &#39;late&#39; earlybird ticket<br /><br /><br />This weekend is hosted by Center for Human Emergence- UK and is open to everyone, though the official &#39;language&#39; will be Spiral Dynamics Integral. &nbsp;&nbsp;If this is totally new to you, we suggest you seriously consider coming to the level 1 training in London 19th-21st October, which may well be the last level 1 training taught by Dr Don Beck in the UK.<br /><br /><br /><br />Looking forward to seeing you there.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Rachel Castagne<br /><br /><a href="http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102733416242&amp;s=208&amp;e=001Z2140H_mNwuFAHSBQcmoSXhdo9XP7EvmGhyx6WC7yPaa65fZ0o85u93lrS2lfNiBkTgUpUkENixcjcOSEPzI5pQ09TULiOpJUcfgS8o8g8u2KOazikLNFq4NpkhHJLgvZnLB8jmIwE0_AdZaW7WXlw==" title="http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?et=1102733416242&amp;s=208&amp;e=001Z2140H_mNwuFAHSBQcmoSXhdo9XP7EvmGhyx6WC7yPaa65fZ0o85u93lrS2lfNiBkTgUpUkENixcjcOSEPzI5pQ09TULiOpJUcfgS8o8g8u2KOazikLNFq4NpkhHJLgvZnLB8jmIwE0_AdZaW7WXlw==" target="_blank">http://www.humanemergence.org.uk/html/events.htm</a><br /><br />&nbsp; </p> Re: SEMINAR Integral Leadership for Sustainable Evolution, 4-9 Au http://AnoukA.gaia.com AnoukA tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-452737 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:32:30 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/449964#452737 <p> Thanks a lot, that is great!<br />Anouk </p> Sdi in London: From Rule Britannia to Cool Britannia to Integral http://voyager.gaia.com Albert tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-452632 Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:00:14 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/452632 <p> <a href="http://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/events_diary.html" target="_blank">Sdi in London: From Rule Britannia to Cool Britannia to Integral Britannia</a><br />&nbsp;<br /><br />The June 2-day workshop is a significant build on the March workshop - more relevant, with more time for participation and interactions on the core themes. <br /><br />&nbsp;<br /><br />Schedule<br /><br />Day One: &nbsp;Large-Scale Psychology: The Design, Change and Transformation of Whole Societies<br /><br />While the conceptual model and process are derived in large part from the most advanced version of Spiral Dynamics currently available, it will also include insights<br /><br />from a number of different disciplines and experiences.<br /><br />&nbsp;<br /><br />This includes a useful presentation by Don Beck on the nature of change, shifts, transitions and transformation. The dynamics of change FROM what and TO what<br /><br />will be explored, and we will analyse the process and principles of how cultures adapt, change, conflict, and even collapse.<br /><br />&nbsp;<br /><br />You will learn about:-<br /><br /><br />the massive South African transformation strategy out of Apartheid<br />the Dutch method of dealing with threats from radical fundamentalism<br />the current Iceland strategy to recover from financial disaster<br />innovative programs to defuse conflict in Israel-Palestine through a Hong Kong of the Middle East vision<br />new approaches to “Transpartisanship” through the use of innovative MeshWORKS technology<br />the design of a Vital Signs Monitor for Singapore (the Risk Analysis Horizontal Scanning project). &nbsp;<br /><br />Closer to home, you will see how this process was used to deal with the regeneration issues in a Yorkshire former coal mining village and school - the <a href="http://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/hemsmesh.html" target="_blank">HemsMESH</a> project.<br /><br />&nbsp;<br /><br />Don Beck was the first to bring the work of <a href="http://www.integratedsociopsychology.net/graves_model.html" target="_blank">Clare W Graves</a> to the UK in the late 1970s. He played a major role in the South African transformation, and was named<br /><br />“philosopher-activist for the 21st Century” by EnlightenNext magazine. He currently leads transformational efforts in a number of countries and societies around the<br /><br />world. (See also <a href="http://www.spiraldynamics.net/" target="_blank">www.spiraldynamics.net</a>)<br /><br />&nbsp;<br /><br />Day Two: A Quest for the Unique Cultural ‘DNA’ of British Society: What should be Preserved for the 21st Century?<br /><br />This will be a highly participatory day, led by UK citizens.<br /><br />&nbsp;<br /><br />Lynne Sedgmore will give a “State of the Kingdom” address; Christopher ‘Cookie’ Cooke and others will take the lead in generating conversations on selective topics, ranging from education, to transition towns and sustainability, to youth behaviours, to organisational effectiveness, to cultural assimilation, to health care issues, to law<br /><br />enforcement actions, and to threats from radical extremism. Jon Freeman, Rosemary Wilkie, Rachel Castagne, and myself, all certified in Spiral Dynamics, will assume active leadership roles.<br /><br />&nbsp;<br /><br />This is not a one-off event but, we believe, will result in a series of summits around the country on critical issues of the day. The intent at the Regent’s Summit is to<br /><br />identify the key issues and begin to develop resources. </p> Re: SEMINAR Integral Leadership for Sustainable Evolution, 4-9 Au http://ADLIAC.gaia.com 1Vector3 tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-450247 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:05:39 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/449964#450247 <p> Thanks for the info. I copied this to the Seattle (WA, USA) Integral online forum.&nbsp;<br /><br />Blessings, OM Bastet </p> SEMINAR Integral Leadership for Sustainable Evolution, 4-9 Aug NL http://AnoukA.gaia.com AnoukA tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-449964 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:16:26 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/449964 <p> Dear colleaues,<br />Please consider spreading the word about or attending this amazing seminar for emerging leaders and change makers. You&#39;re welcome!<br /><br />Are you awake?
<br />Are you on a mission?
<br />Do you have a big ego and an even bigger heart?<br /><br />This seminar serves the evolution of emerging leaders all over the globe. Everyone, entrepreneurs, artists, managers, teachers, trainers, technicians and consultants,&nbsp; are welcome to join us from August 4th to 9th, 2009 in the Netherlands!<br /><br />Keywords: integral leadership, integral, Ken Wilber, sustainability, evolution, innovation, triple-p, cradle to cradle, C2C, green technology, integral theory, Ervin Laszlo, Herman Wijffels<br /><br />Your trainers will be Clint Fuhs, Irini Rockwell, Barrett Brown, …<br /><br /><a href="http://www.experienceintegral.org" target="_blank">http://www.experienceintegral.org</a><br /><a href="http://events.linkedin.com/Integral-Leadership-Sustainable/pub/77440" target="_blank">http://events.linkedin.com/Integral-Leadership-Sustainable/pub/77440</a><br /><br /><br />Our PURPOSE for this event is to assist emerging leaders and change agents worldwide (consultants, politicians, artists, bankers, students, entrepreneurs, etc) with taking the next step in their contribution to a sustainable evolution on our planet.<br /><br />We do this by:<br />- facilitating the emergence of personal purpose and reflection on talents,<br />- by offering the tools and the latest applications of theory in the fields of leadership and sustainability and<br />- by creating a welcoming space that invites you to to let go and grow together. <br /><br />We are really excited about the seminar and how it is coming together. It is going to be an amazing experience for all of us.<br /><div style="margin-bottom: 0.5em;"> <a href="http://bbg-aura.gaia.com/photos/52/511992/large/experienceintegral_square_logo.jpg"></a></div> </p> Re: good spiral dynamics test? http://wabisabi.gaia.com Richard tag:gaia.com,2009:Gaia-391273 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:53:02 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/157727#391273 <p> <p><font color="#625d5d">Turil,</font></p> <p><font color="#625d5d">Your site is beautiful. lots of content and nice design and layout. Thanks!</font></p> <p><font color="#625d5d">Richard<br /> </font></p> </p> Re: A Spiral/Integral Dating test for you all! http://turil.gaia.com turtle tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-344783 Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:55:12 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/344459#344783 <p> So what would you suggest for making my test better, in your eyes?<br /><br />My goal is mostly fun, but also to offer people an opportunity to think a bit more about who they are, and to introduce people to my own Spiral Growth Theory (whichis solidly based on Integral/Spiral Dynamics/Maslow&#39;s hierarchy and some others.<br /><br />Peace, love, and bicycles,<br />Turil<br /> </p> Re: A Spiral/Integral Dating test for you all! http://neri-bar-on.gaia.com Neri tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-344777 Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:46:03 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/344459#344777 <p> Hi turtle<br /><br />&nbsp;I only recognized that it is not simple to have useful tests, the simpe 1 out of 4 questions make a lot of the practical wisdom of SDi not to be accessed.<br /><br />&nbsp;for exposing our multi level cultural/world view &quot;DNA&quot; we can think of some simple tests.<br /><br />Do you wish to educate about SDi or to help people find their match?<br /><br /><br /> </p> Re: A Spiral/Integral Dating test for you all! http://turil.gaia.com turtle tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-344752 Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:25:24 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/344459#344752 <p> I&#39;m a little confused, Neri.&nbsp; What are you suggesting?&nbsp; Is there something that you&#39;d like to see different about the test?<br /><br />I was hoping to offer three different stage results (one for the physical development line, one for emotional development, and one for intellectual development) but the quiz software didn&#39;t allow that, unfortunately, so I just stuck with the intellectual, with the other two lines being factored in a bit, for the final result.&nbsp; And. I wanted people to be able to select as many of the possible answers as they wanted, but that wasn&#39;t an option for this form of test.&nbsp; Which is why I gave the slightly unusual direction to pick the highest numbered answer that was appropriate.&nbsp; If I ever have more time to spend redesigning the test, I&#39;d like to make it so that you can choose as many options as you want, since we&#39;ve included the previous levels into our current one.<br /><br />Of course, this test is no more accurate than any other self administered psychology test (including the one I took from SDI). :-)<br /><br />This mostly just gives you something to think about and play with.&nbsp; Though I would like to make the wording as clear as possible, so that they questions really do represent the levels as well as our messy human language is capable of! :-)<br /><br />So yeah, if you have specific suggestions, I&#39;d love to hear them.<br /> </p> Re: A Spiral/Integral Dating test for you all! http://neri-bar-on.gaia.com Neri tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-344654 Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:12:50 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/344459#344654 <p> Dear wise Turtle<br /><br />&nbsp;One of the issues of SDi is that the VMemes are not monolithic, and the questions has complexity, so people can be attracted to several messages (as I did when I looked in your questioneer).<br /><br />&nbsp;The original tests I see developed by Dr. Beck and others use a &quot;vector&quot; of wheights to measure the different attractions we have to the different VMeme by this methode we get more accurare image of our inner structure.<br /><br />&nbsp;As all this tests are dealing with subjective reference (the attraction judgment happens inside us) this tests always need some behaviour evaluation.<br /><br />It is possible I think to have questneers to be more focus on specific &quot;foot print&quot; that will make the match, but you will need more information on the content of the VMeme and not just of the dominant Vmemes.<br /><br /><br />&nbsp;<br /> </p> A Spiral/Integral Dating test for you all! http://turil.gaia.com turtle tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-344459 Sat, 27 Sep 2008 18:26:20 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/344459 <p> I created a developmental theory test (based on Spiral Dynamics, AQAL,&nbsp; Maslow&#39;s Hierarchy of Need, and my own Spiral Growth Theory and stuck it on the smart people&#39;s dating/match-making website OKCupid.&nbsp; You don&#39;t have to be a member of OK Cupid to take the test though, so everyone can enjoy it.<br /><br />Let me know what you think.&nbsp; It&#39;s my first attempt, and I need some feedback from folks who really understand the levels well.<br /><br />I&#39;d like to add some more advice to the results pages, but for now, I just wanted to get the basics in there.<br /><br />Try it out!&nbsp; <br /><br /><a href="http://www.helloquizzy.com/tests/the-spiraling-upwards-test" target="_blank" title="The Spiral Growth Theory test">The Spiraling Upwards Test</a><br /><br />Peace, Love, and Bicycles,<br />-Turil<br /> </p> SDi in Politics & Corporate Fascism http://profundity.gaia.com profundity tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-337897 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 10:57:52 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/337897 <p> Jesse wrote:<br /><blockquote>Integral Life has a forum discussing the very topic right now.&nbsp; Check it out.&nbsp; <a href="http://IntegralLife.com/">http://IntegralLife.com</a><br />&nbsp;<br />Obama&#39;s integral message isn&#39;t quite hitting home with pre-orange and green altitudes, in my opinion.&nbsp; This is why the Republican ticket has any support in the first place.&nbsp; This leads me to believe that his center of developmental gravity is green.&nbsp; if he were to fully embrace lower developmental structures, and integral inclination, then his language would be more appealing to them.<br />&nbsp;<br />We, as integral thinkers, need to do everything we can to get in touch with our own lower levels of development values and listen for what it is that we are needing to hear.&nbsp; Then we can more effectively meet the frustrations of those levels in our communications with them. <br />&nbsp;<br />Most likely, we can do this through shadow work.&nbsp; What happens when we do shadow work with Republicanism.&nbsp; I did this, and came upon some astonishing insights.&nbsp; That got me thinking about all sorts of issues in less charged ways. <br />&nbsp;<br />One thing I thought of that would be super cool would be if Obama invited McCain to serve on his cabinet during a debate.&nbsp; This would serve the purpose of helping Obama to understand the right wing better as he governs.&nbsp; He would be able to take that perspective into consideration much more accurately by having a right wing advisor close to him.&nbsp; Keep your enemies close as they say.<br />&nbsp;<br />Basically, though, the biggest question I have in my mind is this:&nbsp; When we&#39;re in touch with the consciousness in our lower levels of development and we listen to Obama, what are we not hearing that leaves us frustrated?&nbsp; If we can answer this question, then we can help Obama and his campaign and our Dem ticket pushing communicate to the on-the-fense voters out there.<br />&nbsp;<br />Hope this helps, and looking forward to fleshing out this idea with you all.<br />&nbsp;<br />Jesse<br /></blockquote><br />Thank you to Jesse (from the Integral Obama mail-list) for the <a href="http://IntegralLife.com/">http://IntegralLife.com</a> link, that was very helpful.&nbsp; However, a link to the specific part of the website that you were referring to in regard to an Integral Obama message would be greatly appreciated as all but one of the <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=site%253Aintegrallife.com+obama&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t" target="_blank">Google search results for Obama on IntegralLife.com</a> were negatively-oriented (like, &quot;Is Obama the Anti-Christ?&quot;).&nbsp; If I missed any integral concepts or issues below please do not hesitate to point them out to me, either publicly or privately.&nbsp; I tend to take a more practical approach to my explanations of things but I try to use integral languaging where it seems most appropriate.&nbsp; I did find value in watching this video that attempts to begin to explain Integral Political Challenges.<br /><br /> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQRUu_4W2j8<br /> <br />One of the main serious issues as I see it is the need to communicate exactly WHY a homogenized mostly non-essential-activity-based society is being FORCED upon the majority of people by the so-called globalists who sincerely want a one-world frame of perspective as a means of providing an overall peaceful environment.&nbsp; However, in this pursuit they seek to bring a lowest-common-denominator mentality to the masses which appears to be effectively neutering or otherwise rendering impotent people who are or may become potential enlightened individuals.&nbsp; Turquoise and above conscious awareness has no practical application of such awareness in a &quot;dumbed-down&quot; paradigm, i.e. no useful language to communicate such an awareness.&nbsp; Such an awareness exists in and of itself in each individual who happens to develop it, mostly by accident or at best by extremely rare syncronicity.&nbsp; Those such self-identified individuals of us need to figure out how to communicate integral concepts in non-integral languaging which kind of seems like a paradox to me.<br /><br />I understand that in order to have peace that you need to speak in a style of language that the majority of people can understand.&nbsp; However, the very process of attempting to communicate in such a green language appears to be forcing people to be green people and hence adopt an actual green mentality or way of thinking.&nbsp; At that point such people are virtually lost until they somehow find a way to wake up again.<br /><br />Obama tends to speak so intelligently that the Republicans/Neocons are able to make fun of him in the media and therefore lessen his inspirational messages.<br /><br />How can &quot;we&quot; as integral communicators assist Obama in understanding this challenging dynamic and still have him help Americans do the right thing?<br /><br />Clare Graves, Don Beck, and Ken Wilber did a great job of defining and effectively communicating the challenge in a useful manner/language/semantics however it is up to ALL of us to figure out the soulution.<br /><br />Sometimes it is depressing knowing how things really work but being unable to communicate with people who really need to know how things really work (i.e. the truth about life/nature).&nbsp; Is it any wonder why some powerful (ADHD/Bi-Polar/Borderline?) people give up attempting to communicate and simply treat the green majority as sheeple?&nbsp; Psychological awareness began around 3,000 B.C. as philosophy however the so-called science of psychology only began about 200 years ago.&nbsp; What does that tell you about hidden psychology (esoteric wisdom) and how long certain groups of people who understood this wisdom have been actively shepherding virtually the whole of humanity by utilizing the principle of psychological leverage from the essential beginning of time?&nbsp; So, how do we as the new enlightenment deal with such a long-term force?&nbsp; The saying of, &quot;May The Force Be With You&quot; begins to take on a whole new meaning in regard to the hidden yet human forces for good.<br /><br />We do it by having the Obama Campaign attempt to communicate with that ancient wisdom tradition/force by explaining our understanding of certain key principles openly in the media.&nbsp; This is quite literally a prayer to &quot;G&quot; (not necessarily THE God but a wide range of groups of people literally and effectively acting as gods on Earth or &quot;The Force&quot;).<br /><br />There is an aspect of socialism, or the needs and desires of the many, that can not be ignored as well as an aspect of corporate fascism, the needs and desires of the powerfully-intelligent few, that also can not be ignored (a case of rocks and hard places or unstoppable forces and immovable objects).&nbsp; This is why we have ONLY two major political parties in the United States.&nbsp; These two yin-yang / green-red elements are so immense that they have BOTH chosen to make a bargain, one very obvious demonstration of which was Democratic Majority Leader Pelosi agreeing NOT to impeach President Bush for OBVIOUS legal infractions (both the 9/11 events as well as the Iraq events and subverting both the people as well as the Constitution of the United States).&nbsp; EACH side needs to get some of its way from time to time in order for there to be a balance-of-power.&nbsp; Both are both so-called good and evil depending upon which side you choose to be on.&nbsp; This dynamic has also resulted in both the U.S. and Great Britain being friends with both Israel as well as Arabia, a partial history of which can be found here:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/hp/hparabian.htm">http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/hegel/works/hp/hparabian.htm</a><br /><br />So, there is an inherent inability for the Democratic (as well as Republican) Party to be as honest and upfront as they would like to be.&nbsp; Due to this balance-of-power Obama is literally prohibited from providing actual solutions that seem obvious for those of us who are paying close attention to what is actually going on.&nbsp; Money is NOT the issue because money can either be printed or debts otherwise forgiven to create it.&nbsp; Plus, with the advent of electronic currency and credit money does not even need to be printed anymore.&nbsp; Who to THEY think that THEY are fooling?&nbsp; Who do WE as integral-minded people actually communicate with to say, &quot;HEY!&nbsp; ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!&quot; (loud, NOT angry).&nbsp; There was enough money for an absurdly-expensive Iraq war but NOT enough money to deal with the environment that would cost a lot LESS money to deal with?!<br /><br />Hopefully one of you reading this will forward this message to one of the secret few who will actually know who to advise about such issues and this prayer will ultimately reach one of the ancient wisdom gods here on Earth who has the power to actually do something that actually makes sense.<br /><br />Thank you.<br /><br />P.S.&nbsp; Here is a response from someone who read the above message outside of GAIA.com...<br /><br />Forwarded message...<br /><br />Purple People Power, I very much enjoyed your synopsis of the challenges of communicating an integral perspective in everyday language. We were inspired to follow an inspired vision and create an integral multimedia thoughtform combining positive music and Obama&#39;s powerful message of self responsibility &quot;it&#39;s about you!&quot; to promote the &quot;YES WE CAN&quot; movement. Please check it out and pass it on if you feel so moved.<br /><br /> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK1LZ_eILSA<br id="ze_clear_96877" class="ze_clear" style="clear: both" /><br />What do you think? </p> Re: Spiral Dynamics and Personality-Soul Typologies http://ADLIAC.gaia.com 1Vector3 tag:gaia.com,2008:Gaia-316930 Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:16:04 GMT http://groups.gaia.com/spiraldynamics/conversations/view/270422#316930 <p> I promise not to mention Marmy-poo on the GN Feature..... hahahahaha !!!!<br /><br />Chance has brought me back to this thread, and I see you asked about the typology I have studied the most. Took some internet searching but here is the book I was referring to, I got the author&#39;s name wrong it&#39;s Humphry Osmond, with 2 co-authors John A. Osmundsen and Jerome Agel, and the title indeed is <em>Understanding Understanding</em>.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?title=Understanding+understanding&amp;titlex=Understanding+Understanding&amp;author=Osmond%2C+Humphry%2C+and+Osmundsen%2C+John+A.&amp;authorx=Humphrey+Osmond">http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?title=Understanding+understanding&amp;titlex=Understanding+Understanding&amp;author=Osmond%2C+Humphry%2C+and+Osmundsen%2C+John+A.&amp;authorx=Humphrey+Osmond</a> <br /><br />There are just four types: Sensation, Thinking, Feeling, Intuitive, with extravert and intravert for both. People are classified by their top and second, and I or E. I immersed myself in it, with several friends, and we lived and breathed it for several years, so it got deep into my psyche... <br /><br />There are many more fundamental (and thus more powerful) typologies I have discovered since then -- the Enneagram, left-right brain, Cosmic Essences, and Spiral Dynamics&nbsp;-- but this was my first introduction to the concept of &quot;experiential world&quot; so it was foundational to my thinking ever since then, 1974-ish (I think we discovered it when it was quite new.)<br /><br />I never bothered to learn the Jungian system this one is based on....<br /><br />Thanks for all the many links. I look forward to when the Flow brings me to explore them !<br /><br />Blessings, OM Bastet </p>