I am getting ready to run my daily 10 miler and as I approach the real difficult miles, 8-10, sometimes 6-10!, I will start breathing that physical pain right smack dab into the middle of my heart while breathing out the blessed bliss of inward stillness that only the non-grasping mind can achieve (which I seem to be able to do somewhat well while in the throes of aerobic stress). I give this to All of You Freely. As Freely I was given it, please Freely recieve. The only way that I know how to keep something that is precious and real, is to give it away! Pay it forward Folks!
Bountiful Blessings,
Erik
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tonglenkate said Mar 15, 2006, 8:18 AM: |
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First, I would like to describe, in brief, the practice of tonglen. It is a meditation technique that involves breathing IN pain and breathing OUT peace. When I first heard of it it was counterintuitive to me. It is amazing. When I get stuck or upset at anything or anyone. I breath in that pain and breathe out peace. It is sometimes hard and took some time getting used to but it has been well worth it. We are all much less likely to pass around pain if we have to eat it. I believe this practice alone could change the world. It just takes being brave enough to find the places that scare or bother us. I would also love people to post here other meditation or ILP techniques because I am not really familiar with much else and just recently found out what ILP stood for. I would also like to explore how Tonglen or these other practices can help us tap into the universal conciousness which enables us to have spontaneous intelligence. Basically subduing our ego, so we can feel and see and hear and know what paths we are to take in this life. And let ourselves take them, even if they look different than expected. And how this relates to morphic resonance, Kinesiology, and Fractals…. |
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Re: tonglenDrZ said Apr 16, 2006, 12:25 PM: |
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Wow… I'd never heard of Tonglen until I joined this pod, but it seems pretty cool. I tried it out, and it was amazing how charged I felt the first time. I do wonder, though, what the effects of soaking up all that pain are. It felt like I was just changing the shape and rebroadcasing the energy I was taking in, but I'd like to verify if it leaves any residual traces that would build up over time. |
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Re: tonglenPat said Apr 16, 2006, 7:24 PM: |
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I'm fortunate to work as a psychologist. So I have lots of opportunity for tonglen. I think that when I conceptualized the world as a place with lots of negative energy that I had to ward off or fight, that I created more negativity. Letting go of fighting it off was helpful, but the big breakthrough for me was in doing the opposite (since trying to fight it off was not working too well.) |
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Re: tongleneBuzz said Apr 17, 2006, 12:00 AM: |
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Kate! |
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Re: tonglenPat said Apr 17, 2006, 6:23 AM: |
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Thank you for the reminder that it is about the cultivation of Bhodicitta not just “doing the opposite” so I can feel better. If practiced with the right attitude tonglen is at the core of cultivating right practice. |
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Re: tongleneBuzz said Apr 17, 2006, 12:14 PM: |
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Certainly Pat! At work or play alot and strapped for time? Have a frazzled work-a-day existence on top of being a doting Soccer Mom/Dad? Try this two minute ethereal power lunch! Sit with good posture and eyes closed. Take three deep belly-breaths in while visualizing all the Light of the Universe coming into the top of Your head and breathing out the tranquil stillness Your mind “craves” to the whole of Your percieved world. Do this with a non-grasping mind and You got Tonglen! It's like pushing the pause button on Your world's remote! Try it and tell me how You feel. If it doesn't work for You We'll tweek it until it does. I do not live in a 0ne-Size-Fits-Most World!
Love, Light and Blessings, Erik |
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Re: tonglenkate said Apr 19, 2006, 6:30 AM: |
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You know, one night I was doing an intense meditation session for about 12 hours or so and I did tonglen for a long time and felt so sad that I kept crying for half of the next day. I felt as if I had taken on too much. But later I felt very calm and okay with what I had faced and had enough energy to implement new healthy things into my everyday life. I think in the midst I felt like I took too much on but in reality I was just processing pain from my life and it opened up energy to move on and be a more compassionate sensitive person. My friend Martha has a technique that helps her if she is feeling saturated and that is to breath in peace and breathe out peace. That is her way of being kind to herself. It is a nice way to take care of you so you can have enough energy to take care of whoever( for us it's our families). |
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Re: tonglene c said Apr 17, 2006, 12:33 PM: |
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Commenting on my two years of practice I can only say how powerfully tapped into the Matrix I feel now. Pop-culture ref aside … I’m studying and practicing as a Reiki II practitioner and it is completely an additive experience of personal transcendence. Burning through karma, Tonglen practice gives me a rush of energy and support … and pumps karma with focused pain giving it an amazing release. A realm nearly indescribable in words. |
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Tonglen and MettaHuanchu Daoren said Apr 17, 2006, 7:07 PM: |
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The great thing about Tonglen, I think, is it takes our conditioned attitudes that keep us comfortable and “siloed-in” and stands them on their head. In our conditioned mode we're always wanting to turn left or right, always wanting to label, seeking some kind of resolution to help us feel at ease, setting up territory in which we can feel safe. Why? Because deep down we are uncomfortable with situations of ambiguity and unformedness.
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Re: Tonglen and Mettakate said Apr 19, 2006, 6:37 AM: |
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Metta is wonderful. It seems alot like tonglen. I have never heard of it before. Thanks. |
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Re: Tonglen and MettaeBuzz said Apr 19, 2006, 1:06 PM: |
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Here is a recent posting on my blog and an oath that I swore before a statue of the Lord Buddha to do at least six days a week! Cardio Tonglen! |
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Re: tonglenMadrona said Apr 24, 2006, 12:58 AM: |
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That concept rings very true for me. |
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Re: tongleneBuzz said Apr 24, 2006, 10:07 PM: |
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I thought this was beautiful and No One could have said better than one of My favorite Teachers, Pema Chodron. ON-THE-SPOT TONGLEN PRACTICE Transforming Confusion into WisdomCity Retreat | Berkeley Shambhala Center Fall 1999 Student: [mic didn't work –it's a question about difficulty breathing in tonglen practice] Pema: Well, this is obviously a pretty common question. So, really it?s one of the reasons that I stress doing tonglen on the spot. Because, as I say, somehow on the spot, you get more of a feeling about what's really going on. That, really, things are closed down, and breathing in is opening, and sending out is opening. And, it's as if everything is closing in on you, and you just take an attitude that you could be here and you could open to what's happening. So, yes, you can definitely get this feeling of your throat closing down. I think it would just be acknowledging that, and acknowledging that a lot of people find themselves in that situation. Then you might feel when you breathe out —they say give equal time to the in and out breath— but it doesn't feel so real. But, if you think of that breathing in as opening, and sending out as opening, then maybe you don't have to get too worried about which is in and which is out. Except, it's important to keep breathing, and it's important to keep breathing in and out! Otherwise, you're dead. Right? And, unlike sitting meditation, you can exaggerate the breaths. Breathing deeply in, and then, equally deeply, sending out. I think a lot of that is helped by being able to acknowledge the panic and open your heart— make your whole being open enough, as if you became the sky, and just open to it. And as somebody said, There's no place, really, for it to get stuck. Because it's not like a cannon ball that you're breathing in. It's really a tendency to clutch that you're reversing. It's a tendency to close down and tighten your belly and tighten your whole being, that you're almost physically relaxing to it, as you breathe in. And then, you send that out. In fact, one of the things that's very valuable about Linda Jones' little handbook is she gives many, many different translations of the slogans from a lot of these different books. She gives her personal commentary and also from different people, and she said that there are three or four teachers who actually recommend that you can work for awhile just with in breath, and then work just with out breath, until you get the hang of in and out. I was taught, always, to synchronize them in and out, but I think, as I always say, you're the only one who knows what's going on, there's no one else judging your practice— it's your practice. So you do what works. As long as eventually you're getting in the habit of how interconnected the in and out are— in terms of… they help each other. |
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Re: tonglenWendy said Apr 25, 2006, 8:48 AM: |
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Hi all, I’m new to zaadz and love this pod group. I have just started doing meditation in my life. I love the books by Pema Chodron and am finding the postings really helpful. Thanks everyone! Wendy |
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My self, my room my companions, my worldluap said Apr 25, 2006, 11:07 AM: |
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I sit, i breathe, i smile I love the whole world
pure intention, relaxed mind, and breathe breathe breathe my friends. ; ) luap |
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Re: tonglen - oopsWendy said Apr 26, 2006, 7:22 AM: |
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http://lojongmindtraining.com/Commentary.aspx?author=3&proverb=7 |
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The Pathless Path and the Law of Mind and ExperienceeBuzz said Jun 10, 2006, 9:49 PM: |
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Enlightenment: The Pathless Path Here are some guidelines You can use that worked for Me in My realization. Some of it might sound familiar and obvious and some of it might sound obscure and tedious. I reiterate that these are some of the principles that I adopted over years of study and practice. Maybe I can save some of You some time and unnecessary “back tracking”. I do not look for any compensation by posting this information here. It is in All of Our best interest to realize Enlightenment. Changing the World is an internal process not an external one. The Law of Mind and Experience Here is a little theory that is based on this phrase: |
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Re: tonglenkate said Jun 15, 2006, 10:16 AM: |
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Pema Chodron is also how I learned about Tonglen. I am very thankful..Kate |
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Re: tonglenTamara said Jun 29, 2006, 4:33 PM: |
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Hi all, Sogyal Rinpoche is how I learned Tonglen. I followed his instructions closely, I had one of the most intense experiences in a gentle way. i absolutely knew that the bodhisattvas were real. This was before I studied much Tibetan Buddhism, and had not heard the term bodhisatva, I called them “lords of compassion” in my mind. I knew right then as i was doing this practise that this is their practise, and doing it makes you at-one with them. And moreso I knew that it was timelessly and eternally so, that they had always been there in my life, and in everyone's life. The magic of Tonglen is that it makes your ego fall away and your heart grow. It is one intense practise. Here's a link tto the part of his book The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying that describes the preparation for and the practise of Tonglen. love, Tamara |
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